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I'm with developers decisions

teladoy
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I'm with Devs.

The people usually attack Developers in almost every decision they take. This is something really bad in my opinion, but is something that happens and it will continue happening and sadly Devs have to deal with it.

Is bad because Devs decisions are very well meditate and are based on their own designed game, with all the documentation, code, testing, and brainstorming they have, that in comparison with our feedback that is based in only our experience as users is very much important. I'm not saying feedback from users is not.

People should not rage!! This is immature and the best thing is write constructive feedbacks and suggestions in a very calm way. Can't be that in only 24hs there are al ready so many posts of the same and so many terrible judgments without test anything.

Devs decision are not fix and they are always aware in reconsider anything if there is enough evidence of a mistake on them.

My opinion is that is necessary to make a change and help Devs not attacking, not insulting, not threatening them with leave the game, but helping from patience and feedbacks. If you want to leave go trough the door without do a scandal like little boy, say your opinion if you want and leave if you have the balls. Because we know that most of us only have a big mouth and the nuts are small, without offense.
Edited by teladoy on April 19, 2017 2:26PM
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  • Destyran
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    Lol. I doubt they do anytesting.
  • Didgerion
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    What's a constructive feedback?

    Why do you assume that your standard is everyone's standard. The rage of one person might be not rage at all but a constructive feedback.

    The rage is a feedback too. Please feel free to rage if you fill like it.
  • Beardimus
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    Agreed. Forum loves to light up about this kinda gig. But the majority will still be here on Morrowind and will adapt and over come. (and ones that 'leave' will still come to forum daily - oddly)

    i'm chilled as my more niche build got rekt in U13, so I've yet to sort my v2, so I can plan with U14 in mind :)

    But I agree that its 100% not the dev's fault, and they make decisions based on all the facts - which we don't have.

    That said I still hate Proc sets :)
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  • teladoy
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Lol. I doubt they do anytesting.
    Destyran wrote: »
    Lol. I doubt they do anytesting.

    So you are also laughing about yourself and all of us, because any of us has also tested nothing.
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    Internet tough guys are out in force lately.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    So its true, odds existed sometime b/w thousands!
  • teladoy
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    What's a constructive feedback?

    Why do you assume that your standard is everyone's standard. The rage of one person might be not rage at all but a constructive feedback.

    The rage is a feedback too. Please feel free to rage if you fill like it.

    Sorry to tell you but in a civilized society and in a structured company you would never have success if that is your mentality
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  • Kay1
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    teladoy wrote: »
    Is bad because Devs decisions are very well meditate and are based on their own designed game, with all the documentation, code, testing, and brainstorming they have.

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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Good job OP.

    The only people getting kneecapped by this PROPOSED update (not the official one mind you) are those who have conformed to group think build ideas like you have to have X regen while also refusing to use alternate ways to achieve the same result.

    For example: Templars have no major mending! Oh the humanity ... except they actually have minor minding and can heavy attack a resto staff to get major mending to proc. This of course actually leaves you with both major and minor mending therefore increasing your heals from before. The argument against this is either a) I shouldn't have to be forced into using a staff or b) using a heavy attack will lower my groups DPS. To those I say, oh darn.

    Personally I run a Magplar with only 745 magic regen. When I get cut down to 500ish, I'll play for a few days and see if I need to adjust. Way better for my blood pressure than ranting like a crazy person on these forums.
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    I'm not raging. Disappointed yeah, because this game has so much potential. But not raging.
    That said, I will most likely not be playing if these changes go through. I'm so burned out on the grind for a sharpened Necro staff that I haven't logged in to the game for about 3 weeks anyway. So this isn't really an I'm leaving post, it's an I'm not likely to come back post.

    I've downloaded the pts and I'll see for myself. If sustain is nerfed to the point where it isn't fun, to where I can't sustain in sustain gear while being fed shards/orbs, or can't sustain myself running my quests solo, I won't be playing (not ESO, anyway). No threat. No rage. Just a statement of fact.
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    Beardimus wrote: »

    But I agree that its 100% not the dev's fault, and they make decisions based on all the facts - which we don't have.

    Oh man you are so wrong here.

    It is not the dev's 100% fault that's true but it is definitely a devs fault too. And it will be our(community) fault too if this makes it to live.

    The devs has an opinion on the game too and they discuss it internally. Are devs agree with this new changes? I guess not all of them - did they do their best to express their thoughts to their managers?

    Do managers agree with this changes? did they do all the best to express it to their directors?

    The devs should like their product and if they believe that it is going the wrong way and they keep doing it than it is wrong or they are getting a very good remuneration and they stay quietly which is a fault as well.

    So yeah this is everyone's fault if it makes it to live (including ours).
    Edited by Didgerion on April 19, 2017 2:57PM
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    I like the upcoming patch, too. There are many quality of life additions and changes, most of them good. Not all. Hope the bad ones doesn't go through.
  • Didgerion
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    teladoy wrote: »
    Didgerion wrote: »
    What's a constructive feedback?

    Why do you assume that your standard is everyone's standard. The rage of one person might be not rage at all but a constructive feedback.

    The rage is a feedback too. Please feel free to rage if you fill like it.

    Sorry to tell you but in a civilized society and in a structured company you would never have success if that is your mentality

    Again, you have the whole world in here lots of cocietes lots of standards, the thing that you qualify as rage is a normal way to express in other societies - calling them uncivilized is wrong.
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    teladoy wrote: »
    People should not rage!! This is immature and the best thing is write constructive feedbacks and suggestions in a very calm way


    Even writing costructive updates and well thought changes in a very calm way wouldn't be so bad, after all...
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    @teladoy unless your testing on pts, even just base game, then I'd like to ask what did you base your opinion on?
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    What's a constructive feedback?

    Why do you assume that your standard is everyone's standard. The rage of one person might be not rage at all but a constructive feedback.

    The rage is a feedback too. Please feel free to rage if you fill like it.

    Rage isn't considered constructive feedback and rarely carry anywhere near the weight of clearly written feedback.
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