Redguard Healer

peoplecallmeleo

So before you freak out and start crying "This won't work" just hear me out. I run a Redguard Templar healer and I don't plan on race or role changing anytime soon. In my opinion being a Redguard healer gives my toon a bit of extra stam for either break free, or an extra roll dodge which i have found to be invaluable in dungeons and trials. I've never really had a issue with Magicka sustain but every now and again when I tell people about being a Redguard healer they start crying and giving me ***. I've even been kicked from groups and 1 guild cause I refused to change my race lol. I don't understand how people in large refuse to understand my logic for it, at least to me it makes perfect sense. the last thing you want in a trial or Vet dungeon is a healer that can't break free or doesn't have to stam to roll dodge out of some of the bigger AOE.
And before you comment some dumb *** about it's not going to work or whatever I should let you know I've beat every Trial and dungeon in Vet and Hard mode also went through VDSA and tanked the last boss running this Healer.
I even got the Hard mode, Speed and no death runs in cradle with him(Currently working on the speed run for Mazzatun)
Does anyone else have a controversial race class for their builds....... I'm also rocking a Brenton Stam DK lol

subtlezeroub17_ESO

That's why racials need to get toned down. They are worth way too much.

FlyLionel

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

So before you freak out and start crying "This won't work" just hear me out. I run a Redguard Templar healer and I don't plan on race or role changing anytime soon. In my opinion being a Redguard healer gives my toon a bit of extra stam for either break free, or an extra roll dodge which i have found to be invaluable in dungeons and trials. I've never really had a issue with Magicka sustain but every now and again when I tell people about being a Redguard healer they start crying and giving me ***. I've even been kicked from groups and 1 guild cause I refused to change my race lol. I don't understand how people in large refuse to understand my logic for it, at least to me it makes perfect sense. the last thing you want in a trial or Vet dungeon is a healer that can't break free or doesn't have to stam to roll dodge out of some of the bigger AOE.
And before you comment some dumb *** about it's not going to work or whatever I should let you know I've beat every Trial and dungeon in Vet and Hard mode also went through VDSA and tanked the last boss running this Healer.
I even got the Hard mode, Speed and no death runs in cradle with him(Currently working on the speed run for Mazzatun)
Does anyone else have a controversial race class for their builds....... I'm also rocking a Brenton Stam DK lol

Good luck next patch. How do you proc adrenaline passive? It procs off of melee damage right? Waste of a passive I guess. Also the healer is suppose to tank the last boss in VDSA, while the tank taunts everything else and leaves lol. Stam DK Breton doesn't sound bad though, resistance and more igneous? Races are just bonuses; in the end knowledge/experience is mostly needed.

I used an Imperial mag sorc to farm VMA when it first came out, that was just to respec my stam sorc to mag cause back then stam had a rough time.

peoplecallmeleo

FlyLionel wrote: »

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

So before you freak out and start crying "This won't work" just hear me out. I run a Redguard Templar healer and I don't plan on race or role changing anytime soon. In my opinion being a Redguard healer gives my toon a bit of extra stam for either break free, or an extra roll dodge which i have found to be invaluable in dungeons and trials. I've never really had a issue with Magicka sustain but every now and again when I tell people about being a Redguard healer they start crying and giving me ***. I've even been kicked from groups and 1 guild cause I refused to change my race lol. I don't understand how people in large refuse to understand my logic for it, at least to me it makes perfect sense. the last thing you want in a trial or Vet dungeon is a healer that can't break free or doesn't have to stam to roll dodge out of some of the bigger AOE.
And before you comment some dumb *** about it's not going to work or whatever I should let you know I've beat every Trial and dungeon in Vet and Hard mode also went through VDSA and tanked the last boss running this Healer.
I even got the Hard mode, Speed and no death runs in cradle with him(Currently working on the speed run for Mazzatun)
Does anyone else have a controversial race class for their builds....... I'm also rocking a Brenton Stam DK lol

Good luck next patch. How do you proc adrenaline passive? It procs off of melee damage right? Waste of a passive I guess. Also the healer is suppose to tank the last boss in VDSA, while the tank taunts everything else and leaves lol. Stam DK Breton doesn't sound bad though, resistance and more igneous? Races are just bonuses; in the end knowledge/experience is mostly needed.

