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Craglorn Welwa is way too tiny.

Dayth
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It's smaller than a dog. The Senche-Tiger pets are a reasonable size, can you not alter size of the Welwa to make it bigger?

“'Cute'? What use have I for 'cute'? I am Undaunted—give me a monster!"
Said the guy who apparently still wanted a monster short enough to not nibble on his knees.


EDIT: Some size comparisons

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Significantly smaller than a dog, bit bigger than a fennec fox.

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A rat on steroids beside a Welwa in Craglorn.
Edited by Dayth on May 5, 2017 10:33PM
  • Incognitius
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    Does it have any animations? When looking in the crown store preview it just... breathes.
  • max_only
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    It's WAY TOO small

    It's tiny!

    I was JUST about to make a thread about this. This is a disappointing welwa to be sure... just scale it to freckled guar size please and thanks.

    Also yes it has animations, it scratches it's belly with its hind leg and it lays down while waiting, oh and it shakes its head.
    Edited by max_only on May 4, 2017 11:00PM
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  • Mattock_Romulus
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    It's not the size of your Welwa, but what you do with it that matters.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    It's not the size of your Welwa, but what you do with it that matters.

    It's a non combat pet so it's tiny and impotent .
  • Dayth
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    max_only wrote: »
    It's WAY TOO small

    It's tiny!

    I was JUST about to make a thread about this. This is a disappointing welwa to be sure... just scale it to freckled guar size please and thanks.

    Also yes it has animations, it scratches it's belly with its hind leg and it lays down while waiting, oh and it shakes its head.

    Thank you! I'm glad someone agrees with me on this. It's even smaller than a pig, I don't get why they made it so small, they never advertised it as being a cub or anything.
    I doubt they'll ever fix the size of it, once something is in the store they'll never touch it again, I really hope with do though.
    Edited by Dayth on May 5, 2017 12:49AM
  • max_only
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    I don't want to be that person that spams the @ names of Zos employees....
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  • Keldheir
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    Maybe it's just a pup.
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  • Palindiil
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    Anyone got a screenshot of just how small it is?
  • Dayth
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    Palindiil wrote: »
    Anyone got a screenshot of just how small it is?

    Here's a comparison to some other pets:

    njpRYwG.png

    Significantly smaller than a dog, bit bigger than a fennec fox.
    Keldheir wrote: »
    Maybe it's just a pup.

    They make no mention of it being a pup in the description of the pet or in the Crown Store Showcase, they just made it super small.

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    It's the Nix Hound all over again...
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  • Palindiil
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    Dayth wrote: »
    Palindiil wrote: »
    Anyone got a screenshot of just how small it is?

    Here's a comparison to some other pets:

    njpRYwG.png

    Significantly smaller than a dog, bit bigger than a fennec fox.
    Keldheir wrote: »
    Maybe it's just a pup.

    They make no mention of it being a pup in the description of the pet or in the Crown Store Showcase, they just made it super small.

    Hmmmm. I was quite excited about it, considering not getting it now...
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    I wasn't being serious, actually. It's just what I would have tried to make me believe. I considered buying it at first because it's kind of grotesque looking and that's my thing. But I have no use for pets and then I luckily saw this post about the size. It's laughable.
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  • Dayth
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    Keldheir wrote: »
    I wasn't being serious, actually. It's just what I would have tried to make me believe. I considered buying it at first because it's kind of grotesque looking and that's my thing. But I have no use for pets and then I luckily saw this post about the size. It's laughable.

    Quit laughing, man. I have a grotesque rat on steroids for a pet, this is serious business.

    Palindiil wrote: »
    Hmmmm. I was quite excited about it, considering not getting it now...

    I was pretty excited when they announced it too, I was hoping they'd give us a welwa pet for a while but yeah...got a buff rat instead.
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    Its been nerfed. It shouldnt be a surpise
  • OlafdieWaldfee
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    It is adorably ugly. I love it!
    And it also has a "gnaws on a bone"-animation. And the "scratches its belly"-animation is great.
    I don´t regret buying it at all. :) Very cute.
  • Thannazzar
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    It's not the size of your Welwa, but what you do with it that matters.

    Who ever you heard that from, she lied!
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    It is adorably ugly. I love it!
    And it also has a "gnaws on a bone"-animation. And the "scratches its belly"-animation is great.
    I don´t regret buying it at all. :) Very cute.

    Absolutely agree, lies down and everything. Plus I like the bulky feeling, I don't mind that it's not larger, it reminds me a little of a bulldog.
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  • Dayth
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    Rouven wrote: »
    Absolutely agree, lies down and everything. Plus I like the bulky feeling, I don't mind that it's not larger, it reminds me a little of a bulldog.

