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PLEASE ADD MORE THAN 700 SPACES TO GRAND TOPAL HIDEAWAY!

Evan8642
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Please add more than 700 spaces. @ZOS_GinaBruno , i paid $125 bucks on crowns to purchase this house (which was overpriced, and i had to trick myself into thinking i was just buying x2 new xbox games from gamestop) and there are so many limitations to this area, such as not being able to scale the volcano, and although you can vist most of the map, its tricky in some spots... , or not being able to move the mini boat, This area has SO MUCH potential yet i feel 700 spots isn't quite cutting it. Please consider doubling this to at least 1400 considering this is twice if no the size of daggerfall and earthtear cavern.
  • Kammakazi
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    Why'd you pay $125 for a virtual home
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  • AlienatedGoat
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    Isn't going to happen. They completely botched the island and the cavern by making them have the exact same item and player limits as the in-game manors. There's also invisible walls all over the place, and more than half of the island is impassable due to rocks and cliffs. The value of the island was just terrible considering the price. I don't anticipate ZOS doing any more work on the home when it makes no financial sense to dedicate resources to it anymore. Plenty of people already shelled out big bucks for the home and it's not even available for purchase anymore.

    Keep in mind though, being an ESO+ member gives you double the item limit on homes. So if you want your 1400 item limit, subscribe and then decorate to your hearts content.
    Edited by AlienatedGoat on May 3, 2017 1:29AM
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  • Evan8642
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    I am an ESO + subscriber and the max limit for me is 700
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  • Fingolfinn01
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    hey I hope they triple it.

    I didn't buy it. Though if it had more functionality and higher decorator limit. I might have been tempted.
    Edited by Fingolfinn01 on May 3, 2017 1:33AM
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  • Sweetpea704
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    Yeah, that isn't true. I'd be cool with it though...
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  • AlienatedGoat
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    Evan8642 wrote: »
    I am an ESO + subscriber and the max limit for me is 700

    You might want to put in a bug report then. 700 is the base limit on all manor sized homes. ESO+ is supposed to double that.

    Actually I just checked, and 700 is the ESO+ limit. Forgive my mistake.

    Just another thing to add to the list of disappointments of Homestead.
    Edited by AlienatedGoat on May 3, 2017 1:29AM
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  • Evan8642
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    350 is the base size, 700 is what it says on players spread sheets because they are already factoring in the "double" you get from ESO + which is why it says "maximum size available"
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  • idk
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    @Evan8642

    Zos is working on determining how many more items can be added. They announced this recently.
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  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    @Evan8642

    Zos is working on determining how many more items can be added. They announced this recently.

    @Giles.floydub17_ESO
    I have not been able to find the announcement about future housing improvements.
    Any chance you could post the link?
    Thanks!
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  • CirithValaria
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    Been spamming feedback about this in-game.

    Considering the size of the island... the item limit makes no sense at all.
    I don't care even the slightest if its not fair to have more item capacity than other "houses" - this island is clearly something very different and should be treated as different... Yes I bought it and I accepted as it is, but it won't mean it couldn't be improved thanks to constructive feedback. "It's mmo - things tend to change". I trust zos will realize this issue sooner rather than later.

    Why is this island considered as a "house", its clearly an area and we should be allowed to ride there!
    I can live with invisible walls, since otherwise we would build bridge out of there... hehhhehe!
    What I don't understand is the limit in the first place. It is instanced secluded area. Only you decide to fill it with junk and if it then becomes very slow to load, it is your own fault - so we can live with that which we have control over!
    I think eso+ subscribers should have no limit at all and if there just HAVE TO be a limit, just add one zero to that 700(0)...
    I've been wondering the collectible limit too. Why is it there? Why can't all my vanity pets roam freely on my island?!?
    Just so weird...but then again I'm not the brightest one out there..

