The true cost of Morrowind

Nerouyn

ZO charges 1000 crowns for 10 riding lessons and you need 180 lessons to max out. That puts the value of a fully horse trained character at 18,000 crowns.

Like many players, I suspect, I've horsed trained a bunch of alts but not played them at all. I've leveled them to 50 on dolmens during double xp events - cos that's trivial - and done some trait research. No fun has had been had with them.

I thought I was getting all the horrible time-gated grind out of the way in preparation for the long promised spellcrafting. While I can accept that development plans change, I can't accept either a) deleting 18,000 crowns of horse training (per character) to start them over or b) should ZO offer paid class changes, paying ZO extra for delivering less.

I have 4 characters I purchased extra slots for and made specifically with nature themed spellcrafting stuff in mind, plus an older one who has never been anything but a storage mule who I would change to warden given the opportunity.

So that puts the cost of Morrowind at box price + 90,000 crowns for me. That's obviously unappealing.

Unless there is free class change to warden or horse training is made account wide, Morrowind is off my radar. My final appeal. As luck would have it, a classless MMO with awful combat is revamping their combat to be better and much more to my tastes so I now have a great alternative.

Aliyavana

Nerouyn wrote: »

ZO charges 1000 crowns for 10 riding lessons and you need 180 lessons to max out. That puts the value of a fully horse trained character at 18,000 crowns.

Like many players, I suspect, I've horsed trained a bunch of alts but not played them at all. I've leveled them to 50 on dolmens during double xp events - cos that's trivial - and done some trait research. No fun has had been had with them.

I thought I was getting all the horrible time-gated grind out of the way in preparation for the long promised spellcrafting. While I can accept that development plans change, I can't accept either a) deleting 18,000 crowns of horse training (per character) to start them over or b) should ZO offer paid class changes, paying ZO extra for delivering less.

I have 4 characters I purchased extra slots for and made specifically with nature themed spellcrafting stuff in mind, plus an older one who has never been anything but a storage mule who I would change to warden given the opportunity.

So that puts the cost of Morrowind at box price + 90,000 crowns for me. That's obviously unappealing.

Unless there is free class change to warden or horse training is made account wide, Morrowind is off my radar. My final appeal. As luck would have it, a classless MMO with awful combat is revamping their combat to be better and much more to my tastes so I now have a great alternative.

Cool

Rex-Umbra

Esl?

WhiteMage

What is this MMO? I'm always curious about what's out there.

rotaugen454

So you HAVE to buy the lessons? You can't spend 180 days and gold like I did for 7 characters?

Shadow_Viper_vX

Oh look.... another one of these threads....

If you don't like it don't buy it

That simple

Stop complaining

Useless Thread is useless

AhPook_Is_Here

Nerouyn wrote: »

ZO charges 1000 crowns for 10 riding lessons and you need 180 lessons to max out. That puts the value of a fully horse trained character at 18,000 crowns.

Like many players, I suspect, I've horsed trained a bunch of alts but not played them at all. I've leveled them to 50 on dolmens during double xp events - cos that's trivial - and done some trait research. No fun has had been had with them.

I thought I was getting all the horrible time-gated grind out of the way in preparation for the long promised spellcrafting. While I can accept that development plans change, I can't accept either a) deleting 18,000 crowns of horse training (per character) to start them over or b) should ZO offer paid class changes, paying ZO extra for delivering less.

I have 4 characters I purchased extra slots for and made specifically with nature themed spellcrafting stuff in mind, plus an older one who has never been anything but a storage mule who I would change to warden given the opportunity.

So that puts the cost of Morrowind at box price + 90,000 crowns for me. That's obviously unappealing.

Unless there is free class change to warden or horse training is made account wide, Morrowind is off my radar. My final appeal. As luck would have it, a classless MMO with awful combat is revamping their combat to be better and much more to my tastes so I now have a great alternative.

Don't take this as an attack, but I think making those kind of purchases on speculation really can't be blamed on anyone other than yourself.

acw37162

I personally believe Morrowind should come with a one time use class change token only to Warden.

It's a singular use item with no return trip.

You change your three year old maxed out Templar to Warden and hate it, I mean absolutely game breaking hate it, and your Templar was you only max level, max gear, fighters guild, had since day 1 baby.

If you don't change him back I'll take my sub and five hundred dollars a year in crown purchases elsewhere.

I'll write the better business bureau, file a criminal complaint, abduct your family pets and hold them for ransom, write my congressmen, senator and the Presidnet.

