How do you feel about the direction of the game?

PapaSlatch

Based on the proposed changes on PTS. I'm mostly just looking for poll numbers, but please feel free to leave your reasoning for your answer.

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Turelus

I agree with the changes.

I think ZOS has given their idea of what they want with ESO (resource management return) and are working to make sure that happens. Some changes look very painful and I will be testing to see how bad they are and try to adapt should they go live as they are now.

I don't believe that ZOS deliberately nerfed classes to push sales on the Warden. I think they just made some undesired changes and people jump to conclusions which has lead to others now pushing this as a reason with no evidence of that.

Whilst I believe ZOS make a lot of mistakes and butt headed choices I don't believe the developers are that malicious as to screw their entire player base for a few more sales. Let's face it Morrowind sold like hot cakes well before these nerfs, so if more money was their agenda this only harmed that goal no pushed it forwards.

ParaNostram

Personally when I first read the patch notes I found myself nodding and agreeing with the changes. This was long before I read anything else on the forum. Some of the numbers might need adjusting, that's common for any changes and that's why we have the PTS, but it all makes sense to me. (Templars might need more love though)

(before anyone says "well that's because you're a sorc" that character is my main for RP reasons)

darkstar2084

nerf to champ points understandable, other stuff makes me want to break stuff

Vrienda

As someone who doesn't really care about class balance or stuff like that I'm happy and optimistic about ESO's future.

That said it would be nice if they acted on the issues others have with the new resource system they're gunning for.

Uriel_Nocturne

I do not agree with any of the changes.

This whole patch is going to be a cancer for this game. There is not a single good aspect about it.

Turelus

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

I do not agree with any of the changes.

This whole patch is going to be a cancer for this game. There is not a single good aspect about it.

That feet following the floor thing is pretty neat... just sayin.

Ghettokid

I cannot describe my feelings by myself, so I listed few famous 80's songs that may tell you something about what I'm thinking:

