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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8098811/#Comment_8098811

Suggestion: Prison for Cheaters

  • SydneyGrey
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    I like this idea. It's funny and it sends a message to the botters/cheaters at the same time. Not 5 years, though ... that would be 5 years in real time! They should have to stay in the jail cell for maybe one month real time ... essentially like being suspended for one month, because there'd be nothing for them to do in the jail.
  • Iskrasfemme
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    This is only a game, nothing more.
  • Messy1
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    theher0not wrote: »
    Just perma ban and hardware ban them. There is no need to waste server space on cheaters/botters.

    Right, loyal paying customers would be soooooo much happier and crown crate revenues would soar for ZOS because of increased satisfaction#
  • Yo_Donno
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    This would literally just encourage more cheating. If you have to spend active time in the prison it encourages them to put a rubber band on their controller and leave their character pacing around the the thing overnight and preventing an idle kick.
  • DragonBound
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    The prison is an excellent idea though, it certainly would teach people to not cheat.
  • Runs
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    1st violation
    • ESO+ member: Warning
    • Non ESO+: Account must sub to continue playing on live servers.

    2nd violation
    • Account stripped of everything but PTS, still must continue subbing to play.
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  • Zinaroth
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    Given how zealots on these forums will label anything that gives people an edge over them as cheating, I am totally against anything of this kind.

    I would be serving life now due to exploiting, macroing or animation cancelling if it was players passing judgement.
  • Banana
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    Give them all a custom title "Cheater" that they can't remove.
  • raidentenshu_ESO
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    I loved the "dunce cap" idea in GTA V Online for cheaters and bad sports. An ESO themed dunce cap would be phenomenal.

    You be encouraging people to cheat for the "dunce cap" hat.
  • CardboardedBox
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    ......So....I'm assuming one could visit these players with a disk of returning?
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Runs wrote: »
    1st violation
    • ESO+ member: Warning
    • Non ESO+: Account must sub to continue playing on live servers.

    2nd violation
    • Account stripped of everything but PTS, still must continue subbing to play.

    3rd violation

    Account terminated.
  • Sheezabeast
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    I loved the "dunce cap" idea in GTA V Online for cheaters and bad sports. An ESO themed dunce cap would be phenomenal.

    You be encouraging people to cheat for the "dunce cap" hat.

    Not to mention they could hide their helmet ;) Zos would have to give them a scarlet letter.
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  • Enslaved
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    Prison? Maybe. Or just prohibition of some sort. Like debuff on XP where you gain nothing for some time. Debuff on nodes, preventing you to farm them. No keys from undaunted pledges for some time, etc.
  • mewcatus
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    Cheaters get a 10 day mandatory red bounty which cannot be repaid. And guards will constantly spanw to harass them, all the time, irregardless of where they might be.
  • Duiwel
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    Change their name to CHEATER

    @CHEATER 714 is trying to trade with you.

    @CHEATER is trying to group with you.

    The embarrassment will be too much.
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  • Turelus
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    Runs wrote: »
    1st violation
    • ESO+ member: Warning
    • Non ESO+: Account must sub to continue playing on live servers.

    2nd violation
    • Account stripped of everything but PTS, still must continue subbing to play.
    No, this enforces that if you pay money you can break rules.

    Serious they don't need anything fancy, just a two or three strike system like every other MMO.
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  • Blacksmoke
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    Just perma ban their account problem solved
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  • Egonieser
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    Blacksmoke wrote: »
    Just perma ban their account problem solved

    Cheaters have the tendency to resurface even after bans, given how cheap you can buy the game now for, if you shop around.
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  • Turelus
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    Egonieser wrote: »
    Blacksmoke wrote: »
    Just perma ban their account problem solved

    Cheaters have the tendency to resurface even after bans, given how cheap you can buy the game now for, if you shop around.
    That's fine, they can do all the effort of getting everything again, then when they cheat and we ban them again they can repeat it.

