What is longer to level - Thieves guild or Dark Brotherhood?

tradewith2017

to max 12 lvl of line?
anyone can tell me pls?
so any reasons to do story quests? or repeatable quests will be faster in progression of line?
im interesting to cut corners

tradewith2017

or they equal in time sink?

Alchemical

I hit level 10 in thieves guild without doing any of the story somehow. Like literally don't ask me how, I don't know. Does just stealing stuff level it? I almost never went to Hew's Bane.

I murder tons of people though and I'm struggling to push level 4 Dark Brotherhood. I spent a ton of time in Gold Coast doing dailies and contracts.

When I first did DB and TGs back on console I remember it being similar, TG going faster despite the fact I put more effort into DB.

Bouldercleave

Alchemical wrote: »

I hit level 10 in thieves guild without doing any of the story somehow. Like literally don't ask me how, I don't know. Does just stealing stuff level it? I almost never went to Hew's Bane.

I murder tons of people though and I'm struggling to push level 4 Dark Brotherhood. I spent a ton of time in Gold Coast doing dailies and contracts.

When I first did DB and TGs back on console I remember it being similar, TG going faster despite the fact I put more effort into DB.

Pickpocketing and stealing from safeboxes level TG as I recall.

tradewith2017

@Alchemical
@Bouldercleave
you guys maybe telling bout Legerdemain?

Bouldercleave

Alchemical wrote: »

I hit level 10 in thieves guild without doing any of the story somehow. Like literally don't ask me how, I don't know. Does just stealing stuff level it? I almost never went to Hew's Bane.

I murder tons of people though and I'm struggling to push level 4 Dark Brotherhood. I spent a ton of time in Gold Coast doing dailies and contracts.

When I first did DB and TGs back on console I remember it being similar, TG going faster despite the fact I put more effort into DB.

Pickpocketing and stealing from safeboxes level TG as I recall.

QT_DevTeam wrote: »

@Alchemical
@Bouldercleave
you guys wrong you telling bout Legerdemain

Not chests - the safeboxes that are metal. You usually find them in homes and shops. Not the chests you find in the open world.

Also finding the thieves treasure troves in the open world levels TG I believe.

Alchemical

Trust me, I know the difference between TG and Legerdemain. I spent time grinding the latter. I spend a lot of time stealing, I just didn't do like, any TG content and still leveled it.

idk

QT_DevTeam wrote: »

or they equal in time sink?

Equal time sink. Same mechanisms of repeatable quests available though passives in TG help reduce any bounty faster but DB repeatable quests are easier to do without getting a bounty as long as one is careful.

idk

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Alchemical wrote: »

I hit level 10 in thieves guild without doing any of the story somehow. Like literally don't ask me how, I don't know. Does just stealing stuff level it? I almost never went to Hew's Bane.

I murder tons of people though and I'm struggling to push level 4 Dark Brotherhood. I spent a ton of time in Gold Coast doing dailies and contracts.

When I first did DB and TGs back on console I remember it being similar, TG going faster despite the fact I put more effort into DB.

Pickpocketing and stealing from safeboxes level TG as I recall.

I think you are thinking of Legerdemain which are leveled by picking locks and stealing. For TG to even remotely be leveled by these actions requires a repeatable quests and it is the quest that levels TG, not the pickpocketing or safeboxes themselves.

tradewith2017

so any reasons to do story quests? or repeatable quests will be faster in progression of line?
im interesting to cut corners

Bouldercleave

The way I did both is this:

1. I would do the story quests for a chunk of skill line xp until you can't progress any more.
2. I would do the daily quest
3. I would grind out the repeatables until I level and can progress the story line
4. rinse and repeat.

That gets you to about level 8-9 in each. The rest is just grind it out.

In answer to the Original question - they are about the same in terms of time requires.

idk

QT_DevTeam wrote: »

so any reasons to do story quests? or repeatable quests will be faster in progression of line?
im interesting to cut corners

As noted above, the main quests for the story grant a skill point for both areas. That is a skill point per main quest, but not every quest you will do along the way. Really the main reason for doing them on multiple characters.

lillybit

Dark Brotherhood takes longer; Thieves I managed to level just by doing the story with the occasional daily or tip board. In DB the only daily that counts towards progression is the Black Sacraments so i was having to take loads of contracts to get to each new level

Muramasa89

I found TG to be faster, between TG having more story quests (might be mistaken there) and that Kari's hit list, I didn't really get fed up with grinding it or do many repeatables. DB on the other hand, I do recall getting fed up and doing many, many repeatables.

FrancisCrawford

Are any of the DB passives cool in practice? I really like Clemency from the TG, and Swiftly Forgotten is nice as well. Nothing from the DB -- except maybe the Shadowy Supplier -- is jumping out at me as being similarly desirable?

Muramasa89

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Are any of the DB passives cool in practice? I really like Clemency from the TG, and Swiftly Forgotten is nice as well. Nothing from the DB -- except maybe the Shadowy Supplier -- is jumping out at me as being similarly desirable?

I only invest in Shadowy Supplier and Shadow Rider (or whatever it's called, the one that reduces enemy aggro if you're mounted). Helps to speed past mobs easier if you're not in the mood for their crap.

POps75p

TG very fast and easy DB as a PIA

lunawisp

I never finished the Thieves Guild quest chain. I stalled at the wedding quest. It drags on and on and on and on and progress isn't saved. If you bail out for any reason, you have to restart it from scratch. A prime example of how not to do story quests like this - they should be short so that everyone has time to do them.

Jacozilla

TG significantly faster, in large part because as you level up - you get TG story missions unlocked which by themselves contribute a large portion of the leveling process.

DB has story missions too, and they also contribute - but not as much and not as many.

In short, to level TG to max, you will have to do some, but not a lot, of the repeatables (the dailies and infinite per day repeatable). For DB, you need to do lot more contract repeatables just to get to next rank level in order to unlock a new story mission.

I started both at same time right after coming back to game with Homestead, and all DLCs were new to me. TG was far faster and easier. But I'd recommend DB start first, get blade of woe, then do TG. BoW makes TG I find lot easier.

tradewith2017

@Bouldercleave
i just checked pickpocketing and safeboxes DIDNT progress into TG

also lootdrop addon showing i got +25 for 2nd TG quest, but in fact my line progressed only +10 =(((

agelonestar

DB can be levelled as quickly as TG, but requires far more effort as fewer things progress the skill line. It's a real pain, actually, as you'll have way more loading screens, running back and forth to Mother's. Essentially, only the dailies, the main quest, and the kill quests progress the skill line.

TG is pretty straightforward as loads of things progress the skill line.