ESO+ Subscription rewards: TRANSMOG

roigseguib16_ESO

Its about time, no?

Forztr

should be base game not gated .

ThePaleItalian

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

roigseguib16_ESO

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

Cpt_Teemo

Should be just in base game imo, and free to use if your Eso Plus, and costs about 10-20k per piece depending how big it is in game without Eso Plus

Also you can't transmog to motifs you have not learned yet

SodanTok

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

Most people have no problem with paying for apple, but renting tree with monthly payments to get 1 apple.

roigseguib16_ESO

sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

Most people have no problem with paying for apple, but renting tree with monthly payments to get 1 apple.

So you prefer microtransactions to actual rewards for those who actively support the game?

Katahdin

I am also ESO+ and I disagree with making a transmog system ESO + only. It should be a base game feature for max level crafters to be able to do. Would make motif knowledge and max crafting more worthwhile.

SodanTok

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

Most people have no problem with paying for apple, but renting tree with monthly payments to get 1 apple.

So you prefer microtransactions to actual rewards for those who actively support the game?

If you mean if i prefer paying for stuff with fixed price rather than paying monthly to get access to it, then yes and I would guess many other too.

But if you meant it in a "subscribers shouldnt get rewards" way then obv no. But you know, subbing to get something and paying one time arent mutually exclusive concepts.
For one, DLCs already work that way. For second almost anything in the world works that way.

FlaviusVoyage

I think it should be available when you reach level 50 in Crafting skills or unlocked with skill points.

NewBlacksmurf

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

@roigseguib16_ESO

You're confused. Premium is an extension of the base. So technically the base features should all exist and eso plus should further enhance or extend those base features in order to establish a premium category.

They way ZOS is handling it....nothing is premium, therefore it's gated and that goes against what they initially communicated.

The other part is their real money for stuff focus has continually depleted the point of playing the game itself. It's become a get a part time job to pay for progress in some situations.

In the apple example, the store sales apples for a base price but also sales candies apples, peeled apples and seedless apples for a premium which is an extension of the basic apples

jaye63

NO! Im a Plus subber but should I ever NOT be a plus member, I would like there to be the option to get it whether that's via crowns or gold. Only thing so far that could be construed as pay to win is the mats bag. And I would like to keep it that way. Mapbooks, scroll case... ok. Add that because it's the same as the mat bag and conserves space. But pay to win bloze.

Remember the days where you bought a game, played it to the end and didnt have to spend a dime til the expansion came out? Good times.

ThePaleItalian

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

It should be a QOL benefit. There is a massive amount of crafting styles, materials and sets. Take advantage of it with a transmog system. You shouldn't have to pay for that.

Honestly I wish they would go back to a sub based game, but they walked away from that.

Cously

Since is cosmetic and wanted, I'd say ESO+ benefit. My money is on a crown store item to do the job.

rotaugen454

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

It should be a QOL benefit. There is a massive amount of crafting styles, materials and sets. Take advantage of it with a transmog system. You shouldn't have to pay for that.

Honestly I wish they would go back to a sub based game, but they walked away from that.

They need a financial reason to add QoL benefits. You could argue that they will sell more motifs in the crown store. Or make transmog stones that you buy in the crown store.

MasterSpatula

Forztr wrote: »

should be base game not gated .

I'm a sub, and I agree with this.

Molydeus

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Forztr wrote: »

should be base game not gated .

I'm a sub, and I agree with this.

Me too.

ThePaleItalian

rotaugen454 wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

It should be a QOL benefit. There is a massive amount of crafting styles, materials and sets. Take advantage of it with a transmog system. You shouldn't have to pay for that.

Honestly I wish they would go back to a sub based game, but they walked away from that.

They need a financial reason to add QoL benefits. You could argue that they will sell more motifs in the crown store. Or make transmog stones that you buy in the crown store.

But they make it financial then they become ZO$$$$, the greedy evil corporation.

Have higher storage for EOS+, or more crowns and the crafting bag. Give everyone the ability to transmog.

jedtb16_ESO

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

Its about time, no?

no...

rotaugen454

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

rotaugen454 wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

It should be a QOL benefit. There is a massive amount of crafting styles, materials and sets. Take advantage of it with a transmog system. You shouldn't have to pay for that.

Honestly I wish they would go back to a sub based game, but they walked away from that.

They need a financial reason to add QoL benefits. You could argue that they will sell more motifs in the crown store. Or make transmog stones that you buy in the crown store.

