Strength of the Automaton set?

Izaki

kaorunandrak wrote: »

It's not "meta" or a proc set and streamers didn't make a build with it so no one uses it. However On my Nord stam DK it is one of the foundations of my 2h set up it's a good set, it also boosts stamina heals as well vigor and rally.

This couldn't be more false. Heals don't deal Physical damage and therefore aren't boosted by Automaton's 5 piece bonus.

Automaton is a very strong set for any setup that has over 85% physical damage in it's kit.

Hunding's gives you more Crit which is more valuable in certain situations (aka in PvE and in vMA).

Ragnarock41

Izaki wrote: »

kaorunandrak wrote: »

It's not "meta" or a proc set and streamers didn't make a build with it so no one uses it. However On my Nord stam DK it is one of the foundations of my 2h set up it's a good set, it also boosts stamina heals as well vigor and rally.

This couldn't be more false. Heals don't deal Physical damage and therefore aren't boosted by Automaton's 5 piece bonus.

Automaton is a very strong set for any setup that has over 85% physical damage in it's kit.

Hunding's gives you more Crit which is more valuable in certain situations (aka in PvE and in vMA).

Don't you love it when people give out false info and just act like they know their [snip].

kaorunandrak

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Izaki wrote: »

kaorunandrak wrote: »

It's not "meta" or a proc set and streamers didn't make a build with it so no one uses it. However On my Nord stam DK it is one of the foundations of my 2h set up it's a good set, it also boosts stamina heals as well vigor and rally.

This couldn't be more false. Heals don't deal Physical damage and therefore aren't boosted by Automaton's 5 piece bonus.

Automaton is a very strong set for any setup that has over 85% physical damage in it's kit.

Hunding's gives you more Crit which is more valuable in certain situations (aka in PvE and in vMA).

Don't you love it when people give out false info and just act like they know their [snip].

Don't you love it when people quote and disparage an almost year old post that was already corrected by some one else almost a year ago when the conversation was actually taking place, just so they can act like their a billy bad ass on a forum?

Æterny

Ahzek wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I use it, but i am a pvp gankblade. The issue with proc sets is they have to proc. Sometimes i'll one shot someone some times it wont fire and i'll die. I hate that rng.

So i am playing onslaught and trying to one shot people. Typically that build uses sword singers as that does more damage but i also want to snipe.

My onslaught hits for 54k (27k vs players) and my focused aim for about 39k (18k).

Your onslaught is weak. For ganking stack health to 80k and use a nirnhoned sword. You'll hit npcs for over 100k in stealth and 50k+ to players.

Id like to see a video if someone hitting 50k onslaught in pvp. To put it bluntly, you are almost certainly lying.

You obviously don't know all ultimate scale off max stat Inc health. Most people easily hit for 50k+ in stealth to npcs just from using a regular build. Given it ignore all armor ratings the damage it does in pvp it's exactly half of what it does in PvE. Using 80k health with plague doctor and something like fasilla it's stupidly easy to hit that figure using 7 heavy and all healthy jewelry. Still has over 3k weapon damage and nirnhoned in this case is superior to sharpened. Sharp us useless for this skill.

I assure you, you can gank a lot harder than 50k. Assuming you don't know NBs hit for near 4x as much when sneaking and using physical attacks either.

Pics or it didnt happen.

A 50k+ PvP hit would be entirely possible, albeit mostly under artificial circumstances. To achieve this "just" do the following:
Go the setup i mentioned in a post above.
Be a khajit/bosmer. (10%sneak dmg)
Get a buddy for spellpower cure and powerful assault. (A bunch of wep dmg)
Get continuous attack. (% wep dmg)
Let your ally blow an aggressive horn. (Major force =15% crit dmg. max stats)
Synergize a storm atro. (Major brutality =25% dmg)
Have a pet DK for minor brutality. (% wep dmg)
Have your buddies apply minor vulnerability to the target. (8% increased mdg taken)
Get stalwart guard from a buddy (8% crit dmg)
Buff up, including empower from magelight.
Hit a no impen, no CP target.

For added 10% damage you can also have your buddy set the target off balance. (Exploiter passive from CP)

And if you want to go even further use bash to kill another (casting) dummy first, for the dmg bonus from the opportunist (you need the kill to reenter sneak quickly).
Maybe we can even get a 100k hit from all those % modifiers.

And on top of that, next patch we can get a 100% dmg buff from vanguards challenge, but sthealth bonus dmg is RIP, and 100% dmg from power sigils in BGs (albeit without CP there).

I might actually be tempted to get a few friends to do this now . . .

Doesn't feel that "GANKY" Feels more like a Gang Bang really