PvP: Werewolves In Cyrodiil Combat

Averey_Lycan

Greetings,

I am writing on behalf of all the werewolf players on PC EU and possibly on the NA servers.

There is an ongoing issue with the Werewolf form in Cyrodiil:

While in the the form you cant resurrect another player!

Please fix this issue as it is affecting the gameplay in the unfair way.

Many thanks and hope to hear from you soon.

Averey

KeiruNicrom

Cannot rezz allies

Cannot lay down siege but can use them

Cannot use synergies

Devour gets blocked my allies standing near a corpse

Many things ruin pvp for werewolves though honestly i think the siege and rezzing ones may be intentional as a way to balance out the high damage and mobility of WW form. If so ZOS needs to remove the rezz allies interaction while in WW form

Chrlynsch

Issue or feature? It has never been stated offically, needless to say werewolves give up more then they gain.

Averey_Lycan

KeiruNicrom wrote: »

Cannot rezz allies

Cannot lay down siege but can use them

Cannot use synergies

Devour gets blocked my allies standing near a corpse

Agree.

In order to have a differentiation in Cyrodiil and make it more fun to play, this has to be fixed.

Danny231

Yes this is pretty annoying, can you look into this @ZOS_GinaBruno

Averey_Lycan

@ZOS_GinaBruno Please

Averey_Lycan

A new Bug just appeared since Morrowind.

Speed potions no longer work in werewolf form. Same goes for the speed buff from Alliance tree.

Thanks..

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Chrlynsch

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

A new Bug just appeared since Morrowind.

Speed potions no longer work in werewolf form. Same goes for the speed buff from Alliance tree.

Thanks..

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Are you using any other speed sets?

I was using them last night and they seamed to be working just fine.

Averey_Lycan

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

A new Bug just appeared since Morrowind.

Speed potions no longer work in werewolf form. Same goes for the speed buff from Alliance tree.

Thanks..

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Are you using any other speed sets?

I was using them last night and they seamed to be working just fine.

Nope.

Used Immovability potion with one of my friend to test, and the speed buff doesn't increase in Cyrodii as it use to.

Chrlynsch

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

A new Bug just appeared since Morrowind.

Speed potions no longer work in werewolf form. Same goes for the speed buff from Alliance tree.

Thanks..

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Are you using any other speed sets?

I was using them last night and they seamed to be working just fine.

Nope.

Used Immovability potion with one of my friend to test, and the speed buff doesn't increase in Cyrodii as it use to.

Are you using medium armor?

Averey_Lycan

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

A new Bug just appeared since Morrowind.

Speed potions no longer work in werewolf form. Same goes for the speed buff from Alliance tree.

Thanks..

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Are you using any other speed sets?

I was using them last night and they seamed to be working just fine.

Nope.

Used Immovability potion with one of my friend to test, and the speed buff doesn't increase in Cyrodii as it use to.

Are you using medium armor?

Yes

Chrlynsch

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

A new Bug just appeared since Morrowind.

Speed potions no longer work in werewolf form. Same goes for the speed buff from Alliance tree.

Thanks..

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Are you using any other speed sets?

I was using them last night and they seamed to be working just fine.

Nope.

Used Immovability potion with one of my friend to test, and the speed buff doesn't increase in Cyrodii as it use to.

Are you using medium armor?

Yes

They restricted the amout of speed you can have via last patch, you can not stack more 100% of base. Im guessing you are seeing is being at cap before using major expedition. While my wolf uses heavy so he isn't at cap thus he sees speed increase to major expedition potion.

Averey_Lycan

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

A new Bug just appeared since Morrowind.

Speed potions no longer work in werewolf form. Same goes for the speed buff from Alliance tree.

Thanks..

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Are you using any other speed sets?

I was using them last night and they seamed to be working just fine.

Nope.

Used Immovability potion with one of my friend to test, and the speed buff doesn't increase in Cyrodii as it use to.

Are you using medium armor?

Yes

They restricted the amout of speed you can have via last patch, you can not stack more 100% of base. Im guessing you are seeing is being at cap before using major expedition. While my wolf uses heavy so he isn't at cap thus he sees speed increase to major expedition potion.