"Livin' on a Prayer" by Bon Jovi (1986)
"Pour Some Sugar On Me" by Def Leppard (1987)
"Hungry Like the Wolf" by Duran Duran (1982)
"Billie Jean" by Michael Jackson (1982)
"When Doves Cry" by Prince (1984)
"I Can't Go For That (No Can Do)" by Hall & Oates (1981)
"Sweet Child O' Mine" by Guns N' Roses (1987)
"Like a Virgin" by Madonna (1984)
"Walk This Way" by Run DMC (1986)
"You Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC (1980)
"Don't Stop Believing" by Journey (1981)
"How Will I Know" by Whitney Houston (1985)
"With Or Without You" by U2 (1987)
"Walk Like an Egyptian" by The Bangles (1986)
"Jump" by Van Halen (1984)
"Need You Tonight" by INXS (1987)
"Here I Go Again" by Whitesnake (1982)
"Come On Eileen" by Dexy's Midnight Runners (1982)
"Time After Time" by Cyndi Lauper (1984)
"Jessie's Girl" by Rick Springfield (1981)
"Beat It" by Michael Jackson (1982)
"Just Like Heaven" by The Cure (1987)
"Girls Just Want to Have Fun" by Cyndi Lauper (1984)
"Take On Me" by A-Ha (1985)
"Our Lips Are Sealed" by the Go-Go's (1981)
"Welcome to the Jungle" by Guns N' Roses (1987)
"Too Shy" by Kajagoogoo (1984)
"Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" by Wham! (1984)
"Burning Down the House" by Talking Heads (1983)
"Love is a Battlefield" by Pat Benatar (1983)
"Under Pressure" by Queen and David Bowie (1981)
"Sister Christian" by Night Ranger (1983)
"Tainted Love" by Soft Cell (1981)
"Every Rose Has It's Thorn" by Poison(1988)
"In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins (1981)
"867-5309/Jenny" by Tommy Tutone (1981)
"Janie's Got a Gun" by Aerosmith (1989)
"Pride (In the Name of Love)" by U2 (1984)
"I Melt With You" by Modern English (1982)
"Love Shack" by The B-52's (1989)
"Dr. Feelgood" by Mötley Crüe (1989)
"London Calling" by The Clash (1982)
"Look of Love" by ABC (1982)
"Cruel Summer" by Bananarama (1984)
"Nasty" by Janet Jackson (1986)
"Every Breath You Take" by The Police (1983)
"We're Not Gonna Take It" by Twisted Sister (1984)
"Born in the U.S.A." by Bruce Springsteen (1984)
"Fight For Your Right" by Beastie Boys (1986)
"Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" by Eurythmics (1983)
"Round and Round" by Ratt (1984)
"You Spin Me Round (Like A Record)" by Dead or Alive (1985)
"White Wedding" by Billy Idol (1988)
"Push It" by Salt-N-Pepa (1986)
"I Ran (So Far Away)" by A Flock of Seagulls (1982)
"Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler (1983)
"Mickey" by Toni Basil (1981)
"Do You Really Want to Hurt Me" by Culture Club (1982)
"Jack & Diane" by John Mellencamp (1982)
"Bust a Move" by Young M.C. (1989)
"Mr. Roboto" by Styx (1983)
"Take My Breath Away" by Berlin (1986)
"Whip It" by Devo (1980)
"Straight Up" by Paula Abdul (1988)
"I Want to Know What Love Is" by Foreigner (1984)
"Just Can't Get Enough" by Depeche Mode (1981)
"Keep On Loving You" by REO Speedwagon (1980)
"Fight the Power" by Public Enemy (1988)
"It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine)" by R.E.M. (1980)
"I Love Rock N' Roll" by Joan Jett & the Blackhearts (1981)
"Super Freak" by Rick James (1981)
"One Thing Leads to Another" by The Fixx (1983)
"99 Luftballons" by Nena (1983)
"Faith" by George Michael (1987)
"Little Red Corvette" by Prince (1983)
"She Blinded Me With Science" by Thomas Dolby (1982)
"Candy Girl" by New Edition (1983)
"Call Me" by Blondie (1980)
"Don't You Want Me?" by Human League (1981)
"It Takes Two" by Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock (1988)
"Word Up!" by Cameo (1986)
"Tempted" by Squeeze (1981)
"Kiss" by Prince (1986)
"All Night Long (All Night)" by Lionel Richie (1983)
"Addicted to Love" by Robert Palmer (1985)
"I Want Candy" by Bow Wow Wow (1982)
"Rock Me Amadeus" by Falco (1986)
"Ain't Nobody" by Chaka Khan (1989)
"Brass in Pocket" by The Pretenders (1980)
"Wild Thing" by Tone-Loc (1989)
"Walking On Sunshine" by Katrina and the Waves (1983)
"You Got It (The Right Stuff)" by the New Kids on the Block (1988)
"Cars" by Gary Numan (1980)
"Start Me Up" by the Rolling Stones (1981)
"Only in My Dreams" by Debbie Gibson (1987)
"Down Under" by Men at Work (1982)
"What I Like About You" by The Romantics (1980)
"My Perogative" by Bobby Brown (1988)
"Everybody Have Fun Tonight" by *** Chung (1986)
"Working for the Weekend" by Loverboy (1981)

[Edit to compress this mixtape into a spoiler box]

Dark_Aether

I agree with nerfing sustain but ZOS is like a teenager you ask to get the car in the garage but it ends up in the living room with the wall promptly removed.

Seriously, no need to nerf everything to the ground. How about you start with CP and see where it goes from there.

Nutshotz

All I have to say is the direction of the game is gonna make or break. Hello star citizen and Camelot unchained

Turelus

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

All I have to say is the direction of the game is gonna make or break. Hello star citizen and Camelot unchained

Not sure what will come first Star Citizen release or perfect balance of classes in ESO.

TheBonesXXX

I like Turelus' comment, I agree I tend to think theyre developing from the heart and soul.

But.. Developing from the heart and soul only.

"Buttheaded choices"

Korah_Eaglecry

These changes are being rejected by a lot of people. And its not just here. PTS and Reddit is on fire right now. And typically when theres this level of rejection across different media platforms. Its not some typical pushback over change. This is much bigger than that. When you have long standing very visible players, whom normally side with ZOS, taking a step back and questioning their future with a game. It might be time for the ever vigilant fans to start questioning things a little more.

This whole situation went from "ZOOOMMG WE'RE GOING BACK TO MORROWIND!!!" to "THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING".....And across numerous sites and medias.......Thats a very big red flag that things are off here. You dont get this kind of fallout followed by such a massive hypetrain. This is the community on a larger scale than just here on Gen D shifting from its position of being supportive to rejection.

