PVP - Most OP class

vpy

Mates,

Which class do you think performs the best ...almost too good for itself... in PVP content ?
The sole objective of this is to show our fave game company ZOS about our opinions and hopefully they will understand our perceptions of imbalance in PVP.

Runschei

Gank them all

FoulSnowpaw

Magicka Sorcerer

Look at Sorc actives and passives and compare to the other classes.

WhiteMage

No one class is overpowered, but some specs really outperform others. What I'm basically saying is heavy armor throws a wrench into everything.

smokey13a

Magicka Sorcerer

magsorc, they shield stack so can take loads of damage, they can hit like trucks and when paired with lich basically have unlimited regen(which wont change with the morrowind update, #ZosLogic). I've seen all others classes do the same type of thing but not quite as good as magsorc's and the other classes like that are no where near as common, I mean I saw a zerg yesterday with like 8 out of every 10(it was a 45+ zerg) people using them, frankly they are the only build that really needs nerfing.......and yet its the only class that's barely going to be effected(compared to the other classes) after all the changes

Emma_Overload

Stamina Nightblade

Stamblades are still OP, just like they have been for over a year. Viper, Velidreth, Incap Strike, Surprise Attack all out of stealth wipes any Sorcs shield and drains your Health bar to zero in ONE second.

pattyLtd

Another nerf sorc thread in disguise.
Honestly it's getting pathetic by now.

Brrrofski

Magicka Sorcerer

Mag sorc hangs with heavy armor with no problem.

I play a sorc (I play everything) so I'm not crying for a nerf.

Stam DK is not far behind (their problem is they work great in heavy).

Dreepa

Hybrids

Hybrids will destroy the game game, zomfg, so OP, all will quit ESO!!!111111eleven

Tommy_The_Gun

Magicka Sorcerer

The problem with mag sorcerer is simple:

If you go full DPS build technically you should be sort of a glass cannon (Ultra high dmg but not that good defence). But with sorcerer it is a different story. If you go full dps and you have only like 10K health... you can still use "Conjured Ward" (stack-able shield) So it adds like 20 - 25K DMG shield to your health bar. This shield is not affected by penetration and crits. This mean that in order to kill a sorcerer you need to deal at lest 25K "true" dmg (with no crits and penetration) fast enough to even "reach" the health bar. You have to do it fast enough so your enemy will not have a chance to "stack" more shield.
So you focus on destroying that shield while sorcerer throws "Haunting Curse" at you (un-dodge-able, un-block-able instant that explodes twice on you and even pulls you out of stealth 2x (even thou there is nothing like that in skill description).

And in the end when you finally managed to get rid of that shield and started doing dmg to health bar what does the sorcerer do ? Either stuns you with Streak & kills you or just escapes faster than sprinting mount....
# Balance

Kay1

Magicka Sorcerer

I said Magsorc but tbh they are not OP, I mean yeah all the small things things they have make them OP for some fights like per example in large scale or dueling but besides those modes they suck, I mean you can solo or small-scale with a MagSorc but you have to be very good at it and it's rewarding.

A little nerf to Velocious Curse will be enough I really hope they don't touch their shields because if they do they will just be trash.

Bam_Bam

Magicka Sorcerer

mag sorc for real

Prydalol

nothing has changed it seems

Qbiken

I believe no specific class is uber powered.

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Stamblades are still OP, just like they have been for over a year. Viper, Velidreth, Incap Strike, Surprise Attack all out of stealth wipes any Sorcs shield and drains your Health bar to zero in ONE second.

Are you sure you aren´t just mad at certain sets??? Because incap and surprise attack ain´t overpowered skills.

Shianna

Magicka Sorcerer

sorcs wins the race...no surprise..
just played a couple of BGs and in the capture the flag bg a sorc solocapped a flag while beeing pounded on by 2 DDs just with shieldstacking and immovable pots...this cant be possible
morrowind gonna be fun

Kay1

Magicka Sorcerer

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Stamblades are still OP, just like they have been for over a year. Viper, Velidreth, Incap Strike, Surprise Attack all out of stealth wipes any Sorcs shield and drains your Health bar to zero in ONE second.

Hahahahahahahhahahahhaahahahahahhaha, what I just read.

Blame proc sets not the Shitblades.

Banzai406

Funny how everyone always cries about shields but don't spec there character to penetrate them there's cp you can invest and of course shields breaker but keep crying so the rest of the game gets nerfed into the ground

Voxicity

Magicka Nightblade

Insane snare from lotus fan + destro ult + sap essence + proxy det + 15 other identical magblades ripping at the same time = RIP on stamina characters

MurderMostFoul

Magicka Sorcerer

MagSorc:

Best available combination of damage, mitigation, and sustain. They're not god-mode, but imba for sure.