I used an Imperial mag sorc to farm VMA when it first came out, that was just to respec my stam sorc to mag cause back then stam had a rough time.

Yeah I dont have anything into that passive. And I know thats what supposed to happen on the last Boss in VDSA I'm just mentioning the *** I've done with the healer before someone tries telling me I wont be able to do a certain thing. funny enough the group I ran VDSA with the last time was giving me *** trying to tell me I wont be able to sustain with the heals because of my race... Scrubs

LadyNalcarya

Well, if you like your char, then what's the problem?
Of course, having more resourses is usually better than having less, but it's not like "this wont work". There's a huuuuge gap between "working" and "being 100% optimal", and in most cases you can do just fine without having 100% optimal build.
That being said, randoms will always be, well, random. I was called a "noob" because I didnt know a name of Deltia's build. I was also called a "noob" and kicked from groups by low cp guys when playing on a low level alt (I had max cp, purple gear and food, ofc). There's always people like this, and its better to just ignore them...

idk

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

That's why racials need to get toned down. They are worth way too much.

It really. I've seen plenty of off race choices playing near the highest levels of the game.

I've seen wood elfs and Kahjiits in magika roles and even seem a redguard as a Templar healer, all in vMoL clears.

While redguard would not be the best choice for having stam for break free (on elsssove s doesn't requires the use of melee skills, it will work. I'd prob choose a wood elf for what OP describes.

The most important factor to how well a character performed is how well the player plays it.

AcadianPaladin

My magplar healer is a Bosmer. So is my magsorc pet dps. So is my stamsorc bow/bow snowflake. If I ever decide to make a DK tank, she will be the same Bosmer. See the pattern?

The magplar and magsorc are quite potent characters but I have no interest in high end content. I don't group for veteran stuff and I don't grind for gear above crafted or overland drops.

The magsorc in Necropotence and Julianos does fine in all regards.

The healer runs Seducer and focuses a lot on both max magicka and max recovery; though the smallest healer on the battlefield, she's darn good at what she does.

The stamsorc bowgirl is actually a good race choice. Her limitation is bow/bow. Even though she has no problem with quests, delves, public dungeons, I would not group her unless with friends because in competive dps circles she is a glass noodle snowflake. Fun though.

DisgracefulMind

While I prefer Altmer and Dunmer because of personal preference and interest, I don't think there's much wrong with playing what race you want. If it suits your interests and playstyle, then go for it (:

ankhor8

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

So before you freak out and start crying "This won't work" just hear me out. I run a Redguard Templar healer and I don't plan on race or role changing anytime soon. In my opinion being a Redguard healer gives my toon a bit of extra stam for either break free, or an extra roll dodge which i have found to be invaluable in dungeons and trials. I've never really had a issue with Magicka sustain but every now and again when I tell people about being a Redguard healer they start crying and giving me ***. I've even been kicked from groups and 1 guild cause I refused to change my race lol. I don't understand how people in large refuse to understand my logic for it, at least to me it makes perfect sense. the last thing you want in a trial or Vet dungeon is a healer that can't break free or doesn't have to stam to roll dodge out of some of the bigger AOE.
And before you comment some dumb *** about it's not going to work or whatever I should let you know I've beat every Trial and dungeon in Vet and Hard mode also went through VDSA and tanked the last boss running this Healer.
I even got the Hard mode, Speed and no death runs in cradle with him(Currently working on the speed run for Mazzatun)
Does anyone else have a controversial race class for their builds....... I'm also rocking a Brenton Stam DK lol

This is one of the many reasons i have liked Tamriel over the years. The options for customizing.
As long as one devotes strategic intelligence in addition to their combat style preferences, they'll highly likely develop an effective avatar.