Now this isnt to say that players are going to leave in droves. This isnt the end is nigh but this is not the kind of attention ZOS wants on their upcoming release. And if they dont do something to mend their relationship with the community. Long term, what ever momentum ZOS had coming out of One Tamriel will be lost.

Morimizo

Dark_Aether wrote: »

I agree with nerfing sustain but ZOS is like a teenager you ask to get the car in the garage but it ends up in the living room with the wall promptly removed.

Seriously, no need to nerf everything to the ground. How about you start with CP and see where it goes from there.

I'm surprised they didn't implement "The Wiffle Bat Exchange Program" since the swords are too sharp by far, and make everyone an extreme asthmatic in a raging Alik'r sandstorm that can't swing the thing more than once every 30 seconds without passing out.

Oh, and jumping should take magicka like roll-dodging takes stamina. It's MAGIC after all. Take that, Sorcs!

Balamoor

So....so far 53% either like, like some or really don't care.

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

These changes are being rejected by a lot of people. And its not just here. PTS and Reddit is on fire right now. And typically when theres this level of rejection across different media platforms. Its not some typical pushback over change. This is much bigger than that. When you have long standing very visible players, whom normally side with ZOS, taking a step back and questioning their future with a game. It might be time for the ever vigilant fans to start questioning things a little more.

This whole situation went from "ZOOOMMG WE'RE GOING BACK TO MORROWIND!!!" to "THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING".....And across numerous sites and medias.......Thats a very big red flag that things are off here. You dont get this kind of fallout followed by such a massive hypetrain. This is the community on a larger scale than just here on Gen D shifting from its position of being supportive to rejection.

Now this isnt to say that players are going to leave in droves. This isnt the end is nigh but this is not the kind of attention ZOS wants on their upcoming release. And if they dont do something to mend their relationship with the community. Long term, what ever momentum ZOS had coming out of One Tamriel will be lost.

Reddit is always on fire with ZoS bashing nothing new there, as far as the PTS goes, nothing new there either.

I think the teeth gnashing is more noise and dog piling than anything else, but we will see.

Cêltic421

I don't like the changes. I've cancelled both my collectors edition cause I'm not sure how I will like this game after I play for awhile when changes go live so I didn't want to dish out $200 to support something I'm questioning about. We will see...

TheStealthDude

I agree with the direction.

I feel like the changes made will make the game more challenging which, to me, makes it more enjoyable.

I haven't ordered Morrowind yet, but probably will get it soon.

Korah_Eaglecry

Balamoor wrote: »

So....so far 53% either like, like some or really don't care.

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

These changes are being rejected by a lot of people. And its not just here. PTS and Reddit is on fire right now. And typically when theres this level of rejection across different media platforms. Its not some typical pushback over change. This is much bigger than that. When you have long standing very visible players, whom normally side with ZOS, taking a step back and questioning their future with a game. It might be time for the ever vigilant fans to start questioning things a little more.

This whole situation went from "ZOOOMMG WE'RE GOING BACK TO MORROWIND!!!" to "THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING".....And across numerous sites and medias.......Thats a very big red flag that things are off here. You dont get this kind of fallout followed by such a massive hypetrain. This is the community on a larger scale than just here on Gen D shifting from its position of being supportive to rejection.

Now this isnt to say that players are going to leave in droves. This isnt the end is nigh but this is not the kind of attention ZOS wants on their upcoming release. And if they dont do something to mend their relationship with the community. Long term, what ever momentum ZOS had coming out of One Tamriel will be lost.

Reddit is always on fire with ZoS bashing nothing new there, as far as the PTS goes, nothing new there either.

I think the teeth gnashing is more noise and dog piling than anything else, but we will see.

Reddit is far more calm regarding changes in general than here. I dont know where you get that they are always freaking out when the majority of the posts there are **** posts or players asking for help since theyre new. Youre either being dishonest here or youve never been to the sub over on reddit.

As for PTS, that place might have some drama every update, thats expected but this isnt the usual drama by a long shot. But by all means, keep you head in the sand. Im sure its everyone else thats just acting irrationally and youre the sane one.

Goshua

Band aid fixes for a system that shouldn't exist. People will adapt but the system still remains.

How to best adapt to the changes IMO?
Start a new character that you have no experience with or expectations from..
.. Warden.
.. Buy Morrowind.
This is all it amounts to in my opinion.

