Do you think the Nightblade skills need more stamina morphs?

DorianDragonRaze

Aquanova

No

I have 2 max lvl stamina NB's. They may not be the best dps class for PvE but they more than make up for it in PvP.

theher0not

all classes need more stam morphs IMO

LiquidPony

Yes (tell us what skills?)

Just give me a stamina morph of Twisting Path that does AoE poison/disease damage and I'll be happy.

SydneyGrey

Yes (tell us what skills?)

I'd like a nightblade that actually has decent nightblade skills that don't come from other skill trees. It seems like the only way you can make a decent nightblade is if you use the Fighter's Guild ultimate with skills from non-nightblade skill trees, like the Alliance War skill trees. The nightblade ultimates suck. The nightblade skills are great for sneaking, but they're hopeless for boss fights in PvE. It's sad that the only way you can make a good nightblade is if you use non-nightblade skills.

Edziu

Yes (tell us what skills?)

twisting path morph and (or atleast) cripple morph, from cripe nobody but if then under 1% of nb players are using 2nd morph - Debilitate

Narvuntien

No

Probably not, they have just as many (more?) as other classes.

I think they need better passives for DPS

Oh and the biggest would be relentless focus to recast after the bow shot or having a much shorter cast time.

WalksonGraves

Melee skills that are magika by default, this game was designed by clowns.

mr_wazzabi

Yes (tell us what skills?)

Agony is an unused ability anyways. Give it a stam morph to give stam nb another dot.

Strider_Roshin

Yes (tell us what skills?)

Well for one, improve power extraction. As far as more stam morphs are concerned. I think making debilitate a stam morph would be appropriate.

More importantly though, we need a stam equivalent of magicka flood, and the Executioner passive needs to give back stam as well. While you're at it remove Assassination; and make ganking less effective.

Strider_Roshin

Yes (tell us what skills?)

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Melee skills that are magika by default, this game was designed by clowns.

Nothing's changed lol. Did you noticed that the bear ultimate for the Warden; which claws, and bites causes magic damage? Lol they still show favoritism towards magicka after all this time.

max_only

Yes (tell us what skills?)

My first impression of nightblades when I started the game was that they were a stamina class like rogues commonly are, you know as opposed to magicians and sorcerers that are commonly magic based.

I had to rethink reality when I realized nightblades were magic based.

EldritchPenguin

No

Edziu wrote: »

twisting path morph and (or atleast) cripple morph, from cripe nobody but if then under 1% of nb players are using 2nd morph - Debilitate

LiquidPony wrote: »

Just give me a stamina morph of Twisting Path that does AoE poison/disease damage and I'll be happy.

Stamblades need a nice boost in the PvE department, but that should not come at the expense of taking away something that is very important to Magblades. Losing either morph of Path of Darkness could be catastrophic for either Magblade Tanks or DPS, dependent on which one we lost, and those are two playstyles that also need good buffs, not nerfs.

Buffing Stamblades should happen in a way that doesn't cripple (heh) Magblades.

Although I wouldn't say no to giving Stamblades Debilitate.

Chilly-McFreeze

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Melee skills that are magika by default, this game was designed by clowns.

Nothing's changed lol. Did you noticed that the bear ultimate for the Warden; which claws, and bites causes magic damage? Lol they still show favoritism towards magicka after all this time.

What is it with your obsession to bash magicka at any given time? I read so many posts of your and they all have the same negative sound towards mag.

Strider_Roshin

Yes (tell us what skills?)

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Melee skills that are magika by default, this game was designed by clowns.

Nothing's changed lol. Did you noticed that the bear ultimate for the Warden; which claws, and bites causes magic damage? Lol they still show favoritism towards magicka after all this time.

What is it with your obsession to bash magicka at any given time? I read so many posts of your and they all have the same negative sound towards mag.

Lol that was me bashing ZOS, not magicka.

Edziu

Yes (tell us what skills?)

EldritchPenguin wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

twisting path morph and (or atleast) cripple morph, from cripe nobody but if then under 1% of nb players are using 2nd morph - Debilitate

LiquidPony wrote: »

Just give me a stamina morph of Twisting Path that does AoE poison/disease damage and I'll be happy.

Stamblades need a nice boost in the PvE department, but that should not come at the expense of taking away something that is very important to Magblades. Losing either morph of Path of Darkness could be catastrophic for either Magblade Tanks or DPS, dependent on which one we lost, and those are two playstyles that also need good buffs, not nerfs.

Buffing Stamblades should happen in a way that doesn't cripple (heh) Magblades.

Although I wouldn't say no to giving Stamblades Debilitate.

yeah, at all twisting path ist that very needed for stamblades but its still very weak skill also for just magblades in compare to any other magica class skills and this debilitate, I dont see any problem to change this morpth to stamine when I never see magblade using this morph

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

Yes (tell us what skills?)

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Melee skills that are magika by default, this game was designed by clowns.

Nothing's changed lol. Did you noticed that the bear ultimate for the Warden; which claws, and bites causes magic damage? Lol they still show favoritism towards magicka after all this time.

Yeah they should have made it's Base as Physical damage and a Morph for Magicka damage, but that is ZOS logic..

