Help With Vet Ruin's Of Mazzatun

Kilavkid

I've been trying to farm for A Heavy Mighty Chudun Helmet for about 3 days, I have yet to see a group manage to kill this boss with the public finder.
Is there a specific trick to this boss or am I just bad?
Any tips or advice is apprenticed

DHale

You must get the totems down within a few seconds tons of dots I save my ult for the totems. Use the shiny golden bosses as rest periods to get back resources.

Kilavkid

So far none of the groups I have rolled with have been able to kill the chudan boss, I haven't even got to final boss

DRXHarbinger

Kilavkid wrote: »

So far none of the groups I have rolled with have been able to kill the chudan boss, I haven't even got to final boss

Explain the mechanics to them. Tank needs to use wings on Chudan it reflects back for over 100k damage with that spit attack it does. People with the circle need to stand in between the boss and the shield guy and wait for both circles to meet and dodge when it charges and it takes out the shield guy.

Magdalina

Join a guild or try to find people in the forums, you'll want someone who has done it before. In all honesty, Chudan is the easiest boss in that dungeon(not counting the first guy, he's barely a boss). All you need is for the person who gets moving aoe at their feet to stand between the boss and the caster(the shiny lightning globe) and for the tank to use some kind of reflect for the poison spit(although unlike her amber shade in hm, normal Chudan doesn't actually hit that hard and is possible to survive without reflect, assuming you have either strong self heals or strong shields). Also no one but tank should ever be in front of the boss - her frontal head sweep is a conal aoe and you do not want to get hit by that, just attack her butt

The key to this whole dungeon is teamwork, if you're legit struggling on Chudan(I have wiped there a few times even with good teams due to lag/bad luck/bugs/potato moments but to be unable to pass her at all means something is very wrong) chances are you'll have even more difficulties tackling the following bosses. Good luck. It's a really fun dungeon, just need a proper team for it

Kilavkid

Magdalina wrote: »

Join a guild or try to find people in the forums, you'll want someone who has done it before. In all honesty, Chudan is the easiest boss in that dungeon(not counting the first guy, he's barely a boss). All you need is for the person who gets moving aoe at their feet to stand between the boss and the caster(the shiny lightning globe) and for the tank to use some kind of reflect for the poison spit(although unlike her amber shade in hm, normal Chudan doesn't actually hit that hard and is possible to survive without reflect, assuming you have either strong self heals or strong shields). Also no one but tank should ever be in front of the boss - her frontal head sweep is a conal aoe and you do not want to get hit by that, just attack her butt

The key to this whole dungeon is teamwork, if you're legit struggling on Chudan(I have wiped there a few times even with good teams due to lag/bad luck/bugs/potato moments but to be unable to pass her at all means something is very wrong) chances are you'll have even more difficulties tackling the following bosses. Good luck. It's a really fun dungeon, just need a proper team for it

thanks for the info I might go join a guild, used to play the game before imperial city was released and haven't gotten back into guilds yet, otherwise thanks for the tactics going to go put them to use

Magdalina

Kilavkid wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

Join a guild or try to find people in the forums, you'll want someone who has done it before. In all honesty, Chudan is the easiest boss in that dungeon(not counting the first guy, he's barely a boss). All you need is for the person who gets moving aoe at their feet to stand between the boss and the caster(the shiny lightning globe) and for the tank to use some kind of reflect for the poison spit(although unlike her amber shade in hm, normal Chudan doesn't actually hit that hard and is possible to survive without reflect, assuming you have either strong self heals or strong shields). Also no one but tank should ever be in front of the boss - her frontal head sweep is a conal aoe and you do not want to get hit by that, just attack her butt

The key to this whole dungeon is teamwork, if you're legit struggling on Chudan(I have wiped there a few times even with good teams due to lag/bad luck/bugs/potato moments but to be unable to pass her at all means something is very wrong) chances are you'll have even more difficulties tackling the following bosses. Good luck. It's a really fun dungeon, just need a proper team for it

thanks for the info I might go join a guild, used to play the game before imperial city was released and haven't gotten back into guilds yet, otherwise thanks for the tactics going to go put them to use

What server/platform are you on?

And welcome, I love ROM, always ready to share more insight on it

Kilavkid

I am on PC, NA
sorry for late response power went down in my house for about 12 hours

Magdalina

Oh wow, sorry about the outage. I can run with you some time if you like, I main pc na as well, any role.

Btw, while the dungeon is fun and the motif is awesome, the helm is imo not worth it. Do keep in mind it won't stack with other Major armor buff(s) so say if you're a sorc using Lightning Form or templar using Rune or DK using spikey thing or whatever, it'll overwrite the helm's buff.

Kilavkid

Magdalina wrote: »

Oh wow, sorry about the outage. I can run with you some time if you like, I main pc na as well, any role.

Btw, while the dungeon is fun and the motif is awesome, the helm is imo not worth it. Do keep in mind it won't stack with other Major armor buff(s) so say if you're a sorc using Lightning Form or templar using Rune or DK using spikey thing or whatever, it'll overwrite the helm's buff.