The answer is tough *** your stuck with a warden.

qsnoopyjr

Lemme tell you what this other thread had for the first page of replies.

"you get 2 free character slots with Morrowind"

...
Not 1, but 2.
That means you buy Morrowind... Normal games give you 1 slot... But this game gives you 2 slots... So do the math the other way pal... The game is actually saving you crowns by giving you a character slot on top of the one you are going to make your warden off of. You got free crowns, and it was automatically used on character slot.

Runs

Wouldn't the true cost just be the cost of the expansion, and the cost of 1 or 2 of the new character slots? You don't have to delete your old characters.

Ruinhorn

rotaugen454 wrote: »

So you HAVE to buy the lessons? You can't spend 180 days and gold like I did for 7 characters?

Noooo, this is too boring. We will spend insane amount of real money to get fancy hat in game and complain about we need to spend more.

I wonder how many tasty things I could buy for these 90000 of crowns? It's more than $700, right?

bareheiny

acw37162 wrote: »

I personally believe Morrowind should come with a one time use class change token only to Warden.

It's a singular use item with no return trip.

You change your three year old maxed out Templar to Warden and hate it, I mean absolutely game breaking hate it, and your Templar was you only max level, max gear, fighters guild, had since day 1 baby.

If you don't change him back I'll take my sub and five hundred dollars a year in crown purchases elsewhere.

I'll write the better business bureau, file a criminal complaint, abduct your family pets and hold them for ransom, write my congressmen, senator and the Presidnet.

The answer is tough *** your stuck with a warden.

DCUO provided free one-way power change tokens when the released Light (their first DLC power). From what I understand, it caused no end of problems because people didn't really understand that it was a one-way change.

In short current class to Warden would be a big old can 'o worms....not really worth the pain that it would invite (in the form of complaints and threats).

kargen27

Don't tell anybody but I was able to max out my mount on several different characters and was never charged. I hope I don't get suspended for using an exploit.

ixie

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Lemme tell you what this other thread had for the first page of replies.

"you get 2 free character slots with Morrowind"

...
Not 1, but 2.
That means you buy Morrowind... Normal games give you 1 slot... But this game gives you 2 slots... So do the math the other way pal... The game is actually saving you crowns by giving you a character slot on top of the one you are going to make your warden off of. You got free crowns, and it was automatically used on character slot.

Is this right? I thought they were just increasing the max slots by 2

PlagueSD

Nerouyn wrote: »

ZO charges 1000 crowns for 10 riding lessons and you need 180 lessons to max out. That puts the value of a fully horse trained character at 18,000 crowns.

Like many players, I suspect, I've horsed trained a bunch of alts but not played them at all. I've leveled them to 50 on dolmens during double xp events - cos that's trivial - and done some trait research. No fun has had been had with them.

I thought I was getting all the horrible time-gated grind out of the way in preparation for the long promised spellcrafting. While I can accept that development plans change, I can't accept either a) deleting 18,000 crowns of horse training (per character) to start them over or b) should ZO offer paid class changes, paying ZO extra for delivering less.

I have 4 characters I purchased extra slots for and made specifically with nature themed spellcrafting stuff in mind, plus an older one who has never been anything but a storage mule who I would change to warden given the opportunity.

So that puts the cost of Morrowind at box price + 90,000 crowns for me. That's obviously unappealing.

Unless there is free class change to warden or horse training is made account wide, Morrowind is off my radar. My final appeal. As luck would have it, a classless MMO with awful combat is revamping their combat to be better and much more to my tastes so I now have a great alternative.

tl;dr

I spent way too much money on the game, so now ZOS should give me free stuff.


amirite?

Jollygoodusername

Mount upgrades should be global. That much is common sense and if you still want to be punished for some odd reason, the upgrades should be applied to specific mounts. Either way the current system is beyond stupid, even as a ploy to get people to log in once a day, which I'm certain was the original goal.

zaria

kargen27 wrote: »

Don't tell anybody but I was able to max out my mount on several different characters and was never charged. I hope I don't get suspended for using an exploit.

LOL, yes I will probably spend 2000 crowns on speed lessons, then put most into speed and some into stamina over the weeks. You can buy bag upgrades rather than upgrading your horse as you have gold.

DaveMoeDee

It is OP's fault they made horrible choices. Buying riding lessons on alts you don't really play? Duh.

Spellcrafting???

