Anyone else over Festivals / Anniversaries?

Logicbomb00

I think another thing we haven't touched upon are new players to the game. In my opinion (and not everybodies) this is an Elder Scrolls game and the questing and work that's gone into them is the most rewarding and fun part of the game (as basically it eliminates the RNG that stresses so many). But with ONE TAMRIEL a new player can basically go anywhere, and coming into the game it might be - BANG - TG anniversary where you can grind and get double motif drops and double nodes, then - BAM - A festival which has lots of collectibles and titles that any new player might strongly desire. Wait a second its - BOOM - housing and the grind to get patterns and materials. Rinse and repeat. These people can quite possibly be distracted / pressured into missing out on the most glorious part of the game (again only in my opinion). That of the simple quest and storyline.

Logicbomb00

Tyrion87 wrote: »

Now we had the Jester festival. When we had a previous event? In December? And you think it's too often?

This particular statement of yours made me laugh:
I haven't been able to run a dungeon in over 6 months

Getting festival-related collectibles and achievements does not take as long as you described it. You're simply overreacting. I run dungeons/trials, do quests, chat with friends etc. every day and at the same time I have all collectibles and achievements from the events. And I am a working person who has time to play only in the evenings.

If you are so obsessed with obtaining every single thing in this game - it is only YOUR problem. No one forces you to celebrate! Let other people have fun.

Well good for you. RNG was nice. It's not always that way so please don't judge everyones experience on your own. These are not items that you can just play away and eventually get when RNG decrees. They're limited time. And if RNG wants to be a *** she can make these festivals really unenjoyable.

Beardimus

I love the events, in particular those that bring life to a zone - Imperial City, PvP, Wrothgar etc all worked well.

However the calendar is terrible. Too packed together.

I agree double XP in festival means people ignore the festival and go grinding.

I do fear the impact double XP has on the game. People just grinding the hell out things. Personally that kind of behaviour ours me off content in the long run. I also think the ability of high CP players is less now, myself included lol as I have some play toons that have hit L50 now and the expectation is they are hot as CP600 haha.

I took 6 months to Hit vet when the game dropped, now its done in a few hours and I'm unsure that's healthy long term. But I'm sure ZOS have a better view than me of their player base / longevity etc

Sigma957

I got the Royal Jester title for one of my toons so that was enough, the other toons were able to get some extra purple recipes which I sold for a nice tidy profit So all in all this was a nice event to do in between doing other things.

Nerouyn

Logicbomb00 wrote: »

I think another thing we haven't touched upon are new players to the game. In my opinion (and not everybodies) this is an Elder Scrolls game and the questing and work that's gone into them is the most rewarding and fun part of the game (as basically it eliminates the RNG that stresses so many). But with ONE TAMRIEL a new player can basically go anywhere, and coming into the game it might be - BANG - TG anniversary where you can grind and get double motif drops and double nodes, then - BAM - A festival which has lots of collectibles and titles that any new player might strongly desire. Wait a second it s - BOOM - housing and the grind to get patterns and materials. Rinse and repeat. These people can quite possibly be distracted / pressured into missing out on the most glorious part of the game (again only in my opinion). That of the simple quest and storyline.

That kind of describes me.

I still haven't finished the base game (in the last alliance zone now) and got stopped on that with master writ grinding for housing, the double motif drops (which I needed for writs) and thief guild xp, and .... then this event.

Was hoping to get back to it but then I read the 3rd anniversary event is due!

WhiteCoatSyndrome

@Tyrion87 Thieves Guild anniversary event ended March 20th, Jester's Festival right now, and Anniversary event starting tomorrow. That's three in two months.

We also had the double AP 'event' in Cyrodiil a little while ago, but as that was for testing purposes on Zeni's side I don't count that myself.

