Do vampires count as living dead with eso logic

bloodthirstyvampire

Title said it all

AoDD33pfri3d

They are undead if you remember in skyrim the detect spell would not work with them and if you wanted the cure the priest would say bring life back in this person.

Rosveen

What logic? They're generally considered undead, but I'm not quite sure why you ask.

Cadbury

bloodthirstyvampire

Rosveen wrote: »

What logic? They're generally considered undead, but I'm not quite sure why you ask.

Well the vestige is already undead basically a smart zombie and should lamae bal have killed you

AoDD33pfri3d

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

What logic? They're generally considered undead, but I'm not quite sure why you ask.

Well the vestige is already undead basically a smart zombie and should lamae bal have killed you

The vestige is not a vampire, you can't compare a vampire to the vestige, it just won't work.

LMar

The vestige is basically a "reconstructed" body with the original soul in, kinda (after you get it back). So not really undead. But because of the difference i think both the vampire quest and the werewolf quest mention that you are somehow different and the process works a little bit different on us

Jitterbug

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Title said it all

no it doesnt

KeiruNicrom

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

What logic? They're generally considered undead, but I'm not quite sure why you ask.

Well the vestige is already undead basically a smart zombie and should lamae bal have killed you

I believe the vestige is less of an undead and more of a daedric body with a mortal mind. The soul removed, flesh replaced with azure plasm, and the mind mostly untouched due to the destiny of the vestige. So we are daedra really. And it has been possible in TES games to raise daedric bodies as undead so the idea of a vampire daedra isnt impossible.

starkerealm

AoDD33pfri3d wrote: »

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

What logic? They're generally considered undead, but I'm not quite sure why you ask.

Well the vestige is already undead basically a smart zombie and should lamae bal have killed you

The vestige is not a vampire, you can't compare a vampire to the vestige, it just won't work.

*Logs off from their Vampire Stamblade, and comes into this thread.*

starkerealm

AoDD33pfri3d wrote: »

They are undead if you remember in skyrim the detect spell would not work with them and if you wanted the cure the priest would say bring life back in this person.

They also highlight if you have Expert Hunter slotted.

Cadbury

starkerealm wrote: »

AoDD33pfri3d wrote: »

They are undead if you remember in skyrim the detect spell would not work with them and if you wanted the cure the priest would say bring life back in this person.

They also highlight if you have Expert Hunter slotted.

But they don't start out taking extra damage from them.

I like the idea that the Vestige could be daedric in nature. Maybe that explains why we can resurrect ourselves using soul gems. An interesting concept.

LMar

Cadbury wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

AoDD33pfri3d wrote: »

They are undead if you remember in skyrim the detect spell would not work with them and if you wanted the cure the priest would say bring life back in this person.

They also highlight if you have Expert Hunter slotted.

But they don't start out taking extra damage from them.

I like the idea that the Vestige could be daedric in nature. Maybe that explains why we can resurrect ourselves using soul gems. An interesting concept.

Someone didn't read the in-game books it seems :P :P

Here is something that will help you understand this process in more detail

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Chaotic_Creatia:_The_Azure_Plasm

specifically

"Then there are the poor slaves known as the Soul Shriven. Each is a mortal kidnapped from Mundus at the moment of death, his or her soul stolen by Molag Bal for some unthinkable purpose, and given in exchange the vestige that enables him or her to form a counterfeit body here in Coldharbour. But they are not native to Oblivion, so a Soul Shriven's body is a sad imitation of the body worn in life, suffering rapid wear and decay until it dies—a death that is no liberation, for its vestige only forms a body once again, over and over, ad infinitum.."

"theory is that the Soul Shriven's bodies are flawed because they have lost the focusing principle of their Anuic souls, so their vestiges are imperfect patterns. I concurred that this was likely, and then proposed the theoretical possibility of a Soul Shriven who, despite having lost his or her soul, possessed some other intrinsic Anuic aspect. This shall-we-say "paragon" Soul Shriven would form an unflawed body in Coldharbour that was a perfect duplicate of the body worn in Mundus. In fact, if this paragon bore a sufficiently high Anuic valence, upon contact with Padomaic creatia its body would form almost instantaneously.
The Sojourner scoffed at my theory, but seemed taken with the idea nonetheless. He went on to speculate that if such a thing were possible, it would probably occur in a situation where the Mundus was in existential jeopardy. In that case the Heart of Nirn would spontaneously generate such "paragon" individuals as a way of defending itself from destruction, in a manner analogous to the way the mortal body fights off infection."

So yes, we are a Paragon Soul Shriven ready to fight for Nirn !!