PS:

Gotta love my main - StamPlar - currently sitting at zero votes!

Voxicity

Magicka Nightblade

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Stamblades are still OP, just like they have been for over a year. Viper, Velidreth, Incap Strike, Surprise Attack all out of stealth wipes any Sorcs shield and drains your Health bar to zero in ONE second.

Abilities have a global cooldown of 1 second so it's not possible to hit with incap strike AND surprise attack within 1 second, even if you animation cancel the incap. A heavy attack instead of incap though with surprise attack and those procs can hit in 1 second.

I know it's nit picking but just clarifying it.

GreenSoup2HoT

Stamina Nightblade

I say stamina nb just because ganking will always be strong. However if the poll had an option to for "anyone who slots eots" i would of picked that.

I for sure think Sorc's are over the top in the current meta for pvp only because of Dark Deal. Everyone else has sustain issues but Sorcs with this skill do not. This is why they are the top meta pick for pvp and even pve.

Banzai406 wrote: »

Funny how everyone always cries about shields but don't spec there character to penetrate them there's cp you can invest and of course shields breaker but keep crying so the rest of the game gets nerfed into the ground

The only issue with building cp/sets just to kill Sorcs is that its a lot to invest just for shields. There are tons of stamina users where you get no value. Thats why things like Viper and other proc sets are highly saute out for because they are good against all opponents.

I think the forums are more so crying about how Sorcs still get unlimited sustain due to Dark Deal when every other class has to build for some kind of sustain now in Morrowwind. Killing a sorc on my nightblade isnt all that hard, its just rather annoying since some players just continuously shield stack and dont even attempt to kill you.

Dracindo

Stamina Nightblade

Or at least it should be. Stamblade deserves it.

JamieAubrey

Magicka Sorcerer

MagSorc but come against me and 9/10 its an easy win,

9/10 I die from Macro users, that can hit me with all skills at once before I even pop a 2nd shield

technohic

Magicka Sorcerer

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

MagSorc:

Best available combination of damage, mitigation, and sustain. They're not god-mode, but imba for sure.

PS:

Gotta love my main - StamPlar - currently sitting at zero votes!

It's still early. Been loving my Stamplar though I don't know where I would rate it. POTL may be the last powerful stamplar ability when major mending is whacked.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

I believe no specific class is uber powered.

Yawn ... smart PLAYERS can be overpowered but all of the CLASSES are more balanced now than ever. If you're tired of "imbalance" then look in the mirror and fix your build.

I have 50k magic on a Templar with near max resists and 27k health (in Cyrodiil). Just get creative and stop worrying about the cool toys everyone else has. You have plenty of ways to break the game as well.

Universe

I believe no specific class is uber powered.

No class is OP.
The skill, the gear & cp allocation of the player are the factors which contribute...

Magicka Sorcerer is not OP, I don't get it why so many believe in that.
Any predetermined votes ? Are most of the votes coming from the OP's guild ?

GrigorijMalahevich

To quickly kill stuff and wait for next target - NB
To be killer in every 1x1 encounter - DK
To be mobile and strong, overall best open world class - Sorc
To be annoying - Templar

THEDKEXPERIENCE

I believe no specific class is uber powered.

Lord wrote: »

No class is OP.
The skill, the gear & cp allocation of the player are the factors which contribute...

Magicka Sorcerer is not OP, I don't get it why so many believe in that.
Any predetermined votes ? Are most of the votes coming from the OP's guild ?

I've faced roughly a billion mag sorcs in Cyrodiil. They are not overpowered. If anything stam sorcs used to be, but the hurricane nerf fixed them. I wonder how many people who complain about mag sorc shields don't understand that there are plenty of shields available to every other class as well. My Harness Magicka, on a Templar mind you, has a tool tip of 19k+.

Takes-No-Prisoner

Magicka Nightblade

MagBlade, but primarily for their ability to zerg bust large groups. MagSorc, because Negating large groups.

For everything else, THEDKEXPERIENCE said it best;

Yawn ... smart PLAYERS can be overpowered but all of the CLASSES are more balanced now than ever. If you're tired of "imbalance" then look in the mirror and fix your build.

Kodrac

Is this fishing for the next FotM?

KingJ

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Stamblades are still OP, just like they have been for over a year. Viper, Velidreth, Incap Strike, Surprise Attack all out of stealth wipes any Sorcs shield and drains your Health bar to zero in ONE second.

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Stamblades are still OP, just like they have been for over a year. Viper, Velidreth, Incap Strike, Surprise Attack all out of stealth wipes any Sorcs shield and drains your Health bar to zero in ONE second.

@Emma_Overload sound like your problem is with proc sets not StamBlades.Proc sets are your issue not NB.