Logicbomb00

Nerouyn wrote: »

Logicbomb00 wrote: »

I think another thing we haven't touched upon are new players to the game. In my opinion (and not everybodies) this is an Elder Scrolls game and the questing and work that's gone into them is the most rewarding and fun part of the game (as basically it eliminates the RNG that stresses so many). But with ONE TAMRIEL a new player can basically go anywhere, and coming into the game it might be - BANG - TG anniversary where you can grind and get double motif drops and double nodes, then - BAM - A festival which has lots of collectibles and titles that any new player might strongly desire. Wait a second it s - BOOM - housing and the grind to get patterns and materials. Rinse and repeat. These people can quite possibly be distracted / pressured into missing out on the most glorious part of the game (again only in my opinion). That of the simple quest and storyline.

That kind of describes me.

I still haven't finished the base game (in the last alliance zone now) and got stopped on that with master writ grinding for housing, the double motif drops (which I needed for writs) and thief guild xp, and .... then this event.

Was hoping to get back to it but then I read the 3rd anniversary event is due!

I feel for you. Hopefully after the 3rd anniversary event there will be no more festivals etc for a month or 2 so you can actually get back to playing the game itself.

Bombashaman

double xp, keep 'em coming...without new achievements perhaps?

Logicbomb00

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

@Tyrion87 Thieves Guild anniversary event ended March 20th, Jester's Festival right now, and Anniversary event starting tomorrow. That's three in two months.

We also had the double AP 'event' in Cyrodiil a little while ago, but as that was for testing purposes on Zeni's side I don't count that myself.

Wasn't there also the Wrothgar / Orsinium Anniversary thrown in there / just before as well? I wasn't sure of the dates so didn't want to bring them up and possibly make an ill-informed arse out of myself so thanks for actually knowing. And if TG was the week till 20th march, and Jesters was end of March - 4th April, and now the 3rd Anniversary, that'd actually be 3 events in less than a month. TOO MUCH!!!!

Tyrion87

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

@Tyrion87 Thieves Guild anniversary event ended March 20th, Jester's Festival right now, and Anniversary event starting tomorrow. That's three in two months.

We also had the double AP 'event' in Cyrodiil a little while ago, but as that was for testing purposes on Zeni's side I don't count that myself.

But only the Jester event came with achievements and collectibles. So I don't see a problem OP has described (with collectibles etc.). Moreover, if someone doesn't enjoy these festival quests and at the same time is a 'collector', he can just buy all the things in the guild stores.

Tabbycat

Wait what? Another double XP event. OMG I am going to out-level my crafting ability. Ack.

Logicbomb00

Tyrion87 wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

@Tyrion87 Thieves Guild anniversary event ended March 20th, Jester's Festival right now, and Anniversary event starting tomorrow. That's three in two months.

We also had the double AP 'event' in Cyrodiil a little while ago, but as that was for testing purposes on Zeni's side I don't count that myself.

But only the Jester event came with achievements and collectibles. So I don't see a problem OP has described (with collectibles etc.). Moreover, if someone doesn't enjoy these festival quests and at the same time is a 'collector', he can just buy all the things in the guild stores.

Wow. You insist on addressing others game according to your own. Maybe people can't afford the 30K people are charging for purple recipes. And the TG / Orsinium anniversaries were a great (almost forced) opportunity to collect the double motifs and get those achieves (and the bonus to master writ possibilities) so bumpbowww. You lose again. Just pull out.

I'm all for all this, but as we've just established, 3 events in one month is way overkill.

Dragonnord

You haven't been able to run a dungeon in 6 months? What kind of guild is that?All of my guilds (even the trading ones) run dungeons daily/weekly, from regular ones to pledges, randoms and trials.

I can assure you festivals are not the problem of your guild.

ZOS, keep the festivals coming, and as often as possible please.

Tyrion87

Logicbomb00 wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

@Tyrion87 Thieves Guild anniversary event ended March 20th, Jester's Festival right now, and Anniversary event starting tomorrow. That's three in two months.

We also had the double AP 'event' in Cyrodiil a little while ago, but as that was for testing purposes on Zeni's side I don't count that myself.

Wasn't there also the Wrothgar / Orsinium Anniversary thrown in there / just before as well? I wasn't sure of the dates so didn't want to bring them up and possibly make an ill-informed arse out of myself so thanks for actually knowing. And if TG was the week till 20th march, and Jesters was end of March - 4th April, and now the 3rd Anniversary, that'd actually be 3 events in less than a month. TOO MUCH!!!!