I am aware of that, I have a dk thats stamina based and I have little to no magic, casting Hardened armor takes about 1/3 of my magic, I am mainly getting it to free a slot for something more useful
My IGN is @Kilavkid

OldGamerESO

I have had the worst luck in running random vets and getting this dungeon all the time. I never leave a dungeon as long as the group continues to try, but this one pushes me to my limit. I only queue as a tank and I have 4 different tanks. Yesterday I spent 2 hours on Mighty Chudan, including constantly waiting for people who would join the group, take 10 minutes to get to us, only to leave after the 4th wipe. There were lots of finger pointing and yelling and stress. A lot of it was legitimately pointing at me. I really struggle in this dungeon. 3 out of my four tanks are magicka tanks and I can't make them work in this dungeon, Only my 50K health igneous shield spamming DK tank can (sometimes) manage it. That is because this dungeon is unforgiving of error. No healer (I've ever grouped with) can keep people up from spit or the shielded add in the lightning dome, so you either get Chudan to kill him on the first attempt or it is a wipe. You have 10 seconds from the red aura until the charge and I never seem to be able to make it there in time while holding block, which seems to be necessary very often in that fight. I also have issues with situational awareness in this fight. I get confused about my orientation in the arena versus where Chudan is and I often don't see the add in time to start maneuvering over to him. I often get very overwhelmed trying to multitask taunting the archers, Chudan, the other adds, deal with my positioning and also not step in the poison puddles that slow you down and block the spit. It is just too much for me. Regardless for how often you tell me it is "easy", it isn't for me. As an aside, when people yell at me for failing dungeon mechanics they act like I'm not listening to them, or am stupid, or lazy or don't care. Their constant manta of "this is so easy" doesn't square with the struggle I am having. I am listening to them, I am not stupid, nor lazy and I obviously care enough to keep trying.

Usually everyone who randomly joins is as bad as me, but I can only speak for my own deficiencies. The only reason I can even do it with my DK igneous tank is that it shields the group and it is beefy enough to allow me to make mistakes and for the team to still live. But other than that I have to admit to myself that I am just not good enough to complete this fight the way it is intended to be done.

Magdalina

OldGamerESO wrote: »

I have had the worst luck in running random vets and getting this dungeon all the time. I never leave a dungeon as long as the group continues to try, but this one pushes me to my limit. I only queue as a tank and I have 4 different tanks. Yesterday I spent 2 hours on Mighty Chudan, including constantly waiting for people who would join the group, take 10 minutes to get to us, only to leave after the 4th wipe. There were lots of finger pointing and yelling and stress. A lot of it was legitimately pointing at me. I really struggle in this dungeon. 3 out of my four tanks are magicka tanks and I can't make them work in this dungeon, Only my 50K health igneous shield spamming DK tank can (sometimes) manage it. That is because this dungeon is unforgiving of error. No healer (I've ever grouped with) can keep people up from spit or the shielded add in the lightning dome, so you either get Chudan to kill him on the first attempt or it is a wipe. You have 10 seconds from the red aura until the charge and I never seem to be able to make it there in time while holding block, which seems to be necessary very often in that fight. I also have issues with situational awareness in this fight. I get confused about my orientation in the arena versus where Chudan is and I often don't see the add in time to start maneuvering over to him. I often get very overwhelmed trying to multitask taunting the archers, Chudan, the other adds, deal with my positioning and also not step in the poison puddles that slow you down and block the spit.

It's an awful dungeon to pug, truly. You need a lot of teamwork and it's something pugs often lack. I think I might be able to give you some tips to make it easier though:) As a side note, you can absolutely tank it as a magicka tank, I tank it on my blazeplar with 43k health and 12k stamina and I've speedrun hm on this character without an issue. I'll admit higher health and a huge shield on top makes it more forgiving for mistakes but my stamina management is very narrow and I lack some of the skills DKs have at their fingertips.

Her poison spit can be reflected. Don't block it, don't dodge it, just spam wings and not only it won't hurt you but it'll hit Chudan back like a truck

You can keep people up if the caster doesn't die, I've done it with 2 misses in a row(boss died before we managed to fail the third one lol) but you do need to be a good healer for this. You also need to understand that the moment the caster doesn't go down after the charge, the countdown begins. The damage skyrockets and as a healer you can no longer afford to be cc'd, absent minded, OOM or worse yet, dead. Basically it's time to spam BoL at its highest capabilities and do it non stop xD I use shield too so I don't risk dying if anything(when I heal that is).

You really don't need to block much in this fight, one thing you must block is her frontal heavy attack(which will also one shot anyone being in front of her, not just you, so if people stand in her face and die to it it's their fault) which has a cue before it. Her poison can be reflected. Far as getting to the caster goes, make it easier - watch out for the caster BEFORE you get the aoe. Take mental note "aha, caster spawn to the left, gonna move the boss there a bit so it's easier to reach". This way if you get the aoe you won't have to spend next 5 seconds trying to see the caster from behind her fat spike butt. I just dodge=>run there. Bad luck if you get cc'd on the way, but generally doesn't happen that much. If you feel you absolutely need block, use s&b ulti - it's 7 seconds of free block+reflect during which you can run, dodge, attack or do whatever else.

Edit: @Kilavkid , sent you a letter in game(at least I hope I didn't mistype anything and it went to you, lemme know if you don't get it XD)