I don't feel strongly about it, it's not going to change what I do in game a great deal. I don't pvp or do trials, so the only question I need to answer is do i want a new environment to do what I do anyway and pay for it.

jedtb16_ESO

i'm happy with the way things are going.

breakdown.....

i paid zos/bethesda to play this game because i have played previous games from this outlet and enjoyed them. i see nothing to change that view.

idk

I think we will adjust just fine.

Didn't answer in the poll since polls in the forum are meaningless since the sample never represents the player base.

xeNNNNN

The direction they are going in due to this disgusting mentality of "unified game" via unified balanced is frustrating and will derail the game if it continues. It is not the end of the game nor the end of the world but this foolish attitude ZoS have to towing the line with their PR bs of a unified and seemless game is bs.

They NEED to start balancing the game seperately and soon.

Balamoor

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Balamoor wrote: »

So....so far 53% either like, like some or really don't care.

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

These changes are being rejected by a lot of people. And its not just here. PTS and Reddit is on fire right now. And typically when theres this level of rejection across different media platforms. Its not some typical pushback over change. This is much bigger than that. When you have long standing very visible players, whom normally side with ZOS, taking a step back and questioning their future with a game. It might be time for the ever vigilant fans to start questioning things a little more.

This whole situation went from "ZOOOMMG WE'RE GOING BACK TO MORROWIND!!!" to "THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING".....And across numerous sites and medias.......Thats a very big red flag that things are off here. You dont get this kind of fallout followed by such a massive hypetrain. This is the community on a larger scale than just here on Gen D shifting from its position of being supportive to rejection.

Now this isnt to say that players are going to leave in droves. This isnt the end is nigh but this is not the kind of attention ZOS wants on their upcoming release. And if they dont do something to mend their relationship with the community. Long term, what ever momentum ZOS had coming out of One Tamriel will be lost.

Reddit is always on fire with ZoS bashing nothing new there, as far as the PTS goes, nothing new there either.

I think the teeth gnashing is more noise and dog piling than anything else, but we will see.

Reddit is far more calm regarding changes in general than here. I dont know where you get that they are always freaking out when the majority of the posts there are **** posts or players asking for help since theyre new. Youre either being dishonest here or youve never been to the sub over on reddit.

As for PTS, that place might have some drama every update, thats expected but this isnt the usual drama by a long shot. But by all means, keep you head in the sand. Im sure its everyone else thats just acting irrationally and youre the sane one.

Dude....your'e hyperbole is at 9000, and taking shots at me personally isn't going to advance your narrative. But by all means continue I'm sure other people are enjoying the spectacle you're making.

RT_Frank

TheStealthDude wrote: »

I agree with the direction.

I feel like the changes made will make the game more challenging which, to me, makes it more enjoyable.

I haven't ordered Morrowind yet, but probably will get it soon.

I agree with the whole more challenges=more excitement but this is definitely not the way to go. Basically, instead of being like "hey guys the game is too easy so let's increase the difficulty of the new trial and new areas" they just nerfed almost everything. And the almost here is key because they didn't even make the game pseudo-challenging by nerfing everything, just dks, nbs, and especially temps while still putting sorcs on easy mode. The changes as a whole is just a big mess...

ArchMikem

It's their game, and ZOS is a company. For profit. They wouldn't intentionally make decisions that would tank their game and thus tank profits.

Draxys

I think if I still had any hope for this game to be the pinnacle of gaming fun that it was for me a couple years ago, I would have voted disagree. But this is par for the course concerning ESO ever since the 1.6 overhaul. Homogenization and giving crutches to the players who put no effort into playing the game efficiently (let alone "well".) Unfortunately, those players likely make up the vast majority of ZOS' paying customers, so I don't blame them at this point, really.

Didaco

I agree with almost every change in the patch notes... Of course the one I dislike the most is the resource cost, it's too hard.
Imho along with the resource management nerf they should have made some core skills a lil bit more cheap... I'm looking at those poor mDK, they should have had at least a reliable spammable and some other "cheap" utility...

THEDKEXPERIENCE

I'll survive. It's not perfect but few things in life are.

Well ... except for tacos. Tacos are.

LordSock

$80 for a 2 zone expansion is redonkulous.

Spaghettiknight

Hate the changes and P2W. Don't completely nerf everything to *** and pretend it's for "balance".

TheStealthDude wrote: »

I agree with the direction.

I feel like the changes made will make the game more challenging which, to me, makes it more enjoyable.

I haven't ordered Morrowind yet, but probably will get it soon.

Two words. Veteran content.