    Zos always encourages us to be creative and loves when we are, but these limits give a hard cap for our creativity and I hate it. I love details and I like to think myself as perfectionist when it becomes decorating. I use money, time and heart to it. I want the island feel alive, creative, unique and nice place for my guild to be in. I'm at item limit already, even if I got only my right shore - small ruins - waterfall/pond area made (all else is plain empty).
    Dueling arena, hatching area (RP), DD practice grounds, crafting area. These eat a lot item capacity and require details.
    I don't see any point decorating outside area with just few trees and rocks, and putting few chairs and beds or kitchen indoors which does not benefit me in no way and are only visuals at best with no real utility.

    I understand homestead is made as time and gold sink (also crown). It has no use for most players by default, but after some creative thinking it can become a social environment to you, your friends and guild. That benefits them in many cool ways!

    Motto:
    “What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us...
    What we have done for others and the world, it remains and is immortal...”

    About me:
    @Cirith-Valar'ia & @Lilith-Valar'ia (in-game)
    | hardcore-casual | pc-eu / ps4-eu | pve | pvp | player since early beta | subscriber since early-launch |
    | The Sanctum Sanctorum - founder & guild master |

    Characters:
    @Cirith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Cirith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Lady of Light, Templar DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Aldmeri Dominion (Master Crafter - all crafts, traits & styles.)
    Nezghul Sithis | Breton (F) | Winter Ward, Warden Tank (magic) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Hakrate Hecate | Orc (F) | Dying Light, Templar DD (stamina, PvP) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Tummien-Vesien-Tulkki | Argonian (M) | Blood Shield, Nightblade Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Valonkantaja | Argonian (F) | Healer of the Hist, Templar Healer | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Tulenvalaja | Argonian (M) | Guardian of the Hist, Dragonknight DD (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kuolon-Raatojen-Kaitsija | Argonian (M) | Corpsekeeper of the Hist, Necromancer Tank (magic) | lvl 20 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kal-Mah | Argonian (F) | Spawn of Wamasu, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Puutiainen | Bosmer (F) | Horny Ravager, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Musta-Surma | Khajiit (F) | Nightpawler, Nightblade DD - thief/murderer (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    T'Sok Shiar | Altmer (F) | Touched by Daedra, Sorcerer DD (magic) | (ex)VR 1 | Daggerfall Covenant (Master Cook - all recipes.)
    S'auron | Khajiit (M) | Poison Paw, Dragonknight DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (1100CP)

    @Lilith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Lilith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Phœnix, Dragonknight Healer | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Stormpaw | Khajiit (F) | Cpt. Pirate Puss, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Iliath Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Storm Ward, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Haudantakainen | Argonian (M) | Pale Avenger, Nightblade DD (magic) | lvl 25 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kira Tal'Shiar | Breton (F) | Warrior of Light, Templar DD (magic) | lvl 10 | Ebonheart Pact
    Sunpaw | Khajiit (M) | Crescent Moon Guardian, Templar Tank (stamina, PvP) | lvl 40 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Shangri Shadowtusk | Orc (F) | Shadowtusk, Nightblade DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (180CP)

    @CirithValaria(ps4-eu)
    Topaz-dar | Khajiit (F) | Mysticat, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 5 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Her-Frozen-Heart | Argonian (F) | Frozen Shield, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 5 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Neazgûl | Redguard (F) | Bear Matron, Warden DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (160CP)
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  • bloodthirstyvampire
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Why'd you pay $125 for a virtual home

    Because he wanted too just a guess
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  • CirithValaria
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    Details and creativity [proofs] All this is created from small and simple decorations (combining and aligning) and on totally empty spots.
    Taken during night so that all the lights show.. (they eat crazy amount item capacity together with "nature")

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    Motto:
    “What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us...
    What we have done for others and the world, it remains and is immortal...”