There is a big difference between anniversary events (mostly EXP buff, some drop rates increased and that's all) and festivals (achievements and collectibles). So because we have some anniversary events (which is rather obvious that we have them and amazing at the same time) then we shouldn't have festivals? Prior to the Jester festival, we only had the New Life festival, and the Witches festival before that. Other events were anniversaries with no achievements and collectibles to farm. I am also a collector and I really don't see a problem with this.

People always find something to complain about... even good things.

Logicbomb00

CarbonX wrote: »

You haven't been able to run a dungeon in 6 months? What kind of guild is that?All of my guilds (even the trading ones) run dungeons daily/weekly, from regular ones to pledges, randoms and trials.

I can assure you festivals are not the problem of your guild.

ZOS, keep the festivals coming, and as often as possible please.

Exactly. You don't know what sort of guild it is. So sick of haters and people who make assumptions. Maybe it's an RP guild that satisfies that aspect of my gaming experience. In any case it's none of your business and slandering things you have no concept about just shows you to be very narrow minded.

I have put forward some very valid arguments that have been picked up by others in the situations I have described and scored some agrees along the way, so although it doesn't effect YOUR enjoyment of the game (and that's all that REALLY matters to you isn't it) it most certainly does others. It's not complaining. It's trying to have a discussion. How about you do the same please.

luen79rwb17_ESO

No, I disagree. I think these events are great and serve exactly their purpose, something casual, fun and not mandatory.

If you don't like it, skip it. Simple as that.

LadyDestiny

runagate wrote: »

This time the drop rates were really, really weird.

Last time I couldn't possibly find enough people to give away the purple recipes to. Weeks after the event I finally just started walking up to players on the newbie islands and opening a trade window and giving them runeboxes and purple recipes and motifs.

This time I didn't get purple recipes for all 12 characters but got lots of runeboxes (which I can't give away - I've tried) and 60-some Festival Banners. I made a flying wing of them in one of my storage houses, it's kinda cool looking.

I received like 100+ banners, same on princess delight. 8 blue recipies, 4 jewels and 2 dubious. lets see about 10 runeboxes. Yep drop rate on purple recipies was horrible. Those are the only thing I need to complete achievements on characters too.......

Logicbomb00

To continue with the discussion, I can definitely appreciate that for those players that have (and in some cases so generously provided us with) completed all the achievements to date, have obviously been playing the game for a long time and are simply at 'endgame', the Festivals and anniversaries are a welcome change and break up of the game until the next dungeon / trial comes out.

But for the majority of the players still working towards these, having to stop their progression to pick up the limited time only ones and all the while earn double experience while doing them, can create more problems than just putting them further behind. Next thing we have people complaining that 600CP+ players have no concept of mechanics or running group content, and this may be because over the course of a month or so they've not been able to concentrate on learning these and have levelled simply due to events and festivals, and really through no fault of their own (not including the habitual grind to max players out there).

stevepdodson_ESO888

Logicbomb00 wrote: »

So. Double XP is a grand thing and I have no complaints here. The problem is that all these new Festivals seem to be getting closer and closer together until maybe one day it's just one big long Festival, and they are ruining the gaming experience of myself and many I speak to because of the 'limited edition' collectibles and achieves that they include. I understand the whole 'hidden' philosophy behind this> ZOS wants you to keep on grinding content and keep on playing the game no matter how you enjoy it.

My problem is that I enjoy several aspects of the game. I run my own guild of over 250 members. I like to run the occasional dungeon. But I also like to have as many collectibles as I can. Lately it seems that this is all the game has devolved into. Festival after Festival of 'limited edition' garbage which people like me just can't resist. My guild management is slipping. I haven't been able to run a dungeon in over 6 months due to the incessant desire to have these limited things, and although I fully realise that this is totally my choice, ZOS can we please just have a friggin break to take a breath and actually enjoy the game for a bit. Run a dungeon perhaps. Do a quest or two. And be able to do these things without the hovering dread that maybe I'm wasting time when I should be working on grinding an alt with double XP or working harder to get more limited collectibles.

it's cheap easy game play with no real development put into it to make players grind the same thing over and over and over again

Asardes

In the long run they will most likely have 4 two weeks events, one for each season.
- Witches Festival: late October to early November
- New Life Festival: late December to early January
- Jester's Festival: late March to early April
- Probably a summer festival too, but that is yet to be announced.
The DLC anniversary events are most likely one off events, as more DLCs will be launched over the years and each will have just one such event.

