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Burning Spellweave
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Burning Spellweave: Decreased the proc chance to 15% from 20%, and decreased the Spell Damage bonus to 525 from 600.
Still OP doe. Keep this up zos and stamina toons might be able to dps a trial next year.
Edited by Shadzilla on May 8, 2017 9:34PM Still OP doe. Keep this up zos and stamina toons might be able to dps a trial next year.
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✭✭✭✭rotaugen454 wrote: »Waiting for all the "BSW is USELESS now!" replies.
Probably not exactly this but a lot of "the gap between necro and bsw has become bigger, magsorc so much more OP now." and stuff.2 -
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✭rotaugen454 wrote: »Waiting for all the "BSW is USELESS now!" replies.
Yea the QQ`s on this one will be plentiful, considering 90% of this games dps players are magicka.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Wrobels not going to nerf his favorite pajamas any further then that . Well , he might add a .2% timer in between procs ...2 -
xmaveri✭✭✭Great they reduced the proc for the sorc frags. Increased dark exchange cast time smh the build I worked so hard for is going to the dumps..0 -
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✭✭Great they reduced the proc for the sorc frags. Increased dark exchange cast time smh the build I worked so hard for is going to the dumps..
The 0.2 sec increase in cast time will affect you that much? If you pop immovable potion before casting, it gives you 15 seconds to spam it without getting knocked down.
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But, multiply that times the number of times it will be cast by all players combined over the next year and it's a huge number!IcyDeadPeople wrote: »Great they reduced the proc for the sorc frags. Increased dark exchange cast time smh the build I worked so hard for is going to the dumps..
The 0.2 sec increase in cast time will affect you that much? If you pop immovable potion before casting, it gives you 15 seconds to spam it without getting knocked down.
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✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
By having to settle for a 20 Karat Gold Trophy instead of a 24 Karat one?"We're all born under the same sky and on the same earth. Therefore, we all deserve the same amount of respect."
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✭✭✭✭✭You'll find plenty of angry people that don't understand how this stuff adds up. BSW has always been too strong.
Important note: Burning Spellweave is still BiS. Nothing changed! All that happened was a miniscule nerf to Magicka that indirectly brings up Stamina a tiny bit as a result.
The only set that beats it is Necropotence, which requires a pet. Magicka Warden (worst DPS) benefits from Necropotence. Magicka NB (2nd worst DPS) also can benefit from Necropotence.
However, Magicka Sorcs also benefit and they are the #1 DPS by a lot. This isn't because of Necropotence though or else Mag Warden/NB woud be OP..... it is because Mag Sorc is well above the other classes.
Volatile Familiar needs to have less pulses and those pulses need to deal less damage too.
The cries to nerf Necropotence would hurt Magicka Warden the most, which is currently the absolute worst DPS class.Edited by Vaoh on May 8, 2017 9:39PM3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭You'll find plenty of angry people that don't understand how this stuff adds up. BSW has always been too strong.
Important note: Burning Spellweave is still BiS. Nothing changed! All that happened was a miniscule nerf to Magicka that indirectly brings up Stamina a tiny bit as a result.
The only set that beats it is Necropotence, which requires a pet. Magicka Warden (worst DPS) benefits from Necropotence. Magicka NB (2nd worst DPS) also can benefit from Necropotence.
However, Magicka Sorcs also benefit and they are the #1 DPS by a lot. This isn't because of Necropotence though or else Mag Warden/NB woud be OP..... it is because Mag Sorc is well above the other classes.
Volatile Familiar needs to have less pulses and those pulses need to deal less damage too.
The cries to nerf Necropotence would hurt Magicka Warden the most, which is currently the absolute worst DPS class.
What about Scathing Mage for the MagBlade? How will that compare with BSW now?Edited by Tryxus on May 8, 2017 9:43PM"We're all born under the same sky and on the same earth. Therefore, we all deserve the same amount of respect."
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✭✭✭✭IcyDeadPeople wrote: »Great they reduced the proc for the sorc frags. Increased dark exchange cast time smh the build I worked so hard for is going to the dumps..
The 0.2 sec increase in cast time will affect you that much? If you pop immovable potion before casting, it gives you 15 seconds to spam it without getting knocked down.
Will immovable save you from an interrupt?0 -
Kihamai✭✭✭✭You'll find plenty of angry people that don't understand how this stuff adds up. BSW has always been too strong.
Important note: Burning Spellweave is still BiS. Nothing changed! All that happened was a miniscule nerf to Magicka that indirectly brings up Stamina a tiny bit as a result.
The only set that beats it is Necropotence, which requires a pet. Magicka Warden (worst DPS) benefits from Necropotence. Magicka NB (2nd worst DPS) also can benefit from Necropotence.
However, Magicka Sorcs also benefit and they are the #1 DPS by a lot. This isn't because of Necropotence though or else Mag Warden/NB woud be OP..... it is because Mag Sorc is well above the other classes.
Volatile Familiar needs to have less pulses and those pulses need to deal less damage too.
The cries to nerf Necropotence would hurt Magicka Warden the most, which is currently the absolute worst DPS class.