You seem to be a healing Hiradirge, interesting. Are you more Crown(Na-Totambu) or Forebear(Ra-Gada)?

Sinolai

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

So before you freak out and start crying "This won't work" just hear me out. I run a Redguard Templar healer and I don't plan on race or role changing anytime soon. In my opinion being a Redguard healer gives my toon a bit of extra stam for either break free, or an extra roll dodge which i have found to be invaluable in dungeons and trials. I've never really had a issue with Magicka sustain but every now and again when I tell people about being a Redguard healer they start crying and giving me ***. I've even been kicked from groups and 1 guild cause I refused to change my race lol. I don't understand how people in large refuse to understand my logic for it, at least to me it makes perfect sense. the last thing you want in a trial or Vet dungeon is a healer that can't break free or doesn't have to stam to roll dodge out of some of the bigger AOE.
And before you comment some dumb *** about it's not going to work or whatever I should let you know I've beat every Trial and dungeon in Vet and Hard mode also went through VDSA and tanked the last boss running this Healer.
I even got the Hard mode, Speed and no death runs in cradle with him(Currently working on the speed run for Mazzatun)
Does anyone else have a controversial race class for their builds....... I'm also rocking a Brenton Stam DK lol

I have Breton MagSorc DD and Imperial HealPlar Neither is optimal but still have done almost all "hard core content" with them. Just vAS +2 missing from Sorc and a couple of more trial HMs with Temp, Also got a Nord DKTank that is in pretty much same position as the Templar.

Turelus

The main thing to consider when playing a sub optimal race is you can't just take a cookie cutter build and make it work.

If you're a race with less magicka regeneration and you're finding you're running out then you need to find sets which cover that gap. None of the content in ESO requires a perfect min/max build, it just makes it easier to do the content as well as finding working builds.

I have an Orc Warden healer, it's awesome.

Tasear

Bosmer Sorc Healer here xD

When people ask we are hybrids

>..> points here

FakeFox

Honestly race doesn't really matter for a healer, as it does not necessarily affect your effectiveness. A DD will do less DPS with a bad race, however a healer does give the exact same support no matter what race. Sure being Breton, Highelf or Argonian makes it easier to play, but then again, you can pump up your sustain to infinity without downsides anyway.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO

I would accept you want to be a Redguard cos you like Regduards. The point that the you get the extra stamina ...meh. Tristat pots. If you get constantly CCd well, there is an overall problem in managing enemies during fights.

I remember prior to launch the idea was you can be whatever you want. Well, things are not exactly like that (sorc tanking vMOL anyone?). Stamina DPS? Most people will yell at you if you don't do a Redguard. You can easily do some 30K DPS with a Nord. Just do what you like. It's a game.

Enslaved

Is your redguard a stam healer?

Tasear

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

I would accept you want to be a Redguard cos you like Regduards. The point that the you get the extra stamina ...meh. Tristat pots. If you get constantly CCd well, there is an overall problem in managing enemies during fights.

I remember prior to launch the idea was you can be whatever you want. Well, things are not exactly like that (sorc tanking vMOL anyone?). Stamina DPS? Most people will yell at you if you don't do a Redguard. You can easily do some 30K DPS with a Nord. Just do what you like. It's a game.

Actually once upon time when I was just starting veteran trials, I ask have you ever seen a sorc tank or healer in veteran trials. Turns out it used be a bit common for sorc tanks to exist at end game, but sorc healer stole their ultimate and continues dark exchange changes let them slip away.

But just case here's some old pictures. This was before morrowind. Sorcs.. were a bit overpowered no...

badmojo

Used to run a Bosmer magicka templar healer. In PVP when the choice was me on my Bosmer or no healer....not many people in the guild complained, they were more surprised than critical when the topic came up.