    About me:
    @Cirith-Valar'ia & @Lilith-Valar'ia (in-game)
    | hardcore-casual | pc-eu / ps4-eu | pve | pvp | player since early beta | subscriber since early-launch |
    | The Sanctum Sanctorum - founder & guild master |

    Characters:
    @Cirith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Cirith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Lady of Light, Templar DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Aldmeri Dominion (Master Crafter - all crafts, traits & styles.)
    Nezghul Sithis | Breton (F) | Winter Ward, Warden Tank (magic) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Hakrate Hecate | Orc (F) | Dying Light, Templar DD (stamina, PvP) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Tummien-Vesien-Tulkki | Argonian (M) | Blood Shield, Nightblade Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Valonkantaja | Argonian (F) | Healer of the Hist, Templar Healer | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Tulenvalaja | Argonian (M) | Guardian of the Hist, Dragonknight DD (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kuolon-Raatojen-Kaitsija | Argonian (M) | Corpsekeeper of the Hist, Necromancer Tank (magic) | lvl 20 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kal-Mah | Argonian (F) | Spawn of Wamasu, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Puutiainen | Bosmer (F) | Horny Ravager, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Musta-Surma | Khajiit (F) | Nightpawler, Nightblade DD - thief/murderer (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    T'Sok Shiar | Altmer (F) | Touched by Daedra, Sorcerer DD (magic) | (ex)VR 1 | Daggerfall Covenant (Master Cook - all recipes.)
    S'auron | Khajiit (M) | Poison Paw, Dragonknight DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (1100CP)

    @Lilith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Lilith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Phœnix, Dragonknight Healer | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Stormpaw | Khajiit (F) | Cpt. Pirate Puss, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Iliath Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Storm Ward, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Haudantakainen | Argonian (M) | Pale Avenger, Nightblade DD (magic) | lvl 25 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kira Tal'Shiar | Breton (F) | Warrior of Light, Templar DD (magic) | lvl 10 | Ebonheart Pact
    Sunpaw | Khajiit (M) | Crescent Moon Guardian, Templar Tank (stamina, PvP) | lvl 40 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Shangri Shadowtusk | Orc (F) | Shadowtusk, Nightblade DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (180CP)

    @CirithValaria(ps4-eu)
    Topaz-dar | Khajiit (F) | Mysticat, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 5 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Her-Frozen-Heart | Argonian (F) | Frozen Shield, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 5 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Neazgûl | Redguard (F) | Bear Matron, Warden DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (160CP)
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  • Duiwel
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    Got my sub crowns the day after they took it off the store, had many on me and just needed a small boost the sub would've provided for it.

    I am sure many people missed it because of the timing of their sub re-apply system.

    Also OP why just the island?

    Why not all notable homes huh?
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  • FloppyTouch
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    They need to up the amount or allow us to buy more slots base on the house we have. Would love another 100-200 slots at my manor
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  • ScytheNL
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    Sure buddy, fork out another $ 79,95 and you can have 500 more spaces
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    They all need loads more slots, but I think the island needs the most...there's a lot of land space included.
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  • Jayman1000
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    Can someone explain to me what a house/island can be used for? I tried going to the Topal Hideaway preview; there was nothing to do but walk/run/swim around. I could also open some doors and go inside where I could walk/run around some more. Is this all there is to these homes?
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  • KingYogi415
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    They want us to max out the houses quickly.

    We can't even display all our mounts and pets in one house.

    All pushing you towards..... buying another house.

    Surprise right?

    Well, not really.

    Cheers!
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    At least a thousand, i still need to build ruins and a lighthouse, furnish 3 huts and guild building and only have 80 slots left.....
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  • idk
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    @Evan8642

    Zos is working on determining how many more items can be added. They announced this recently.

    @Giles.floydub17_ESO
    I have not been able to find the announcement about future housing improvements.
    Any chance you could post the link?
    Thanks!

    I do not have a link. I believe it was during an interview that either @ZOS_RichLambert or @ZOS_MattFiror had mentioned it was under review for consideration to increase the furnishings cap and that the current settings were purposely limited to see how server load was affected.
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  • FloppyTouch
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    Jayman1000 wrote: »
    Can someone explain to me what a house/island can be used for? I tried going to the Topal Hideaway preview; there was nothing to do but walk/run/swim around. I could also open some doors and go inside where I could walk/run around some more. Is this all there is to these homes?

