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Removing the Veteran Dungeons from Finder.
joaaocaampos
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Based on your experience with veteran dungeons, do you agree that Zenimax should remove Veteran Dungeons from Dungeon Finder?
Edited by joaaocaampos on April 22, 2017 11:38AM Removing the Veteran Dungeons from Finder. 268 votes
Yes.
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23 votes
No.
91%
245 votes
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Meld777✭✭✭✭✭No.Why? Normal dungeons are solo faceroll (so are some vet dungeons, like Spindle). What's the point of a group then?Maelstrom Arena Champion | Undaunted | Fighters Guild Victor
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alephthiago✭✭✭✭✭No.That is a terrible idea, i have farmed gear countless times with pugs in vet dungeons.Walks-in-Shadowss AD Magblade
*** kitty AD Stamblade
Paarthurnax's Will AD Magicka DK
agnar cracked skull EP Magicka DK (veteran dragonstar arena bot)
Klogi Mugdul AD Stamina DK
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Rex-Umbra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No.Susucessfully completed every veteran dungeon multiple times with the group finder.Xbox GT: Rex Umbrah
GM of IMPERIUM since 2015.3 -
mewcatus✭✭✭No.They shouldn't remove it, but put a forewarning popping when the player queues. "Possible long game ahead!"2
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waterfairy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is going to sound noobish but I thought you queue for whatever you're set to in group (normal or vet) and that every dungeon can be normal or vet, even the 2 version.2 -
Marabornwingrion✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No.There are many better ways to get rid of bad players joining the queue for vet dungeons, like:
- If you want to queue as healer, you need to have resto staff equipped and at least 1 healing ability slotted (similar way with tanks)
- If you want to queue for veteran dungeon, you need to have completed this dungeon on normal mode first
- You need to be at least 160CP
Also some kind of "undaunted training" which would be required before queuing for the first time for dungeon would be great.3 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.I would say: add normal trials to them... but hey I am just saying... xDEdited by Tommy_The_Gun on April 22, 2017 12:25PM6 -
WalksonGraves✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.The only thing they should do is remove dlc dungeons from normal random, throwing low levels into wgt is just dumb.0 -
Houshiki✭✭✭✭No.Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »I would say: add normal trials to them... but hey I am just saying... xD
I love the idea, and it'd make it easier to find trial groups not when your guilds' aren't hosting atm. But, a really big but, I wouldn't want to go into a trial, even normal, with a fake tank actually dps, or a healer hybriding to do dps instead of keeping the group alive, or a dps queuing all roles just to get into a group faster.1 -
Blackbird_V✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.Even with a 4 man parties I queue for vDungeons for the damage boost.Edited by Blackbird_V on April 22, 2017 5:26PMDifficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game.0 -
EvilCroc✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.Not before I'll complete all my "kill X dungeon mobs" achievements. With all my alts.
I mean, bad idea anyway.Edited by EvilCroc on April 22, 2017 1:20PM0 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.WalksonGraves wrote: »The only thing they should do is remove dlc dungeons from normal random, throwing low levels into wgt is just dumb.
I've completed normal WGT with lowbie randoms several times.
I agree they should put it in the 30+ tier though, as it would give new people a chance to explain the other dungeons first.The Moot Councillor0 -
HarlotsLoki✭✭✭No.No, they need to add a minimum cp level for dlc veteran dungeons. Alternatively, players should be able to set the minimum amount of cp they want their team mates to have in veteran auto-finder.
They also need to add trials to the auto-finder, with the same caps or level requirements.2 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.
*sigh* How many times do you all need to hear this.HarlotsLoki wrote: »No, they need to add a minimum cp level for dlc veteran dungeons. Alternatively, players should be able to set the minimum amount of cp they want their team mates to have in veteran auto-finder.
They also need to add trials to the auto-finder, with the same caps or level requirements.
CP =/= Skill, or have you not been to any Dolmen's recently?@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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raglau✭✭✭✭✭No.HarlotsLoki wrote: »No, they need to add a minimum cp level for dlc veteran dungeons. Alternatively, players should be able to set the minimum amount of cp they want their team mates to have in veteran auto-finder.
They also need to add trials to the auto-finder, with the same caps or level requirements.
CP does not equal skill.
Last night, PUGging vets and Darkshade 2 popped. Looked like a good team, me as tank with CP 630 and everyone else high CP, with one DD being CP 732 or something, so a lot of game time under his/her belt, although CP is capped. I noted healer was a Sorc healer but non-DLC vets are so easy for me as a sap-tank I didn't care and in fact welcomed the nice DPS boost from him for the Spider and Netch bosses.
First trash pull, all trash dead in a second or so, no issues and suddenly the CP732 DD said, "I don't play with sorc-healers", and left, followed by the other DD. What the hell? As a DD you should not even be taking damage in a baby dungeon like vet Darkshade 2 and if I, as tank, am happy with my healer, who cares?
That's what a CP barrier can never stop; outright incompetence.
All that vet dungeons need is a, 'has completed dgn on normal-mode' flag, so players can be sure of mechs.
Edited by raglau on April 22, 2017 2:17PM3 -
AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.I pug these things all the time and very rarely have any problems with the group, I don't know where you guys are getting your problems from. You aren't required to use the group finder to make a group for vet dungeons, nor are you unable to use it with a group you have manually formed to queue for bonus content like random daily activities. This is an absolutely pointless poll.
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HarlotsLoki✭✭✭No.HarlotsLoki wrote: »No, they need to add a minimum cp level for dlc veteran dungeons. Alternatively, players should be able to set the minimum amount of cp they want their team mates to have in veteran auto-finder.
They also need to add trials to the auto-finder, with the same caps or level requirements.
CP does not equal skill.
That's what a CP barrier can never stop; outright incompetence.
All that vet dungeons need is a, 'has completed dgn on normal-mode' flag, so players can be sure of mechs.
I completely agree. I can't see them adding the dungeon flag though, which is why I simplified it down to a minimum cp.
I always hope that more cp = more experience, but with the amount of grinding going on, it's not always the case.AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »I pug these things all the time and very rarely have any problems with the group, I don't know where you guys are getting your problems from. You aren't required to use the group finder to make a group for vet dungeons, nor are you unable to use it with a group you have manually formed to queue for bonus content like random daily activities. This is an absolutely pointless poll.
The only way I get to do those dungeons is if I wait in public areas and LFG in zone, even then it's slow going because I'm not max cp which inherently lessens my chances of getting a group from zone chat. Every public match I've went into, someone leaves, or people have no idea of the mechanics which leads to an extremely time consuming play-through, or an eventual drop.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem explaining the mechanics or walking people through content they are unfamiliar with, but I don't want to have to do it every time I want to play it.
Edit: Keep in mind I'm speaking entirely about DLC veteran dungeons, not regular veteran dungeons.Edited by HarlotsLoki on April 22, 2017 3:06PM1
