Let's make Velastrus, Bruma and other daily quest cyro hubs free of violence!

Kneighbors

After all we are all for quests\farming there. Anyone coming there for AP must be pretty much wasting his time.

Personally I'm never starting a fight there. Only when I see someone really obsessed with trying to kill me I enter a fight.

I feel miserable tearing a new one in a cp10 pve fella with my invincible to him pvp cp600 build in those places.

KingJ

No its a PVP Zone.

Kneighbors

KingJ wrote: »

No its a PVP Zone.

Only because developers opened this zone for a PvP doesn't makes it mandatory for you to fight on sight there.

Like there's water in toilet basin, but you don't have to drink it if you are not too thirsty.

Argawarga

Kneighbors wrote: »

After all we are all for quests\farming there. Anyone coming there for AP must be pretty much wasting his time.

Personally I'm never starting a fight there. Only when I see someone really obsessed with trying to kill me I enter a fight.

I feel miserable tearing a new one in a cp10 pve fella with my invincible to him pvp cp600 build in those places.

Sorry but no. It's a blast to fight in these places. They don't resemble keeps at all. Ever turn in a quest only to find there's an enemy doing the same thing? Good times.

Tan9oSuccka

No, probably won't happen. Try hards will attack on sight.

It's a war zone. At least they aren't in Mournhold screaming "duel me brah!" Over mic/chat.

Sigtric

Kneighbors wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

No its a PVP Zone.

Only because developers opened this zone for a PvP doesn't makes it mandatory for you to fight on sight there.

Like there's water in toilet basin, but you don't have to drink it if you are not too thirsty.

Some folks don't KoS, but you're in the designated war zone. Be prepared for it or don't be there.

Glamdring

OP stop trolling

disintegr8

You don't have to go there.

LadyLavina

Kneighbors wrote: »

After all we are all for quests\farming there. Anyone coming there for AP must be pretty much wasting his time.

Personally I'm never starting a fight there. Only when I see someone really obsessed with trying to kill me I enter a fight.

I feel miserable tearing a new one in a cp10 pve fella with my invincible to him pvp cp600 build in those places.

lol

but nope. bad idea, dead horse, and not going to happen.

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Kneighbors

Dunno with all "not going to happen" talk. I'm on PC EU and 2 out of 3 players don't engage me when I'm there seeing I'm not interested in a fighting. Again, I know how to PvP having 2 builds specially for that. But it just ain't seems a right thing to do there. I'm coming there to kick my 10 quests fast and go for next zone.

KochDerDamonen

as mainly a PvE player...

if I'm in Cyrodiil, and I see an enemy I'm probably going to look for a fight. One time I left a strange pair go on their way, two one EP and one AD, both wearing the same costume (imperial dress?) and riding the elk, slowly walking across the countryside.


So if you want to be left alone, do that

GrumpyDuckling

I liked the fighting at towns before flags were put in. Towns used to be a fun place for some small scale PVP, but now it's too common for zergs to capture and protect towns as respawn points. Towns, pre-flag, were my last memory of fun, consistent small scale.

And forget about Imperial City for small scale. It has just become zerg trains farming the bosses and mowing down everyone they see. I don't hate zergs, they have their place, but I hate that zerging has become so common in every area.

Magdalina

Personally I don't go there for ap(well...not one made off killing pve-ers anyway) but in hopes of some small scale(does happen quite a bit) and/or in order to secure an approach to a keep, either my alliance's one(to defend) or another alliance's one(to attack). I kind of like them now having a pvp point.

If I see someone PvE-ing in the town I'm trying to flip I'll probably try to get them to leave without killing them. If after that they attack me in the back(like most of them peaceful PvE-ers do for some reason), well...they asked for it

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Ok I get the whole "he's just a nubby nub cake leave him be" argument.

Usually I do but what irks me is that if you was that poor little noob would the mighty player leave you be? No, guaranteed over 90% of high lvl players would laugh and kill the noob, so why should you be the exception?

The noob would kill you if he could, remember that when you let him live.
I let them live.

Long ago back when Vr16 was a thing, a level 40 noob attacked me. I killed him in Bruma, he returned but this time didn't attack so I showed mercy and passed them multiple times without killing them.
We did the Bruma dolmen together... while in the quest giver area, in my pause menu, I start getting attacked. No problem I thought I'll let him be, he can't possibly kill me.... then I realised a mini Zerg of vr16 players (5 of them was attacking me), me being a squishy medium armour stamblade confined to the room with no pre buffs up or able to LoS properly, I died of course.
The level 40 noob was 1st to teabag me, they all teabagged me
Then they had a party, one playing the flute, others dancing etc all on my corpse. I went afk for 10 min and they was still there
The level 40 noob sent me a message along the lines of " don't mess with the wrong person you lowlife, I got ppl to back me up, you curse-word) I just sent a LOL reply and blocked him.

Moral of story - don't trust noobs.

Kay1

Everytime I get there I get zerged by groups of 7 players that are not very PvP expert, I try to be cool ignoring them but they try to kill me and they chase me for 2h so I just 1vX them.

I will never understand why they need to focus on me that much.

hmsdragonfly

Some how they always open fire xD It's ok, 2k APs for me.

Sneaky-Snurr

Not possibru!

IcyDeadPeople

Used to be that way for a lot of us back when there was nothing good to spend your AP on. Now people are trying to earn enough to buy monster helm, etc.