But they make it financial then they become ZO$$$$, the greedy evil corporation.

Have higher storage for EOS+, or more crowns and the crafting bag. Give everyone the ability to transmog.

They are a business, not a charity. Their shareholders didn't invest because they are out to save the world. If it comes, it will be monetized. I would expect nothing less.

ThePaleItalian

rotaugen454 wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

rotaugen454 wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

It should be a QOL benefit. There is a massive amount of crafting styles, materials and sets. Take advantage of it with a transmog system. You shouldn't have to pay for that.

Honestly I wish they would go back to a sub based game, but they walked away from that.

They need a financial reason to add QoL benefits. You could argue that they will sell more motifs in the crown store. Or make transmog stones that you buy in the crown store.

But they make it financial then they become ZO$$$$, the greedy evil corporation.

Have higher storage for EOS+, or more crowns and the crafting bag. Give everyone the ability to transmog.

They are a business, not a charity. Their shareholders didn't invest because they are out to save the world. If it comes, it will be monetized. I would expect nothing less.

I agree with you, they are here to make money. Which is why I will always hope they go back to a sub based model. But when it comes to certain QOL options, at least for consoles, such as buff trackers, guild store search features and transmog, then why not.

I for one do not care to much about transmog, I craft and get gear and just dye it, but to others it is a big deal and is in most other MMO's.

rotaugen454

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

rotaugen454 wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

rotaugen454 wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub. No, its shouldnt be just to people that are ESO+. It should be a in game feature, make it if you have max crafting skill or something. But it shouldn't be behind a paywall.

I disagree with the concept of Paywall. Its a game, you are supposed to provide premium items and services to those paying the premium price. If we keep making every benefit added to the game base-game-included then what's the point on being a Sub?

"Oh, I want an apple from this store but... they ask me to pay for it! Apples are behind a paywall"

It should be a QOL benefit. There is a massive amount of crafting styles, materials and sets. Take advantage of it with a transmog system. You shouldn't have to pay for that.

Honestly I wish they would go back to a sub based game, but they walked away from that.

They need a financial reason to add QoL benefits. You could argue that they will sell more motifs in the crown store. Or make transmog stones that you buy in the crown store.

But they make it financial then they become ZO$$$$, the greedy evil corporation.

Have higher storage for EOS+, or more crowns and the crafting bag. Give everyone the ability to transmog.

They are a business, not a charity. Their shareholders didn't invest because they are out to save the world. If it comes, it will be monetized. I would expect nothing less.

I agree with you, they are here to make money. Which is why I will always hope they go back to a sub based model. But when it comes to certain QOL options, at least for consoles, such as buff trackers, guild store search features and transmog, then why not.

I for one do not care to much about transmog, I craft and get gear and just dye it, but to others it is a big deal and is in most other MMO's.

I agree that the console players should have the same benefits as PC players like me. It comes down to what they add to either.

Kodrac

No not as a sub reward. That should be available to everyone that plays and is subject to their gearing system.

DHale

No, earn it but need better loot tables and no preposterous or training for end game gear

Smmokkee

Only an eso plus feature.

STEVIL

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

Its about time, no?

no

FlyLionel

What is transmog?

Rickter

I want transmog done right

the coding is already in the game i.e. Imperial style conversion and the upcoming morag tong style.

that being said, all Imperial edition owners know far too well the limitations of that imperial style conversion - it doesnt work on drop sets

thats absolutely BOGUS! so if they add transmog into this game, they better do it right.

FleetwoodSmack

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

Its about time, no?

Nope! Not under ESO+. Crafting? Maybe. But not under a subscription benefit.

Alaztor91

It's funny because I have a few friends that won't try ESO for this reason alone. The game has so many motifs and different ways to make your character look unique, but you hit a giant brick wall when it comes to BiS equipment:


- You can choose to look ugly and practically the same as the other guy using that overland+monster set combo.

- Or you can look like you want to with your crafted gear in you preferred style, but you sacrifice stats.


Sure you can hide your ugly gear with a costume, but what if you don't like any of the costumes or polymorphs available? what if you want to use that beautiful ebony motif? Don't even get me started with the whole ''red weapons'' thing, atleast you can dye your ugly overland armor.

Come on ZoS, it's 2017, this is a basic feature in practically every mmorpg that exists, you already have half of it working with the imperial and morag tong converter. Make us use those awesome styles that you create.

Dragonking06

Make Crafting great again!!

Give us Transmog!! My Motif collection is gathering dust!! :[