Twice Born Star

gediv2

Is Twice Born Star being eliminated or changed when Nerfpocolypse happens?

Tryxus

It was already gone when Homestead hit live

gediv2

Thanks. So does the set I have still work? I see 2 mundus's on my character sheet. Thanks for the reply.

Danksta

gediv2 wrote: »

Thanks. So does the set I have still work? I see 2 mundus's on my character sheet. Thanks for the reply.

It works and you can still craft it, it's just not optimal because of the nerf to crit damage.

DoccEff

I wish the devs could at least make the set save the second mundus stone, so you could change to it in some certain situations without having to get your buff again.
TBS doesn't have to be BiS again, but it should have some use.

Zvorgin

It is a unique set that brings a different dynamic to the table in creating builds, of course it's a pain in the butt to use!

I agree it should save Mundus stones, I would also love to be able to set up multiple load outs of gear and skills and be able to quickly change on console. I've gotten so tired of moving between PvP and PvE gear and skills that I'm rolling a PvE specific toon and leaving the other for PvP. PC users are spoiled with their fancy addons.

gediv2

1) The people who I've heard say TBS was "removed/gone" really mean that it is no longer BIS?

2) The Crit nerf that people say lowers TBS value was the Proc sets not critting any more? I don't understand how that impacts TBS more than other sets.

TheStealthDude

gediv2 wrote: »

1) The people who I've heard say TBS was "removed/gone" really mean that it is no longer BIS?

2) The Crit nerf that people say lowers TBS value was the Proc sets not critting any more? I don't understand how that impacts TBS more than other sets.

1) Correct. It's still a decent set. Just not BiS.

2) There were a couple crit nerfs. Procs no longer crit, yes. But the Major Force buff (+ Crit Damage) was changed to be additive, as opposed to multiplication, as well as nerfed for anyone who had any additional +crit damage over the base 50%. Minor Force was also nerfed a few % I believe.

Zorgon_The_Revenged

There was a PTS change to which stone gets removed when you activate a new mundus. I think it now removes the oldest when activating a new one.

gediv2

Thanks for all the info everyone. I'm gonna still run it sometimes.

Danksta

gediv2 wrote: »

1) The people who I've heard say TBS was "removed/gone" really mean that it is no longer BIS?

2) The Crit nerf that people say lowers TBS value was the Proc sets not critting any more? I don't understand how that impacts TBS more than other sets.

1. That's my assumption. I recently crafted a piece for a master writ.
2. TBS was really only optimal in raid situations where you were getting a good uptime on Major Force through Warhorn. With the Homestead patch both Major and Minor Force were nerfed, reducing TBS effectiveness. Now NMG and I believe Hunding's Rage are better than TBS. This really only matters if you're trying to min/max, if you're just running dungeons or doing overland stuff then it doesn't matter.

DRXHarbinger

To be honest I've always used tbs on magdk heavy attack build. A shadow mundus crit in all divines is worth more damage than undaunted weaver and affects EVERY tick rather than the 2k bonus at the end. It's something people need to reconsider going forward and actually test rather sit in the library.

majulook

I run TBS (shadow thief) all divines with the Grothdarr set on my NB it works ok for now.

br0steen

TBS is not bad, it's very good

O_LYKOS

I see it as a stepping stone before acquiring BiS gear. So it's never been worthless imo

Tholian1

As a casual with all crafted gear, A TBS/NMG combo has worked great for me.