Stam NB PVE Patch 3

gediv2

Anybody have an idea what impact Morrowind will have an PVE Stam Nightblades? I solo a lot (open world sets normal 4 mans) and run less than ideal groups in 4 man dungeons.

Thanks.

Lord_Eomer

Who are NB in PVE?

Kay1

Nightblades?

Don't know that class

Godeko

Nightblades?
You should only know these 3:
Tank: Dk
Heal: mag temp. (Even tho it got nerfed)
DD: mag scorc
Wild card: warden

Forget about the rest

Lord_Eomer

Godeko wrote: »

Nightblades?
You should only know these 3:
Tank: Dk
Heal: mag temp. (Even tho it got nerfed)
DD: mag scorc
Wild card: warden

Forget about the rest

Exactly!

NB becomes worst DPS, Tank or Healers.

They just lived up as Ganker @ Cyrodil

Izaki

No I don't think its nearly as apocalyptic as people here on the forums make it seem. I think that the Caltrops buff will definitely benefit us in AoE and Cleave damage situations while the single target DPS will stay more or less the same (most likely a slight buff). So overall, for every stamina class its looking pretty good, currently not enough to give up a magicka DPS spot, but I'm sure that by the time PTS is done (aka 1.5 months) we'll have some nice changes coming. The change to Leeching Strikes looks pretty good, depending on whether the heal is significant (which I hope it is) and the increased duration is awesome too, we'll definitely be the best sustaining class in the game even more than currently on live. Remember that all stamina builds have access to an extremely powerful sustain/damage set: Vicious Ophidian. That paired with Leeching Strikes should net us some outstanding sustain compared to other classes.

So sustain wise, stamina nightblade is without a doubt the best stamina class.

Damage wise, I believe that a change to Relentless Focus/Merciless Resolve will come sometime later in the PTS and that will greatly help us with our DPS.

Just my personal thoughts on the stamina nightblade next patch.

Strider_Roshin

There will be more changes to come. Let's wait, and see.

casparian

NB becomes worst DPS, Tank or Healers.

Definitely not. This patch is the biggest buff to magblade healing there has ever been (thanks to the Orbs change). The one healing tool missing from our toolkit has been given to us. (I know we have no native access to Major Mending, but that's already not a big deal, and in the upcoming patch all healers be throwing out resto heavies a lot more often anyway.)

Saptanks have been nerfed with the Siphoning Attacks change, but I'm not convinced they'll be the worst. We'll still have better all-resource sustain as tanks than Templars will.

Not sure about DPS. Nothing yet has made magNB rise above the other magDPS classes in PVE, but we'll see if further changes come. With the sustain changes and Templar nerfs, I'm expecting stamNB to be better than stamplar in PVE content now.

Arrchangell

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

No I don't think its nearly as apocalyptic as people here on the forums make it seem. I think that the Caltrops buff will definitely benefit us in AoE and Cleave damage situations while the single target DPS will stay more or less the same (most likely a slight buff). So overall, for every stamina class its looking pretty good, currently not enough to give up a magicka DPS spot, but I'm sure that by the time PTS is done (aka 1.5 months) we'll have some nice changes coming. The change to Leeching Strikes looks pretty good, depending on whether the heal is significant (which I hope it is) and the increased duration is awesome too, we'll definitely be the best sustaining class in the game even more than currently on live. Remember that all stamina builds have access to an extremely powerful sustain/damage set: Vicious Ophidian. That paired with Leeching Strikes should net us some outstanding sustain compared to other classes.

So sustain wise, stamina nightblade is without a doubt the best stamina class.

Damage wise, I believe that a change to Relentless Focus/Merciless Resolve will come sometime later in the PTS and that will greatly help us with our DPS.

Just my personal thoughts on the stamina nightblade next patch.

The current siphoning is 1k stamina+magicka with 10% for 2k stamina+magicka on homestead update, on PTS:
1550 hp + 396 stamina on light/heavy attack. The stamina got hit pretty hard really hard.

gediv2

I cancelled my preorder. I was waiting to see what buffs they'd give medium armor/stam nightblades next big patch. Holy Tamoly Batman, I can't believe they nerfed both again. I'm going to monitor the forums to see if any smart theorycrafters can give me hope, but if that doesn't happen...I'm out.

Strider_Roshin

Arrchangell wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

No I don't think its nearly as apocalyptic as people here on the forums make it seem. I think that the Caltrops buff will definitely benefit us in AoE and Cleave damage situations while the single target DPS will stay more or less the same (most likely a slight buff). So overall, for every stamina class its looking pretty good, currently not enough to give up a magicka DPS spot, but I'm sure that by the time PTS is done (aka 1.5 months) we'll have some nice changes coming. The change to Leeching Strikes looks pretty good, depending on whether the heal is significant (which I hope it is) and the increased duration is awesome too, we'll definitely be the best sustaining class in the game even more than currently on live. Remember that all stamina builds have access to an extremely powerful sustain/damage set: Vicious Ophidian. That paired with Leeching Strikes should net us some outstanding sustain compared to other classes.

So sustain wise, stamina nightblade is without a doubt the best stamina class.

Damage wise, I believe that a change to Relentless Focus/Merciless Resolve will come sometime later in the PTS and that will greatly help us with our DPS.

Just my personal thoughts on the stamina nightblade next patch.

The current siphoning is 1k stamina+magicka with 10% for 2k stamina+magicka on homestead update, on PTS:
1550 hp + 396 stamina on light/heavy attack. The stamina got hit pretty hard really hard.

So another words it's not worth casting since you'll spend more that you'll receive throughout its duration? Well that needs to change.

Tholian1

I guess that is one way to retire a class. By making it completely undesirable to play.

NBs needed a buff in PvE.

FlyLionel

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Godeko wrote: »

Nightblades?
You should only know these 3:
Tank: Dk
Heal: mag temp. (Even tho it got nerfed)
DD: mag scorc
Wild card: warden

Forget about the rest

Exactly!

NB becomes worst DPS, Tank or Healers.

They just lived up as Ganker @ Cyrodil

Actually ganking got nerfed, no more bonus damage sooooo yeah. Our buff was caltrops....that every other stamina character gets. Um, the only thing you can say atm is that the pts just started. Hold on fellow NBs.

Shadzilla

Well behind stam sorcs and stam dks. Along with all other magicka classes.