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(NA PC) CP pvpers vastly outnumber Non CP-pvpers, Extra Non- CP server makes no sense.

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I play on azuras star all the time on PC NA. I from experience can say that the population on azuras is less than half of the pop on trueflame (maybe even less). We rarely get ques even on weekends or on primetime all the while Trueflame is more packed than a best buy on black friday. The ques on trueflame are MASSIVE, and almost all of the remaining Pvpers play there , and yet they arent given a new campaign. I really dont understand why there would be another non cp campaign when Azuras is not over crowded and seems fine. from the information given to us, this new non cp server seems to be replacing Haderus. this means the Que's on the new trueflame are going to be even worse (its so bad i cant even get my raid there after prime time. Anyways does anyone else feel this is a bad decision? I feel like this isnt really fair to cp -pvpers (the vast majority). I myself am i Non-CP pvper and i still think this simply isnt fair.
  • Durham
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    You are right ...sometimes I just do not think they understand what is going on in their own game... This change does nothing but increase Qs on True flame a 7 day non CP is not needed... Actually a 30 day CP is needed...
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  • Potenza
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    Just say it - what your really concerned about is the non-cp players are going to be more spread out and there will be less players per server.
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    We may not get the crazy queues but Azura's is pop locked Fri to Sun prime time and at least three bars each during weekday prime time. Maybe some guilds will move out of TF with the update? Will just have to see how it shakes out.
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    did you guys know...? cpcampaigns forum drama beats noncp drama by miles and miles. also, bugs/exploits/broken skills/mechanics and build issues beat noncp one by miles, i wonder why... ... ...
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    kuro-dono wrote: »
    did you guys know...? cpcampaigns forum drama beats noncp drama by miles and miles. also, bugs/exploits/broken skills/mechanics and build issues beat noncp one by miles, i wonder why... ... ...

    Tell that to the AZ threads that keep getting closed lol
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  • Balthyzar
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    They are replacing all current campaigns but one with all non cp campaigns. However xbox na will get 2 servers that allow cp. In addition to battlegrounds being non cp, this change will breath new life into pvp. Even if those that can't or just refuse to adapt leave. I'm sure the majority of players "myself included" are looking forward to this change. Cp is really only needed in pve anyway.
    Edited by Balthyzar on May 17, 2017 7:55PM
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  • Prince_of_all_Pugs
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    Potenza wrote: »
    Just say it - what your really concerned about is the non-cp players are going to be more spread out and there will be less players per server.

    i honestly dont really care about that. Next week im gonna do alot of BG's so this doesnt really matter too much to me. Good point though.
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    Balthyzar wrote: »
    They are replacing all current campaigns but one with all non cp campaigns. However xbox na will get 2 servers that allow cp. In addition to battlegrounds being non cp, this change will breath new life into pvp. Even if those that can't or just refuse to adapt leave. I'm sure the majority of players "myself included" are looking forward to this change. Cp is really only needed in pve anyway.

    On PC-NA i logged off for a month, came back and still logged into Cyrodiil (Population never got high enough on Trueflame to kick me) thats a problem....

    I'd be more supportive of no-cp if proc sets and poisons were not so ridiculously OP. 2 weeks or so BG will show how bad this actually is....its the reason i left Azura Star after 2 months of PVP there....that stuff is broken OP without CP, far too strong...and its not fun for that reason.

    If they would actually adjust those things, i'd be all for it. However, until they do...nah...
    Edited by RinaldoGandolphi on May 18, 2017 2:27PM
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  • EdmundTowers
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    My guess is, zos is phasing out cp pvp. The no cp week was a test to see how much cp is the cause of lag in cyro. And since they cant fix the lag caused by the extra cp calculations, they will just remove cp from cyro eventually. Then rebalance all cp nodes for pve.
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  • sirston
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    if you can't play without CP you're not a good player. I believe it's a crutch that needs to be ripped away. and I wonder if they are telling the wholesome truth about if cp made a performance difference.
    Edited by sirston on May 18, 2017 3:06PM
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    My guess is, zos is phasing out cp pvp. The no cp week was a test to see how much cp is the cause of lag in cyro. And since they cant fix the lag caused by the extra cp calculations, they will just remove cp from cyro eventually. Then rebalance all cp nodes for pve.

    Brian said something about they didn't find CP to be the cause of lag though.

    I think @Joy_Division has the exact quote.
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  • Takllin
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    sirston wrote: »
    if you can't play without CP you're not a good player. I believe it's a crutch that needs to be ripped away. and I wonder if they are telling the wholesome truth about if cp made a performance difference.

    What if you can play without CP but can't play with CP? I think the best players can play the game well regardless.
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    sirston wrote: »
    if you can't play without CP you're not a good player. I believe it's a crutch that needs to be ripped away. and I wonder if they are telling the wholesome truth about if cp made a performance difference.

    Player skill is irrelevant. It's not about whether people can play without cp. It's about whether they will play without it. It's about whether they'll get the same enjoyment out of it.
    Balthyzar wrote: »
    They are replacing all current campaigns but one with all non cp campaigns. However xbox na will get 2 servers that allow cp. In addition to battlegrounds being non cp, this change will breath new life into pvp. Even if those that can't or just refuse to adapt leave. I'm sure the majority of players "myself included" are looking forward to this change. Cp is really only needed in pve anyway.

    On PC-NA i logged off for a month, came back and still logged into Cyrodiil (Population never got high enough on Trueflame to kick me) thats a problem....

    I'd be more supportive of no-cp if proc sets and poisons were not so ridiculously OP. 2 weeks or so BG will show how bad this actually is....its the reason i left Azura Star after 2 months of PVP there....that stuff is broken OP without CP, far too strong...and its not fun for that reason.

    If they would actually adjust those things, i'd be all for it. However, until they do...nah...

    That isn't how it works. Whether it puts you back in CyrodiilI is based on the current population when you log in.
    Edited by timidobserver on May 18, 2017 3:17PM
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  • Durham
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    Right now I'm more concerned with playing with my friends who prefer CP campaigns... With this change I'm going to forced to experience Qs... Why? This is a game to me and I enjoy it... I just do not see the logic in this?

    This change does nothing but increase Q's in the CP campaign...
    Edited by Durham on May 18, 2017 3:38PM
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