    Create and be creative
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  • Nelson_Rebel
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    They need to double all homes current housing limits


    It's ridiculous this is even a problem. They didn't even give us storage! The exact definition of housing is just storage for your crap.

    Not giving more storage to special sales housing items twice the size of manors was just laughable. I dismissed the island as soon as I saw the item limits were the same
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Why'd you pay $125 for a virtual home

    I have comprised several answers for you, feel free to use any of them.

    1. Because he felt like it
    2. It was his money and he can do what he wants
    3. Some people think virtual homes are cool
    4. Not everyone has to live on Ramen and tap water
    5. Just to *** the haters off
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  • JamieAubrey
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    700 ? I wouldn't even come close to adding 20 things before I got bored
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  • Livvy
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    700 slots isn't even enough for landscaping and lighting on this property. :(

    I really do hope they increase it, not only for this property, but for all of them. It truly hinders creativity, and is so so frustrating the way it is right now.
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  • Stormahawk
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    I agree that 700 slots is not enough for the island. Actually it's not enough for most homes except really small ones. The item cap will also hurt furniture added in Morrowind since people will reluctant to destroy builds, or remove items from their homes for Morrowind furniture.

    I bought the island UNFURNISHED as a guild home and found it already had about 150 furnishings as plants/rocks, meaning unless I wanted to kill all plant life on the island, I only had 550 item slots to work with.

    Small items counting as much towards the item cap as larger ones means you also lose out by having detail-oriented builds. I've seen homes that had really incredible living rooms or yards, but the rest of the property was empty because of the cap.

    The cap on mounts and pets is also a problem. It's 10 on the island and much lower in non-notable homes. Meanwhile there is more than 50 mounts and pets in the game, and more are continued to be added while the cap remains the same.

    Buying more homes is not a solution since players can only have one primary residence at a time.

    Either increase the item cap, or allow for it to be upgraded with gold like bag space.
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    Why is this island considered as a "house", its clearly an area and we should be allowed to ride there!


    If you look on your map, the island is in an area that hasn't been released yet. My guess is that you will eventually be able to swim there, or maybe buy a bridge. You can see the far shore when you swim out.
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  • Nelson_Rebel
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    Stormahawk wrote: »
    I agree that 700 slots is not enough for the island. Actually it's not enough for most homes except really small ones. The item cap will also hurt furniture added in Morrowind since people will reluctant to destroy builds, or remove items from their homes for Morrowind furniture.

    I bought the island UNFURNISHED as a guild home and found it already had about 150 furnishings as plants/rocks, meaning unless I wanted to kill all plant life on the island, I only had 550 item slots to work with.

    Small items counting as much towards the item cap as larger ones means you also lose out by having detail-oriented builds. I've seen homes that had really incredible living rooms or yards, but the rest of the property was empty because of the cap.

    The cap on mounts and pets is also a problem. It's 10 on the island and much lower in non-notable homes. Meanwhile there is more than 50 mounts and pets in the game, and more are continued to be added while the cap remains the same.

    Buying more homes is not a solution since players can only have one primary residence at a time.

    Either increase the item cap, or allow for it to be upgraded with gold like bag space.

    This is precisely why I kept the Ebonheart Chateau as a guild hall
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  • RavenRoxie
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    Evan8642 wrote: »
    Please add more than 700 spaces. @ZOS_GinaBruno , i paid $125 bucks on crowns to purchase this house (which was overpriced, and i had to trick myself into thinking i was just buying x2 new xbox games from gamestop) and there are so many limitations to this area, such as not being able to scale the volcano, and although you can vist most of the map, its tricky in some spots... , or not being able to move the mini boat, This area has SO MUCH potential yet i feel 700 spots isn't quite cutting it. Please consider doubling this to at least 1400 considering this is twice if no the size of daggerfall and earthtear cavern.

    He needs more prims!! (SecondLife people know what I'm talkin about ROFL) :trollface:
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