Burning Spellweave Proc

Berenhir

Hey everybody,

how does the burning spellweave proc work? Is it an independent proc with a 20% chance or is it linked to the burning status effect so whenever burning is applied, burning spellweave procs? Would e.g. a charged staff increase the proc chance?

Panth141

Berenhir wrote: »

Yeah, I know that fire damage procs Burning Spellweave and which abilities deal fire damage. My question targets the relation between the status effect "Burning" and the increase in spell damage from the Burning Spellweave set.

Is the application of the status effect "Burning" tied to the Burning Spellweave proc in a way that increasing the chance to proc the status effect "Burning" increases the chance to proc Burning Spellweave? Or can Burning Spellweave proc without the status effect?

Burning is considered flame damage, so can proc BSW. But I don't think that that was your question -

The mention of 'burning' in the BSW tooltip has nothing to do with the method of proccing the set; it is just saying that when BSW does proc it gives you both the SD buff and places the burning status effect on the enemy. It's mentioning burning as an effect of the proc, not a cause of it.

Panth141

Berenhir wrote: »

Liofa wrote: »

BSW basically procs from every single flame damage so I think it procs from ''Burning'' status effect as well . Judging by your first post , I understand that you want to increase Burning status effect hits in order to increase bsw uptime but I don't think it will be nearly as good as a Sharpened weapon . Sharpened gives almost 11% damage bonus . On the other hand , using a Charged weapon will definitely increase Burning status effect uptime but also will reduce your overall damage a lot . A mDK can use BSW with 66% uptime with double Sharpened Staves which is almost maximum . Other Magicka classes can keep it up 60% as well . 6% uptime increase on BSW proc is nothing compared to Sharpened weapon's damage bonus .

I am trying to identify means to reliably proc Burning Spellweave within the shortest time possible in PvP.

Panth141 wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

Yeah, I know that fire damage procs Burning Spellweave and which abilities deal fire damage. My question targets the relation between the status effect "Burning" and the increase in spell damage from the Burning Spellweave set.

Is the application of the status effect "Burning" tied to the Burning Spellweave proc in a way that increasing the chance to proc the status effect "Burning" increases the chance to proc Burning Spellweave? Or can Burning Spellweave proc without the status effect?

Burning is considered flame damage, so can proc BSW. But I don't think that that was your question -

The mention of 'burning' in the BSW tooltip has nothing to do with the method of proccing the set; it is just saying that when BSW does proc it gives you both the SD buff and places the burning status effect on the enemy. It's mentioning burning as an effect of the proc, not a cause of it.

Thank you, that was indeed the question.

So Burning Spellweave has two different effects:

1) It standardizes the chance of the application of the elemental effect "Burning" from

Weapon enchants 20% (40% with destro equipped)
Standard ability 10% (20% with destro equipped)
Area of effect abilities 5% (10% with destro equipped)
Damage over time abilities 3% (6% with destro equipped)
Area of effect damage over time abilities 1% (2% with destro equipped)

to

All the above mentioned methods 20% (40% with destro equipped)

AND

2) Gives a 20% chance to proc a 600 Spell Damage increase for 8 sec with 12 sec cooldown

AND

these effects are independent of each other?

Not quite - they aren't independent: when BSW procs (20% from any flame damage) it applies the burning status effect and gives you the SD buff. Both effects occur when the BSW proc happens. It is unrelated to the normal methods of applying the burning effect.

Liofa

''When you deal damage with a Flame ability''

That's all . Deal damage with Flame . Every time you deal damage with flame , there is 20% chance to proc the set . Any kind of flame . Grothdar flame , skoria flame , whip flame , whatever flame . Just flame .

Use flame .

darthsithis

Fire staff attacks and force pulse even! Ilambris too. Anything fire. Easiest way is fire wall of elements for magsorc imo, pulse does it as well though with weaves.

Drop an ulti only after you see the orange arms and Empower though! Makes things hit quite hard...

Berenhir

Yeah, I know that fire damage procs Burning Spellweave and which abilities deal fire damage. My question targets the relation between the status effect "Burning" and the increase in spell damage from the Burning Spellweave set.

Is the application of the status effect "Burning" tied to the Burning Spellweave proc in a way that increasing the chance to proc the status effect "Burning" increases the chance to proc Burning Spellweave? Or can Burning Spellweave proc without the status effect?

Liofa

BSW basically procs from every single flame damage so I think it procs from ''Burning'' status effect as well . Judging by your first post , I understand that you want to increase Burning status effect hits in order to increase bsw uptime but I don't think it will be nearly as good as a Sharpened weapon . Sharpened gives almost 11% damage bonus . On the other hand , using a Charged weapon will definitely increase Burning status effect uptime but also will reduce your overall damage a lot . A mDK can use BSW with 66% uptime with double Sharpened Staves which is almost maximum . Other Magicka classes can keep it up 60% as well . 6% uptime increase on BSW proc is nothing compared to Sharpened weapon's damage bonus .

Berenhir

Liofa wrote: »

BSW basically procs from every single flame damage so I think it procs from ''Burning'' status effect as well . Judging by your first post , I understand that you want to increase Burning status effect hits in order to increase bsw uptime but I don't think it will be nearly as good as a Sharpened weapon . Sharpened gives almost 11% damage bonus . On the other hand , using a Charged weapon will definitely increase Burning status effect uptime but also will reduce your overall damage a lot . A mDK can use BSW with 66% uptime with double Sharpened Staves which is almost maximum . Other Magicka classes can keep it up 60% as well . 6% uptime increase on BSW proc is nothing compared to Sharpened weapon's damage bonus .

I am trying to identify means to reliably proc Burning Spellweave within the shortest time possible in PvP.

Panth141 wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

Yeah, I know that fire damage procs Burning Spellweave and which abilities deal fire damage. My question targets the relation between the status effect "Burning" and the increase in spell damage from the Burning Spellweave set.

Is the application of the status effect "Burning" tied to the Burning Spellweave proc in a way that increasing the chance to proc the status effect "Burning" increases the chance to proc Burning Spellweave? Or can Burning Spellweave proc without the status effect?

Burning is considered flame damage, so can proc BSW. But I don't think that that was your question -

The mention of 'burning' in the BSW tooltip has nothing to do with the method of proccing the set; it is just saying that when BSW does proc it gives you both the SD buff and places the burning status effect on the enemy. It's mentioning burning as an effect of the proc, not a cause of it.

Thank you, that was indeed the question.

So Burning Spellweave has two different effects:

1) It standardizes the chance of the application of the elemental effect "Burning" from

Weapon enchants 20% (40% with destro equipped)
Standard ability 10% (20% with destro equipped)
Area of effect abilities 5% (10% with destro equipped)
Damage over time abilities 3% (6% with destro equipped)
Area of effect damage over time abilities 1% (2% with destro equipped)

to

All the above mentioned methods 20% (40% with destro equipped)

AND

2) Gives a 20% chance to proc a 600 Spell Damage increase for 8 sec with 12 sec cooldown

AND

these effects are independent of each other?

darthsithis

Nvm