This is pretty annoying hence you cannot run with the same speed as mounts before.

Chrlynsch

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Averey_Lycan wrote: »

A new Bug just appeared since Morrowind.

Speed potions no longer work in werewolf form. Same goes for the speed buff from Alliance tree.

Thanks..

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Are you using any other speed sets?

I was using them last night and they seamed to be working just fine.

Nope.

Used Immovability potion with one of my friend to test, and the speed buff doesn't increase in Cyrodii as it use to.

Are you using medium armor?

Yes

They restricted the amout of speed you can have via last patch, you can not stack more 100% of base. Im guessing you are seeing is being at cap before using major expedition. While my wolf uses heavy so he isn't at cap thus he sees speed increase to major expedition potion.

This is pretty annoying hence you cannot run with the same speed as mounts before.

Yup, I don't really agree with this change, werewolf speed bonus should be separated from the cap. I werewolf should be able to run down a horse. Though the drawback has always been they use their own stamina to move that speed, and have no natural way of shaking snares.

Now wolves have less of a reason to wear medium armor as they start missing out on passives and benefits.

Vapirko

Prothwata wrote: »

Issue or feature? It has never been stated offically, needless to say werewolves give up more then they gain.

Speak for yourself, I love ww and one well played we form can turn the tide against a stupid zerg and send them running. I love leaping into the middle of a zerg stacked on top of a keep or at a breach and fearing them all. So satisfying.

Averey_Lycan

Vapirko wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Issue or feature? It has never been stated offically, needless to say werewolves give up more then they gain.

Speak for yourself, I love ww and one well played we form can turn the tide against a stupid zerg and send them running. I love leaping into the middle of a zerg stacked on top of a keep or at a breach and fearing them all. So satisfying.

Indeed. However the resent movement speed changes with medium armour really destroys the joy of playing as a werewolf.

Plus the other "features" like resurrection, siege and etc. We as a werewolf guild will be playing more often if these problems will be solved. I mean we are paying for this game, therefore we are expecting from ZOS to fix these issues.

Chrlynsch

Vapirko wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Issue or feature? It has never been stated offically, needless to say werewolves give up more then they gain.

Speak for yourself, I love ww and one well played we form can turn the tide against a stupid zerg and send them running. I love leaping into the middle of a zerg stacked on top of a keep or at a breach and fearing them all. So satisfying.

I will speak for myself, I am a Pack leader (run a Pack of 15+ wolves every Wednesday), I know a few things about werewolf, let me enlighten you.

You give up:
-Ability to mount
-Ability to stealth
-Ability to purge/remove snares/roots without dodging
-Ability to "detect" enemies
-Ability to put down siege
-Ability to resurrect allies
-Half of class passives
-All weapon passives
-An execute
-Ability to gain major armor/spell resistance
-Taking extra damage from fighters guild abilities
-Taking extra poison damage
-Ability to uses class, alliance, other world, armor, and weapon skills
-Cheap skills
-Your main damage skill can be reflected
-Main heal scales off of non primary stat
-Use of any other ultimate in the game
-Ability to activate any synergies except feeding frenzy
-Loss of 5 abilities aka second bar
-No taunt
-No external heal
-No ultimate generation in form

You gain:
-Stamina
-Weapon damage
-5 unique abilities (fear 1 sec cast time, pounce both morphs weaker than crit charge, ambush)
-Speed (negated by new speed cap) Seriously my heavy armor orc with a speed pot can move as fast as a werewolf also with speed pot, they need to make werewolf fastest thing in game
-Armor and Spell resistance (pretty nice)
-Strong light attacks with bleed




So yes, you literally inarguably give up more than you gain. So I guess needless to say needed to be said.

The toolkit that you are given is not by any means weak. A well geared, and skilled player can be absolutely deadly in the right scenarios with Werewolf. A pack of Werewolves can also be terrifying, and able to wipe groups many times their size. But the moment you come across a tight ball group is the moment you realize how ineffective werewolves are at "team" meta competitive play.

Averey_Lycan

Can we have an official answer please to his topic? Is this something ZOS will look at or people can forget focusing on Werewolf builds/guilds.