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Its Okay Guys-I promise
michaelarryn
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I think everyone has been overreacting lately and only has their tunnel vision locked only on what they want to see.
First off, Combat and Sustain has been broken since before One Tamriel. Since the announcement of Morrowind, you can conclude that they have been working on fixing combat since then and even before then. To say ZoS hasn't been listening is completely dumb to say. There are plenty posts complaining about Major Mending and min/max smh builds with unlimited sustain.
Second, these changes look bad on paper for some, but a complete overhaul is in progress to the combat and champion system and it won't just end with Morrowind. Will things still be broken after this patch? Of course, but I envision greater things for the combat system soon.
These changes weren't made at random and some were made to make the game not so easy mode for people anymore. I hate when people say that these guys don't listen when in fact they have all our character data to come to some of the conclusions and decisions they have made. At the end of the day, the combat system is still just a huge math crunch that is attempting to be equal on both sides.
Like your parents used to say "Try it before you say it's bad." No one has played this out yet and there is still two months and a closed beta between the launch of Morrowind. I'm not jumping ship because there's a storm in the horizon.
First off, Combat and Sustain has been broken since before One Tamriel. Since the announcement of Morrowind, you can conclude that they have been working on fixing combat since then and even before then. To say ZoS hasn't been listening is completely dumb to say. There are plenty posts complaining about Major Mending and min/max smh builds with unlimited sustain.
Second, these changes look bad on paper for some, but a complete overhaul is in progress to the combat and champion system and it won't just end with Morrowind. Will things still be broken after this patch? Of course, but I envision greater things for the combat system soon.
These changes weren't made at random and some were made to make the game not so easy mode for people anymore. I hate when people say that these guys don't listen when in fact they have all our character data to come to some of the conclusions and decisions they have made. At the end of the day, the combat system is still just a huge math crunch that is attempting to be equal on both sides.
Like your parents used to say "Try it before you say it's bad." No one has played this out yet and there is still two months and a closed beta between the launch of Morrowind. I'm not jumping ship because there's a storm in the horizon.
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D0ntevenL1ft✭✭✭✭✭So im assuming you have extensively tested all the changes on PTS? Or have you just negated your entire "try it before you say its bad" comment by saying its okay without any testing.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's always like this, although I will say the P2W(arden) campaign is getting a lot more traction this time around.
People are always against change in any way, and ZOS do make very controversial changes so I understand the outburst.
I just wish people would stop regurgitating what streamers have said, stop spreading the P2W rumours and myths, and make a choice to either pack up and leave because this isn't their game any more or suck it up and ride through to see how it works.
Some will adapt over the next months and keep on going, they'll continue to have fun where they find it. Some will leave and be bitter, but FML I just want this drama over and we're only on day four.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."1 -
colig✭✭✭✭ISome will adapt over the next months and keep on going, they'll continue to have fun where they find it. Some will leave and be bitter, but FML I just want this drama over and we're only on day four.
When is an appropriate time for people to stop complaining? You're just going to have to weather it, it seems.1 -
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✭✭✭I'd like to hear more from the people actually playing on the PTS.
Not blind opinion from typical forum Dubstep420swag who has no basis.Of course I like steak. I'm a Nord, aren't I?
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I don't mind complaints if they followed by some kind of structured argument.ISome will adapt over the next months and keep on going, they'll continue to have fun where they find it. Some will leave and be bitter, but FML I just want this drama over and we're only on day four.
When is an appropriate time for people to stop complaining? You're just going to have to weather it, it seems.
ZOS YOU'RE RUINING THE GAME WITH YOUR STUPID P2WARDEN!!! in every thread and nothing actually useful to read or understand why is what I am getting sick of.
I have friends who are picking every single minor issue they find now and twisting it into the "ZO$ is going P2W and hates veteran players!" argument.
I mean, I was told by a friend that ZOS is insulting players because the crafting skill lines on PTS are not max when you unlock them. I mean... WTF that's just them being derpy not some epic evil conspiracy.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I'd like to hear more from the people actually playing on the PTS.
Not blind opinion from typical forum Dubstep420swag who has no basis.
How insulting
I'll have you know Dubstep420swag was my nickname in college."If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."1 -
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✭✭Some of the changes are also being put in place for changes they know are coming down the road as well. You can't always put in everything you want. As well they might have two possible ways to take a change and want to get data with a more over arching change before they tune something more.0 -
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✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I'd like to hear more from the people actually playing on the PTS.
Not blind opinion from typical forum Dubstep420swag who has no basis.
How insulting
I'll have you know Dubstep420swag was my nickname in college.
Dang, I'm sorry. Your friends must really hate you.
Of course I like steak. I'm a Nord, aren't I?
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✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I'd like to hear more from the people actually playing on the PTS.
Not blind opinion from typical forum Dubstep420swag who has no basis.
How insulting
I'll have you know Dubstep420swag was my nickname in college.
Dang, I'm sorry. Your friends must really hate you.
It only hurt when they called me Skrillex
"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRFhNZNu_xw