Rohamad_Ali

EU PVP needs its own sub forum .

ArchMikem

I feel for you. I've wanted this before too. But too many PvPlayers are stuck in their ways about it. Safe zones within Cyrodiil other than the spawn gates would be abhorrent to them.

golfer.dub17_ESO

It really is an odd phenomenon.

Half the time I meet people there who acknowledge that I don't want to fight them and we leave each other alone.
The other time they attack me on spot. Sometimes I win, sometimes I don't.

When I do win, I love rubbing it in their face how much of a piece of garbage they are and how badly they failed.

Not sure that I would make it a no-pvp zone. Kind of has a DayZ feeling going to it where you never know what's going to happen.

Sheezabeast

PVP gets so few updates, let us keep the towns PVP zones, it's fun for small scale, to go and take a town then head out to whatever fort we need to get to...just leave it We deserve it.

dem0n1k

Cheydinhal would probably be your best bet for just PVE quests... because Bruma , Velastrus & Cropsford all have flags that attract PVP players for that chunk of AP.

Everyone's experience is probably a bit different but I can only remember one time (out of 100s of times) that I wasn't attacked on sight in these quest centres. That time the guy just cloaked & I never saw him again... but I was worried he would attack from stealth the whole rest of that gaming session. The majority of the time the enemy player will attack... if I haven't already attacked them

It is a risky business letting an enemy player go in the area you are going to be questing in. As far as you know they might just be getting reinforcements to get there & overwhelm you.

I think that the PVP element makes the very boring PVE quests a bit spicy! You can't just lumber around in plain sight, talking to NPCs & looking at your map... you have to be a bit stealthy OR aggressive. All the PVE quests in these areas are just simple fetch quests that are in every other zone in Tamriel. It seems (to me) to be a bit odd that some players still want more of the same in Cyrodiil.

golfer.dub17_ESO

dem0n1k wrote: »

I think that the PVP element makes the very boring PVE quests a bit spicy! You can't just lumber around in plain sight, talking to NPCs & looking at your map... you have to be a bit stealthy OR aggressive. All the PVE quests in these areas are just simple fetch quests that are in every other zone in Tamriel. It seems (to me) to be a bit odd that some players still want more of the same in Cyrodiil.

I don't do PvE quests in Cyrodiil to be entertained. I do them because they're a fast and easy way to get gold and XP. They could be the best written quests in the world, they'd still get old because you do them every day.

Anything that breaks the flow of this process is just annoying to me, whether it be PvP encounters or having to go all the way out to some Ayleid ruin.

Argawarga

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

When I do win, I love rubbing it in their face how much of a piece of garbage they are and how badly they failed.

And, when you lose, do you humbly accept "how much of a piece of garbage" you are, and how badly you failed? Or does that not carry over?

golfer.dub17_ESO

I accept that they were the superior opponent.

But I'm not the one ganking people in quest zones for amusement. If you try to gank me and fail you best believe I'm going to BM the hell out of it.

Magdalina

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

dem0n1k wrote: »

I think that the PVP element makes the very boring PVE quests a bit spicy! You can't just lumber around in plain sight, talking to NPCs & looking at your map... you have to be a bit stealthy OR aggressive. All the PVE quests in these areas are just simple fetch quests that are in every other zone in Tamriel. It seems (to me) to be a bit odd that some players still want more of the same in Cyrodiil.

I don't do PvE quests in Cyrodiil to be entertained. I do them because they're a fast and easy way to get gold and XP. They could be the best written quests in the world, they'd still get old because you do them every day.

Anything that breaks the flow of this process is just annoying to me, whether it be PvP encounters or having to go all the way out to some Ayleid ruin.

I'm pretty sure that's the very reason they have such good rewards. Because risk vs reward factor - you can, will, and are fully intended to run into PvP when doing it;)

Argawarga

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

I accept that they were the superior opponent.

But I'm not the one ganking people in quest zones for amusement. If you try to gank me and fail you best believe I'm going to BM the hell out of it.

It's a PvP zone. You weren't ganked, you were pwned. Sorry, friend.

golfer.dub17_ESO

Magdalina wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that's the very reason they have such good rewards. Because risk vs reward factor - you can, will, and are fully intended to run into PvP when doing it;)

Yeah, I acknowledge that it's a risk built into the system and it doesn't necessarily bother me. I wouldn't mind those towns being PvE only but I'm not really requesting it either.

I still think it's a *** move regardless, which is why I don't attack others as they do their own quests.

StereoLiz

I've spend two evening questung in Cyro (PC EU). I was in pvp build ready to fight but has no plans to do so. I expect that questing here won't be safe. But actually I am very proud of our EU community - people of all factions mostly don't attack, show emotes. Everybody respect each other and understand that we have the same goal - fancy gold boxes. One red boy attack me a few times with light attacks, I roll dodge and show block, I didn't understand what he wants, we were peacefully questing around for last 20 minutes. Then I receive whisper - kill me pls. He wanted suicide teleport ^.^

This is the very reason why EU server get the most bans for bleakers - we can do silent agreement, because we respect interests of each other.

Ofc there were some 4-5 man groups chasing for those who were questing, but as I can see they were exceptions.

Ankael07

They are closing campaigns due to lack of pvp in them and you want more and more places to be ''peaceful'' ? We should be adding more reasons to fight in remote places of Cyrodiil.