Phinix1

ixie wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Lemme tell you what this other thread had for the first page of replies.

"you get 2 free character slots with Morrowind"

...
Not 1, but 2.
That means you buy Morrowind... Normal games give you 1 slot... But this game gives you 2 slots... So do the math the other way pal... The game is actually saving you crowns by giving you a character slot on top of the one you are going to make your warden off of. You got free crowns, and it was automatically used on character slot.

Is this right? I thought they were just increasing the max slots by 2

I am fairly certain it was confirmed by Gina that they are increasing the max character slots by 2, but they are NOT free. You have to buy them for I believe 1500 Crowns each.

Cpt_Teemo

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Lemme tell you what this other thread had for the first page of replies.

"you get 2 free character slots with Morrowind"

...
Not 1, but 2.
That means you buy Morrowind... Normal games give you 1 slot... But this game gives you 2 slots... So do the math the other way pal... The game is actually saving you crowns by giving you a character slot on top of the one you are going to make your warden off of. You got free crowns, and it was automatically used on character slot.

I thought they're making us buy the 2 extra slots? not giving to us for free

Myyth

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Lemme tell you what this other thread had for the first page of replies.

"you get 2 free character slots with Morrowind"

...
Not 1, but 2.
That means you buy Morrowind... Normal games give you 1 slot... But this game gives you 2 slots... So do the math the other way pal... The game is actually saving you crowns by giving you a character slot on top of the one you are going to make your warden off of. You got free crowns, and it was automatically used on character slot.

Last I heard and from every other thread about it you have to PAY for the 2 character slots, they are not free. Since I have a full 12 slots that means morrowind will cost me an extra $30. I am not sure if I will be buying either at that cost.

Cpt_Teemo

Jollygoodusername wrote: »

Mount upgrades should be global. That much is common sense and if you still want to be punished for some odd reason, the upgrades should be applied to specific mounts. Either way the current system is beyond stupid, even as a ploy to get people to log in once a day, which I'm certain was the original goal.

Also feel the same way about the hirelings they could easily make it stack up to 7 days with a stock pile of mats but they want login ratings up from the looks of it

dodgehopper_ESO

rotaugen454 wrote: »

So you HAVE to buy the lessons? You can't spend 180 days and gold like I did for 7 characters?

Exactly. It will be a cold day in hell I give them money for cheap shots like this. There are things I feel are worthwhile for my cash and I buy those things. What I do not feel is worth it, I won't.

dodgehopper_ESO

acw37162 wrote: »

I personally believe Morrowind should come with a one time use class change token only to Warden.

It's a singular use item with no return trip.

You change your three year old maxed out Templar to Warden and hate it, I mean absolutely game breaking hate it, and your Templar was you only max level, max gear, fighters guild, had since day 1 baby.

If you don't change him back I'll take my sub and five hundred dollars a year in crown purchases elsewhere.

I'll write the better business bureau, file a criminal complaint, abduct your family pets and hold them for ransom, write my congressmen, senator and the Presidnet.

The answer is tough *** your stuck with a warden.

I would love this, I'd definitely re-race/class one of my characters. The effort I've put in crafting/horses/achievements etc stops me from ever deleting.

Euant

ixie wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Lemme tell you what this other thread had for the first page of replies.

"you get 2 free character slots with Morrowind"

...
Not 1, but 2.
That means you buy Morrowind... Normal games give you 1 slot... But this game gives you 2 slots... So do the math the other way pal... The game is actually saving you crowns by giving you a character slot on top of the one you are going to make your warden off of. You got free crowns, and it was automatically used on character slot.

Is this right? I thought they were just increasing the max slots by 2

Not sure where SnoopyJR is getting their information from but at this time Marrowind does not come with ANY free character slots. When Marrowind launches, they are allowing people to buy 2 more additional character slots, bringing the total possible cap to 14. Unless you buy them, you'll still have only 8 slots.

starkerealm

ixie wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Lemme tell you what this other thread had for the first page of replies.

"you get 2 free character slots with Morrowind"

...
Not 1, but 2.
That means you buy Morrowind... Normal games give you 1 slot... But this game gives you 2 slots... So do the math the other way pal... The game is actually saving you crowns by giving you a character slot on top of the one you are going to make your warden off of. You got free crowns, and it was automatically used on character slot.

Is this right? I thought they were just increasing the max slots by 2

No, it's not. You'll be able to buy two additional slots, at 1,500 crowns a piece, but you won't get any for free.