What about Scathing Mage for the MagBlade? How will that compare with BSW now?
Last I tested on my magblade (a week ago), I was getting around 50-55% uptime on it. It seems broken, so I think BSW will still be better.pc na | trash tier0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭IcyDeadPeople wrote: »Great they reduced the proc for the sorc frags. Increased dark exchange cast time smh the build I worked so hard for is going to the dumps..
The 0.2 sec increase in cast time will affect you that much? If you pop immovable potion before casting, it gives you 15 seconds to spam it without getting knocked down.
Will immovable save you from an interrupt?
@Minalan no it wont.
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✭✭✭✭✭Well...people do always complain the game isnt hard enough. ZOS is just addressing this by making everyone weaker.
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Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You'll find plenty of angry people that don't understand how this stuff adds up. BSW has always been too strong.
Important note: Burning Spellweave is still BiS. Nothing changed! All that happened was a miniscule nerf to Magicka that indirectly brings up Stamina a tiny bit as a result.
The only set that beats it is Necropotence, which requires a pet. Magicka Warden (worst DPS) benefits from Necropotence. Magicka NB (2nd worst DPS) also can benefit from Necropotence.
However, Magicka Sorcs also benefit and they are the #1 DPS by a lot. This isn't because of Necropotence though or else Mag Warden/NB woud be OP..... it is because Mag Sorc is well above the other classes.
Volatile Familiar needs to have less pulses and those pulses need to deal less damage too.
The cries to nerf Necropotence would hurt Magicka Warden the most, which is currently the absolute worst DPS class.
What about Scathing Mage for the MagBlade? How will that compare with BSW now?
It might be better. They'll certainly be almost identical.
Hard to tell exactly because of the sustain changes.
If you want more damage, it'll come from Grim Focus auto-recasting when you fire off a proc, not from a set buff or a minor Twisting Path buff.
Best advice I can give -> switch to Mag Sorc and put out way more damage
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✭You'll find plenty of angry people that don't understand how this stuff adds up. BSW has always been too strong.
Important note: Burning Spellweave is still BiS. Nothing changed! All that happened was a miniscule nerf to Magicka that indirectly brings up Stamina a tiny bit as a result.
The only set that beats it is Necropotence, which requires a pet. Magicka Warden (worst DPS) benefits from Necropotence. Magicka NB (2nd worst DPS) also can benefit from Necropotence.
However, Magicka Sorcs also benefit and they are the #1 DPS by a lot. This isn't because of Necropotence though or else Mag Warden/NB woud be OP..... it is because Mag Sorc is well above the other classes.
Volatile Familiar needs to have less pulses and those pulses need to deal less damage too.
The cries to nerf Necropotence would hurt Magicka Warden the most, which is currently the absolute worst DPS class.
What about Scathing Mage for the MagBlade? How will that compare with BSW now?
it will be better than BSW on MagBlade (20% proc chance for 516 SD increase)0 -
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✭✭✭✭IcyDeadPeople wrote: »Great they reduced the proc for the sorc frags. Increased dark exchange cast time smh the build I worked so hard for is going to the dumps..
The 0.2 sec increase in cast time will affect you that much? If you pop immovable potion before casting, it gives you 15 seconds to spam it without getting knocked down.
Will immovable save you from an interrupt?
@Minalan no it wont.
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✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »You'll find plenty of angry people that don't understand how this stuff adds up. BSW has always been too strong.
Important note: Burning Spellweave is still BiS. Nothing changed! All that happened was a miniscule nerf to Magicka that indirectly brings up Stamina a tiny bit as a result.
The only set that beats it is Necropotence, which requires a pet. Magicka Warden (worst DPS) benefits from Necropotence. Magicka NB (2nd worst DPS) also can benefit from Necropotence.
However, Magicka Sorcs also benefit and they are the #1 DPS by a lot. This isn't because of Necropotence though or else Mag Warden/NB woud be OP..... it is because Mag Sorc is well above the other classes.
Volatile Familiar needs to have less pulses and those pulses need to deal less damage too.
The cries to nerf Necropotence would hurt Magicka Warden the most, which is currently the absolute worst DPS class.
What about Scathing Mage for the MagBlade? How will that compare with BSW now?
it will be better than BSW on MagBlade (20% proc chance for 516 SD increase)
Scathing is better in AOE/cleave.0 -
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I've just deconstructed 2 full sets of legendary BSW. Got 3 waxes and a temper. I will sell them for massive extra profit once Morrowind drops.
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Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭If they nerf everything, it's all worse but relatively better right? So BSW actually got a buff (as long as you heavy attack with an inferno staff).0
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This helps with getting crafting closer to bis and salves the rash from dungeon grinding sets.
Looks like another Julianos/bsw comparison for myself on the dummy to see how this shakes out after morrowind.Fear is the Mindkiller0 -
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✭NordSwordnBoard wrote: »Membah me? - Julianos
This helps with getting crafting closer to bis and salves the rash from dungeon grinding sets.
Looks like another Julianos/bsw comparison for myself on the dummy to see how this shakes out after morrowind.
BSW will still be BIS.0