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

Yes (tell us what skills?)

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Well for one, improve power extraction. As far as more stam morphs are concerned. I think making debilitate a stam morph would be appropriate.

More importantly though, we need a stam equivalent of magicka flood, and the Executioner passive needs to give back stam as well.

Totally agree with these points and 110% on that the Executioner Passive needs to give an equal amount of Stamina back as well as Magicka, you waste two skill points on that passive, two skill points....

ThePonzzz

Yes (tell us what skills?)

Yes. Shadow and Siphoning need some stamina morphs. Personally, I think every class should have a stamina and magicka option.

MarkusLiberty

Yes (tell us what skills?)

Never understood why classes are mostly magica based in the first place, where's the fun in playing Stamina when you're always limited to the same mele skill lines?

This is something that tend to confuse new players a lot, from my experience. They believe Dragonknights and nightblades are Stamina classes, only to find out they can only use a couple of skills from their class by going Stamina.

I mean, why even have classes when only magic users really use them?

Vizier

The Night Blade class in Elder Scrolls has always been a Magicka based class. The difficulty folks have is that ESO took multiple classes and kind of morphed them together to make their 4 base classes. AND there are a significant number of people that like to play a traditional rogue/ranger type character which simply doesn't exist as it SHOULD in ESO.

All I can say is I feel your pain... ZoS in so many ways regarding character design missed the target by a mile.

waterfairy

No

No I think DK does. It's a dragonknight warrior class by name yet only has 2 stamina morphs?

Izaki

Yes (tell us what skills?)

Either Twisting Path or Debilitate.

Strider_Roshin

Yes (tell us what skills?)

Vigarr wrote: »

No I think DK does. It's a dragonknight warrior class by name yet only has 2 stamina morphs?

They both do. Like why is stone fist magic damage? You get hit by a freaking rock lol

Rohamad_Ali

Yes (tell us what skills?)

I think all the classes should have a Majic and stamina morph on all their abilities . Even if it means up to four morphs per ability . It would just make builds even more diverse and open up new possibilities .

Tommy_The_Gun

NB needs buffs that's all... It is weakest class in eso

EldritchPenguin

No

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I think all the classes should have a Majic and stamina morph on all their abilities . Even if it means up to four morphs per ability . It would just make builds even more diverse and open up new possibilities .

That would really throw the balance between Magicka and Stamina out of whack. Can you imagine Stamina Sorcerers using Curse and Wrath while shield stacking on top of all of the other advantages that they already have? Or Stamplars that can fight you at absolutely any range, smacking you with Jesus Beam when you get low? That would make Stamina builds as a whole ridiculously powerful.

DorianDragonRaze

Aquanova wrote: »

I have 2 max lvl stamina NB's. They may not be the best dps class for PvE but they more than make up for it in PvP.

And how many class skills on their bars?

hmsdragonfly

No

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Melee skills that are magika by default, this game was designed by clowns.

Have never seen conjured swords in TES single player games?

hmsdragonfly

No

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I think all the classes should have a Majic and stamina morph on all their abilities . Even if it means up to four morphs per ability . It would just make builds even more diverse and open up new possibilities .

That's terrible idea.

Then you will have to make magicka morphs for freaking Two-Handed abilities. Then magicka users will ask for magicka based dodge roll and break free. Then stam users will ask for stam-based cleanse. Everything will feel the same. No difference between stam and mag anymore.

Game will become a total mess.

Vigarr wrote: »

No I think DK does. It's a dragonknight warrior class by name yet only has 2 stamina morphs?

The thing is, DK isn't a warrior class.

hmsdragonfly

No

MarkusLiberty wrote: »

Never understood why classes are mostly magica based in the first place, where's the fun in playing Stamina when you're always limited to the same mele skill lines?

This is something that tend to confuse new players a lot, from my experience. They believe Dragonknights and nightblades are Stamina classes, only to find out they can only use a couple of skills from their class by going Stamina.

I mean, why even have classes when only magic users really use them?

Think about it. If every class ability has a stam morph and a mag morph, then you will have to make magicka morphs for freaking Two-Handed abilities. Then magicka users will ask for magicka based dodge roll and break free. Then stam users will ask for stam-based cleanse and mist form. Everything will be the same. No difference between stam and mag anymore.

So you are telling me, stamdk plays the same as stamplar or stamnb? It's like saying playing magsorc is similar to playing a magblade because both use force pulse. Playing a stamdk is way different than playing, for example, a stamblade.

Most regular stamdks are tanky, they are slow but have great survivability, keep pressure the opponent with all the DOTs, then burst them down when the time is right.

Most regular stamsorcs are highly mobile, they are fast and agile, zip and zap around the battlefield, take the fight when they can and streak away if the enemies have the upperhand.

Most regular stamblades are all about burst. They have the highest burst damage in the game, but they la

Most regular stamplars are all about utilizing all the utilities. They have nice range CC, they have cleanse

But on top of that, you can actually build a high burst low sustain stamdk, a tanky stamblade with high sustain, a ganking stamplar, whatever you desire.

New players are confused because ESO has no tutorial, it has nothing to do with the class design. There should be a tutorial that provides new players with important information about class, skills, resources etc. There's none right now.