    There is going to be a point where the effort is not worth the reward for them. Either they get banned, learn and come back to play fair or they keep getting banned and waste their time/life.
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  • Asardes
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    They will just make a new account and get at it. I've seen plenty of people who have random numbers and characters for account names mindlessly AoE-ing dungeons and I suspect many of those are in fact accounts creating specifically for botting. Who on earth will put something like "A56HJKPO78_3GHUUz_O36" as login (not actual name, just example)?
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  • Turelus
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    Asardes wrote: »
    They will just make a new account and get at it. I've seen plenty of people who have random numbers and characters for account names mindlessly AoE-ing dungeons and I suspect many of those are in fact accounts creating specifically for botting. Who on earth will put something like "A56HJKPO78_3GHUUz_O36" as login (not actual name, just example)?
    Someone who didn't know what box the game code goes in. :tongue:
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  • Daemons_Bane
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    Dumbest idea I've seen for a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery long time
  • DMuehlhausen
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    They were going to do something similar in Age of Conan. That was even going to allow players to stand outside the Prison Yard and taunt the offenders. I'm not sure if it ever got put in, but if it did from what it sounded like it didn't really stop anybody.

    The biggest problem is bots again. If you put a bot account in prison they are going to do what they do if you permaban the account. Go buy another account and keep botting.
  • Turelus
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    Dumbest idea I've seen for a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery long time
    The thing is games like GTA and others who do gimmicks about cheaters draw the headlines and everyone thinks it's cool then.

    Personally I just want them banned and gone so we can move on and enjoy the game. This is what's expected of a AAA MMO and it's always been weird ZOS doesn't seem to do well with it.
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  • Daemons_Bane
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Dumbest idea I've seen for a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery long time
    The thing is games like GTA and others who do gimmicks about cheaters draw the headlines and everyone thinks it's cool then.

    Personally I just want them banned and gone so we can move on and enjoy the game. This is what's expected of a AAA MMO and it's always been weird ZOS doesn't seem to do well with it.

    Banned maybe, but stop acting like cheating = rl crimes..
  • npuk
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    A justice system that made cheaters vulnerable to any player in the normal PVE environment for X amount of time would be good, upstanding players could then make them pay :smiley:

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  • Daemons_Bane
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    Oh noes XD the PvP/PvE justice system rears its ugly head again
  • Turelus
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Dumbest idea I've seen for a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery long time
    The thing is games like GTA and others who do gimmicks about cheaters draw the headlines and everyone thinks it's cool then.

    Personally I just want them banned and gone so we can move on and enjoy the game. This is what's expected of a AAA MMO and it's always been weird ZOS doesn't seem to do well with it.

    Banned maybe, but stop acting like cheating = rl crimes..
    Do you mean me acting like cheating is a RL crime or others? As I have only been asking for what is expected of a online game which is those who cheat/abuse get banned maybe with a strike system.
    A justice system that made cheaters vulnerable to any player in the normal PVE environment for X amount of time would be good, upstanding players could then make them pay :smiley:
    Again nothing but gimmicks, if they want a justice system for in game crimes, sure. As for players cheating/exploiting they should face bans as per the ToS they agreed to.

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  • Rickter
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    I think they should just ban more. And if they arent going to ban people indefinitely, they should give a reason to the players as to why via public announcement. If ZOS doesnt enforce the rules then they arent rules at all.
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  • Daemons_Bane
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    Dumbest idea I've seen for a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery long time
    The thing is games like GTA and others who do gimmicks about cheaters draw the headlines and everyone thinks it's cool then.

    Personally I just want them banned and gone so we can move on and enjoy the game. This is what's expected of a AAA MMO and it's always been weird ZOS doesn't seem to do well with it.

    Banned maybe, but stop acting like cheating = rl crimes..
    Do you mean me acting like cheating is a RL crime or others? As I have only been asking for what is expected of a online game which is those who cheat/abuse get banned maybe with a strike system.
    A justice system that made cheaters vulnerable to any player in the normal PVE environment for X amount of time would be good, upstanding players could then make them pay :smiley:
    Again nothing but gimmicks, if they want a justice system for in game crimes, sure. As for players cheating/exploiting they should face bans as per the ToS they agreed to.

    Not you Turelus :smile: I was referring to the original idea posted in the thread
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