TEMPLAR's PURGE

me_ming

He is completly wrong.

Sheey wrote: »

I am not the only one how you can read from the poll thinking templar is the definition of cancer.

Yes, you are.

DisgracefulMind

He is completly wrong.

bikerangelo wrote: »

Sheey wrote: »

One got adjusted, the other one is still completly untouched since beta.

Anyone who'd been around since beta would know that this is wrong. Purify received nerfs and adjustments in both TG and DB, and wings have received significant changes as well. Get your facts right.

Second, MagDK and Magtemps are direct counters to each other. This game does not balance around direct counters, and nobody is forcing you to not run with more people in your group who can apply pressure to targets. If anything, you should be embarrased for not being able to kill someone as emp, especially when this meta is all about burst damage and you try to run with DoTs?

Purifying Ritual is fine, you shouldn't be fighting templars with DoTs anyway. Killing a templar spamming heals and purge requires working them down by draining their stamina using hard and soft CC's or even having a nightblade in your group for fear. Even emps need support in groups, and any tank that's built well should be able to survive against a few decent players. It's sad I have to explain this to someone with almost 1000 CP and GO.

So congratulations, you've found a direct counter to your build. Instead of calling for nerfs to one ability (which you obviously don't know how it works), maybe you should run with a group or change your setup.

All this, and not to mention, the deadliest Templars for DKs are ones who wait for you to get frustrated before they bite. I'm okay with this, because a DK forces me to be defensive up until the point I feel I can confidently put tons of pressure on them. All "duels" against any class require you to be careful and calm until the point where you can confidently try a burst.

I'm not the best Templar, far from it, but I've fought some pretty high tier DKs, and they absolutely can burst me down if I'm not meticulous with how I play. Always, when I beat a good DK, it is because I have played absolutely defensive until the time is right. I mean, I don't see why classes having hard counters are a bad thing.

TL;DR - DKs can put huge pressure on Templars and drain their stamina quite quickly, Templars can recover, but have to stay defensive until they possibly have a burst. Doesn't seem unbalanced.

(Also, if you're crying about a full healer spec, idk what to tell you. They're built to be tanky machines and prolly won't kill anything. Also they'll be nerfed quite a bit come Morrowind, so calling to nerf a class' main defense mechanic because of this is ridiculous.)

technohic

Just keep going until there is nothing left of Templars I guess.

Sheey

This man says the truth.

It's sad I have to explain this to someone with almost 1000 CP and GO.

I am not the one jumping from the bridge even if everyone does it. Some have other opinions on threads like this, sadly you can not understand my language. However, sad you can't agree, templars purge is way stronger as healward(sorc) or blocking (dk) or cloak (nb).

Seems like someone is buthurt because I touched to deep into serious issue with my poll.

Ron_Burgundy_79

He is completly wrong.

Sheey wrote: »

It's sad I have to explain this to someone with almost 1000 CP and GO.

I am not the one jumping from the bridge even if everyone does it. Some have other opinions on threads like this, sadly you can not understand my language. However, sad you can't agree, templars purge is way stronger as healward(sorc) or blocking (dk) or cloak (nb).

Seems like someone is buthurt because I touched to deep into serious issue with my poll.

You main a sorc lol. If you want to nerf a class that's OP, go start a nerf sorc thread. You can start with dark deal.

Sheey

This man says the truth.

My mainchar nowadays is my magica dragonknight and not my mag sorc. I never said sorcerer doesn't need any change. But this thread is all about templar, if you wanna talk about sorcerer open your own thread and go ahead.

ChandraNalaar

He is completly wrong.

Sheey wrote: »

My mainchar nowadays is my magica dragonknight and not my mag sorc. I never said sorcerer doesn't need any change. But this thread is all about templar, if you wanna talk about sorcerer open your own thread and go ahead.

Then this whole issue boils down to you not being good enough on a dk to kill a templar. Dks can absolutely kill templars; in fact, every class is capable of killing every other class if you are smart enough with your resources and know how to apply pressure.

Sheey

This man says the truth.

ChandraNalaar wrote: »

Sheey wrote: »

My mainchar nowadays is my magica dragonknight and not my mag sorc. I never said sorcerer doesn't need any change. But this thread is all about templar, if you wanna talk about sorcerer open your own thread and go ahead.

Then this whole issue boils down to you not being good enough on a dk to kill a templar. Dks can absolutely kill templars; in fact, every class is capable of killing every other class if you are smart enough with your resources and know how to apply pressure.

Lol

Ron_Burgundy_79

He is completly wrong.

Sheey wrote: »

My mainchar nowadays is my magica dragonknight and not my mag sorc. I never said sorcerer doesn't need any change. But this thread is all about templar, if you wanna talk about sorcerer open your own thread and go ahead.

We can have this same conversation on magic dks. Our mutual friend @Blobsky runs one of the most OP builds I've seen on his magic dk. I've lost to good magic dks and I've beaten good magic dks on my templar. Most Templars are vamps, thus you get an additional 20% buff to all of your fire damage. Lead off dot rotations with your cheapest dots. I do the same thing with my magplar when fighting other magplars.That should relieve your resource drain.

Your issue is the reactive Malubeth templar that is damn near impossible to kill when played by a competent player. Those sets are overperforming. Malubeth should grant major mending rather than vitality so they can't stack. Reactive needs hit with ZOS's favorite balancing tool, the nerf hammer. 99% of the templar community would sign up for getting those 2 sets nerfed.

Overperforming sets are no reason to nerf class skills.

alexkdd99

He is completly wrong.

Sheey wrote: »

crusnik91 wrote: »

yea nerf templar! a class that have almost zero offensive capabilities shouldn't be able to purge debuffs too!

We are not talking about beeing able to cleanse 'negative effects'. We are talking about damage over time, damage is NOT a negative effect and shouldn't be purgeable/cleansed.

Really? Because in this post here you are saying to remove the skill altogether.

Sheey wrote: »

As Dk you cant damage a templar. Its physically not possible. Purge needs removed and replaced for something else. Alot of dk players will agree on that.

So which is it? Either way the answer is no. And maybe alot of dk only players will agree.
And from results of poll, those who viewed this thread disagree.

All these cries for nerfs are getting old anyways. I think most can agree that the nerf hammer has been used way to much recently.

Psiion

Greetings,

Due to the age of this thread and the fact the information within is quite out of date, we have gone ahead and closed it down. If anyone would like to continue discussion on this subject, please create a new, up to date thread to do so.