Hey Pro night blades. Did you try to pvp in BG without Siphoning attacks in pts ?

CavalryPK

How was it? Whats the minimum magicka and stamina regen you need to shoot for to be competitive? How does this affect your spell damage?

Personally i still find heavy armor is the way to go. Runnig 5x shaklebraker and 5x necro. One x choko for magick regen. 5 heavy 2 light.

In no cp :

Magicka regen is at 1550 and spell dmg is at 1980. Max magicka is at 40k and 44k with the shade. Using the crit chance mundus.

Max stamina is at 12k and 840 stam recovery.

I feel like my damage is good and i am relatively tanky with shadow barrier being almost 10 seconds long. Between using fear, healing path and shadow image, i have it 100% uptime. There are some builds that have crazy amount of damage and chew through my armor like paper but I found that using healing ward and swollo soul i sort of can manage, since i can sort of block and dodge more often.

I found i am not missing s strikes as much but i have to be careful and throw in occasional heavy resto attacks. I would definitely like more magick regen and stamina regen aaaand i would like more spell damage lol.

abigfishy

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All the Pro NBs have answered.

KingYogi415

How to Nightblade:

Step 1: Cloak

Step 2: Gank

Step 3: Profit

Cheers!

Jitterbug

I'm personally aiming for 2k regen. Will have to see how it goes.
My theory right now is to sacrifice crit for regen and try to keep the spell power where it is (also 2k).
So I'm toying with some values to aim for which is:

magicka: 30k
health: 20k (with battle spirit)
mag regen: 2k (unbuffed) - prolly a little high.
spell damage: 2k (unbuffed)
impen: 2k (3.3 with transmutation)

these values will leave nothing to invest in crit, or at least very little. If I can hit the 2k regen mark without atronach I will go for thief mundus. i can't say whether or not these values make it up for the loss of siphon but I imagine they will.

Aliyavana

Bgs are part of morrowind and are under nda so your thread will be taken down the to the possibility of nda violations

Rosveen

aliyavana wrote: »

Bgs are part of morrowind and are under nda so your thread will be taken down the to the possibility of nda violations

The NDA was partially lifted and we are allowed to discuss the original four classes' performance on PTS, including the battlegrounds.

Aliyavana

Rosveen wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

Bgs are part of morrowind and are under nda so your thread will be taken down the to the possibility of nda violations

The NDA was partially lifted and we are allowed to discuss the original four classes' performance on PTS, including the battlegrounds.

Ok ty for the correction

makreth

what's a nightblade? I've only heard of nightingale.

Juhasow

Rosveen wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

Bgs are part of morrowind and are under nda so your thread will be taken down the to the possibility of nda violations

The NDA was partially lifted and we are allowed to discuss the original four classes' performance on PTS, including the battlegrounds.

I think NDA was lifted to talk about base game classes ballance but not about battllegrounds which are part of Morrowind and every content that is located inside new map is under NDA. We can talk about how current classes work in current content but not inside Morrowind content. There was statement of @ZOS_GinaBruno that we can publish videos etc as long as we are not inside Morrowind on PTS.

FlyLionel

KingYogi415 wrote: »

How to Nightblade:

Step 1: Cloak

Step 2: Gank

Step 3: Profit

Cheers!

Come on dog..you know that isn't true. At least with me, BG ready*

I can only see NBs running siphoning if their resources are super good; mainly for the heal now since the resources are not realistic for a pvp environment. Hopefully Zos fixes this, Warden gets literally free brutality/resources/ult from hitting the netch and we hit siphoning and it got buried(Plus it cost resources and it's not even automatic?? Still a nerf?). One day.

CavalryPK

Hehe, cmon folks, comment on your preferred regen and stats. Stay away from discussion about how magblades are like unicorns. Give me some hard numbes to work with.

CavalryPK

Jitterbug wrote: »

I'm personally aiming for 2k regen. Will have to see how it goes.
My theory right now is to sacrifice crit for regen and try to keep the spell power where it is (also 2k).
So I'm toying with some values to aim for which is:

magicka: 30k
health: 20k (with battle spirit)
mag regen: 2k (unbuffed) - prolly a little high.
spell damage: 2k (unbuffed)
impen: 2k (3.3 with transmutation)

these values will leave nothing to invest in crit, or at least very little. If I can hit the 2k regen mark without atronach I will go for thief mundus. i can't say whether or not these values make it up for the loss of siphon but I imagine they will.

I actually started with Transmutation.... how ever i found that the extra crit resist can be traded for extra stat pull and stam recovery by using the shaklebraker.

Tryxus

Not a pro but in general Siph Attacks doesn't really seem worth it anymore for any content:

- The Magicka return is barely noticable, so in the long run it might be better not to use anymore
- HP return is nice tho and it helps to stay alive a little longer, but you already have many self heals (+ Degeneration maybe?) so it's not really needed

CavalryPK

Tryxus wrote: »

Not a pro but in general Siph Attacks doesn't really seem worth it anymore for any content:

- The Magicka return is barely noticable, so in the long run it might be better not to use anymore
- HP return is nice tho and it helps to stay alive a little longer, but you already have many self heals (+ Degeneration maybe?) so it's not really needed

I think degeneration healing is icing on top, the real reason we use that skill is to proc major sorcery. Frankly if i can get over the fact i can use pots for major sorcery i would unslot that in a skill heartbeat. I like my tri stat potions.

KingYogi415

@FlyLionel
That's how I do it!

But otherwise the secrets of the blade do not belong on a public forum.

Cheers!

FlyLionel

KingYogi415 wrote: »

@FlyLionel
That's how I do it!

But otherwise the secrets of the blade do not belong on a public forum.

Cheers!

Lol, well said friend.