    I agree with the animations being nice and all that but it's called a Craglorn Welwa, it's not supposed to be a bulldog. Here's an informative side-by-side comparison of an actual Welwa from Craglorn and the pet.

    XRECyUi.jpg
  • esp1992
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    Maybe... its has some dwarfism disorder
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  • Mattock_Romulus
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    esp1992 wrote: »
    Maybe... its has some dwarfism disorder
    :/

    Or, it's just a baby
  • Incognitius
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    It is adorably ugly. I love it!
    And it also has a "gnaws on a bone"-animation. And the "scratches its belly"-animation is great.
    I don´t regret buying it at all. :) Very cute.

    Have to agree. After hearing the animations described I had to buy it, and by gosh it's so cute! xD
  • Mattock_Romulus
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    It is adorably ugly. I love it!
    And it also has a "gnaws on a bone"-animation. And the "scratches its belly"-animation is great.
    I don´t regret buying it at all. :) Very cute.

    Have to agree. After hearing the animations described I had to buy it, and by gosh it's so cute! xD

    The animations are very nice. Also, no annoying sounds or repetitive movements either. Plus, the eyes blink. I'm a big fan of mounts and pets that actually blink.
  • Rouven
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    It is adorably ugly. I love it!
    And it also has a "gnaws on a bone"-animation. And the "scratches its belly"-animation is great.
    I don´t regret buying it at all. :) Very cute.

    Have to agree. After hearing the animations described I had to buy it, and by gosh it's so cute! xD

    The animations are very nice. Also, no annoying sounds or repetitive movements either. Plus, the eyes blink. I'm a big fan of mounts and pets that actually blink.

    There could be a little more slobber when he's panting. :)

    @Dayth
    Great comparison to the real Welwa size, maybe we can get pet food to grow our pets ... 1 portion per day >:)
    I probably wouldn't want the real size but I'd agree a tad bigger would be nice.
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    Dayth wrote: »
    Craglorn Welwa is way too tiny.
    So it is.
    The developers -told- them not to wash them too hot, but did they listen? No, they were all "eugh, it stinks of orc feet" and plopped them right into the hot bath, where they shrank like a wool pullover. So there you have it. The secret behind the amazingly miniature welva. :p;)

    On a more serious note...

    ...I always though the fact that we have welva in craglorn and not overrunning bangkorai as well might indicate that welva are usually not that big after all, but this is a special craglorn breed. Possibly even an unnaturally large one. As such I would not be all that bothered by a non-combat pet being much smaller...


    Note on the sidelines - how about a "combat welva" skin for the upcoming wardens bear summons?
  • Dayth
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    esp1992 wrote: »
    Maybe... its has some dwarfism disorder
    :/

    Or, it's just a baby

    If it was a baby it would be called Welwa cub or pup or something. Gonna use the Senche Panther as an example:

    Black-Senche-Panther-Kitten-Front.jpg
    Senche-Panther Kitten

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    Dayth wrote: »
    Craglorn Welwa is way too tiny.
    So it is.

    ...I always though the fact that we have welva in craglorn and not overrunning bangkorai as well might indicate that welva are usually not that big after all, but this is a special craglorn breed. Possibly even an unnaturally large one. As such I would not be all that bothered by a non-combat pet being much smaller...

    Even if the Craglorn breed was freakishly large for a Welwa, the pet is called Craglorn Welwa. I don't think think a Welwa would naturally stop growing to such a small size; assuming the Welwa in Craglorn are the same creatures the Aldmer encountered Welwas and they're tapestries show them as "strange, holy beasts of horns and savage teeth, depicted as ravagers and saviors of the land".

    This Welwa pet could ravage your shins I suppose...
    Edited by Dayth on May 7, 2017 11:29PM
  • Thannazzar
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    Dayths earlier post of 5 may summarises the issue perfectly.
    Edited by Thannazzar on May 9, 2017 3:22PM
  • max_only
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Ugh, I hate tagging Zos in these kinds of things but I'd think a re-write of the item description is in order, or a change to the model scale.
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  • FoolishLittleMortal
    It may not be as big as we expected. And I hope maybe we get a bigger version sometime. Or maybe even a mount. But darn it, I love my tiny Welwa. It's super adorable! c:
  • esp1992
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    So ugly... it's cute!
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  • dovakiin5574
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    Its possible that the Iron Orcs stole welwa cubs in order to keep them "tame" and perhaps being kept that way stopped them from growing as large as wild welwas
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