Now that I have other characters leveled up, I have respeced him to stamina.

dodgehopper_ESO

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

So before you freak out and start crying "This won't work" just hear me out. I run a Redguard Templar healer and I don't plan on race or role changing anytime soon. In my opinion being a Redguard healer gives my toon a bit of extra stam for either break free, or an extra roll dodge which i have found to be invaluable in dungeons and trials. I've never really had a issue with Magicka sustain but every now and again when I tell people about being a Redguard healer they start crying and giving me ***. I've even been kicked from groups and 1 guild cause I refused to change my race lol. I don't understand how people in large refuse to understand my logic for it, at least to me it makes perfect sense. the last thing you want in a trial or Vet dungeon is a healer that can't break free or doesn't have to stam to roll dodge out of some of the bigger AOE.
And before you comment some dumb *** about it's not going to work or whatever I should let you know I've beat every Trial and dungeon in Vet and Hard mode also went through VDSA and tanked the last boss running this Healer.
I even got the Hard mode, Speed and no death runs in cradle with him(Currently working on the speed run for Mazzatun)
Does anyone else have a controversial race class for their builds....... I'm also rocking a Brenton Stam DK lol

I've got a Nord healer and actually I think its pretty strong for the purpose. The bonus Health, constant health regeneration, and resistances are nice on what is an otherwise squishy build. I personally feel like the loss in magic is made up for by resistance. I will add however that once they stabilized on the last changes to Argonian that I think Argonian is a better pick, but this is only because the healing received and healing output is matched by a strong maximum health as well. Either way I think they're fine for a healer as you generally just need to be good enough with healing.

Tasear

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

So before you freak out and start crying "This won't work" just hear me out. I run a Redguard Templar healer and I don't plan on race or role changing anytime soon. In my opinion being a Redguard healer gives my toon a bit of extra stam for either break free, or an extra roll dodge which i have found to be invaluable in dungeons and trials. I've never really had a issue with Magicka sustain but every now and again when I tell people about being a Redguard healer they start crying and giving me ***. I've even been kicked from groups and 1 guild cause I refused to change my race lol. I don't understand how people in large refuse to understand my logic for it, at least to me it makes perfect sense. the last thing you want in a trial or Vet dungeon is a healer that can't break free or doesn't have to stam to roll dodge out of some of the bigger AOE.
And before you comment some dumb *** about it's not going to work or whatever I should let you know I've beat every Trial and dungeon in Vet and Hard mode also went through VDSA and tanked the last boss running this Healer.
I even got the Hard mode, Speed and no death runs in cradle with him(Currently working on the speed run for Mazzatun)
Does anyone else have a controversial race class for their builds....... I'm also rocking a Brenton Stam DK lol

I've got a Nord healer and actually I think its pretty strong for the purpose. The bonus Health, constant health regeneration, and resistances are nice on what is an otherwise squishy build. I personally feel like the loss in magic is made up for by resistance. I will add however that once they stabilized on the last changes to Argonian that I think Argonian is a better pick, but this is only because the healing received and healing output is matched by a strong maximum health as well. Either way I think they're fine for a healer as you generally just need to be good enough with healing.

I think healers benefit more from other races. It helps them become more well rounded.

KiraTsukasa

You just don't listen to people and play what you want. I play an Argonian, do you know how much *** I'd get if I listened to people?

DMuehlhausen

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

That's why racials need to get toned down. They are worth way too much.

Racials should never be a determining factor in what class you are in any game. Most games it's such a minor boost it's not noticeable. Yet here it can almost mean the difference between beating a boss or not.

Kanar

I am building up a Breton warden stam healer + bow/bow DD. He's a reachman so has to be either Nord or Breton.

On the stam healer side, being Breton is good cause I still need to cast orbs and maybe even combat prayer. On the DD side there's no upside, but oh well. As someone else said, success is more about player skill than these small build optimizations.

emilyhyoyeon

I can relate to all of this because, even though I also really like altmer, I really like khajiit and play as a khajiit on all of my characters-all of which except one are magicka.
I don't do vet trials, but I've never gotten kicked from any other content. It's never been a situation yet where my group cannot complete something ONLY because I'm a khajiit magicka healer instead of argonian. My stamina khajiit is a nightblade, but I've heard stamina NBs get kicked from vet trials.