I see no reason why such events would prevent one from running a dungeon or doing the other content they normally do in the game. I only do the quests for the seasonal events for 3-4 days on multiple chars until I get the achievements and collect the motifs and recipes on my main then go about with my normal schedule using just the memento to boost XP. I don't bother learning them on the others since I see no point in it and I just sell the surplus. Last year Witches Festival was an exception though, because motifs and recipes dropped so frequently that were literally degraded to vendor trash, so I decided to learn them on all my chars since there wasn't much of a loss anyway.

akl77

Can't wait for it to be over, need some different events like tamerial duelling championships would be new.

Asardes

Nerouyn wrote: »

Logicbomb00 wrote: »

I lost all interest after that because the full compliment had been broken. I rarely if ever buy crowns anymore.

Yeah I think they've definitely gone overboard with the limited time stuff.

Azurulia wrote: »

I don't care about achievements that don't give any sort of reward. I have better things to do then travel the world for a gold star and a "good job!" Like pvp or pledges.

I don't care about the titles. Motifs and dyes I appreciate and will 'work' for.

With writ vouchers being based on recipes known, unfortunately that now creates pressure to collect all the recipes for multiple characters

They are not based on recipes known, but on the achievements under that category. For example if you have learned 100 recipes, even green ones, you still get [Recipe Book] achievement. Others are just granted after you max your skill, and craft a purple food or drink, which doesn't need to be festival related. So festivals have really no contribution here.

Logicbomb00

Asardes wrote: »

Nerouyn wrote: »

Logicbomb00 wrote: »

I lost all interest after that because the full compliment had been broken. I rarely if ever buy crowns anymore.

Yeah I think they've definitely gone overboard with the limited time stuff.

Azurulia wrote: »

I don't care about achievements that don't give any sort of reward. I have better things to do then travel the world for a gold star and a "good job!" Like pvp or pledges.

I don't care about the titles. Motifs and dyes I appreciate and will 'work' for.

With writ vouchers being based on recipes known, unfortunately that now creates pressure to collect all the recipes for multiple characters

They are not based on recipes known, but on the achievements under that category. For example if you have learned 100 recipes, even green ones, you still get [Recipe Book] achievement. Others are just granted after you max your skill, and craft a purple food or drink, which doesn't need to be festival related. So festivals have really no contribution here.

Festivals no, but I think what they're referring to are double motif (recipes) drops from the Anniversaries which are just simply too good an opportunity to pass up if you don't have that collection yet, and we're talking about the back to back rollover these combined are creating.

Emmeric1964

Events are great. One every other week is what Neverwinter does and it works out well - leaves you looking forward to the events while assuming normal play for a week.

The variety is good, too. I just cannot grasp the logic of players complaining about too many events: the variety allows the player to pick and choose the level of participation.

Keep the events coming!

waterfairy

Logicbomb00 wrote: »

I think another thing we haven't touched upon are new players to the game. In my opinion (and not everybodies) this is an Elder Scrolls game and the questing and work that's gone into them is the most rewarding and fun part of the game (as basically it eliminates the RNG that stresses so many). But with ONE TAMRIEL a new player can basically go anywhere, and coming into the game it might be - BANG - TG anniversary where you can grind and get double motif drops and double nodes, then - BAM - A festival which has lots of collectibles and titles that any new player might strongly desire. Wait a second its - BOOM - housing and the grind to get patterns and materials. Rinse and repeat. These people can quite possibly be distracted / pressured into missing out on the most glorious part of the game (again only in my opinion). That of the simple quest and storyline.

Lol I didn't feel like any of these things were in my face like "BANG BAM BOOM".

All of these are purely optional and easily avoided if you have some self control and don't feel like you have to collect all the shiny.