Assassins will.... / sigh

CavalryPK

in pvp.... the Assassins Will is my most favorite and most hated skill.

I hate it because some times when you are about to shoot it and there is a LOS... and you already hit the button... the skill does not go off so you have to get back in to your 4 light attacks. I also hate it that , when I am finally getting ready to do my burst.. the 20 seconds are always magically up, and it just recasts the skill. I guess its my bad lol..

I love it, because when I shoot it really hurts. I also love it for the minor berserk. and if I can make it work properly, I am a scary opponent.

Xvorg

CavalryPK wrote: »

in pvp.... the Assassins Will is my most favorite and most hated skill.

I hate it because some times when you are about to shoot it and there is a LOS... and you already hit the button... the skill does not go off so you have to get back in to your 4 light attacks. I also hate it that , when I am finally getting ready to do my burst.. the 20 seconds are always magically up, and it just recasts the skill. I guess its my bad lol..

I love it, because when I shoot it really hurts. I also love it for the minor berserk. and if I can make it work properly, I am a scary opponent.

Dodge roll?

Koolio

We call it a case of the disappearing merciless. Sometimes it proccs then you go to hit it you just buff again. Other times it will play the animation then disappear completely. After fighting someone for 10 mins and 1 of the 10 actually works it just isn't worth it. Even though it's the only burst for a Ranged MNB.

Izaki

But hey Velocious Curse was too clunky, right?

Yes, I still can't believe they haven't addressed this skill in Homestead where their focus was on simplifying things and rotations.

Just hope that in Morrowind we get a change to this skill. And that Twisting Path wouldfinally scale off Thaumaturge.

exeeter702

I honeslty feel like in pvp its more effort than its worth, especially in console. On pc at least i have timers to better line it up. But still having to hit twice the amount of attacks due to dodge to trigger it and then having it not fire at all or when it does fire, it gets dodged as well.

Thankfully its getting some kind of rework. Im curious what they are going to do with it.

Strider_Roshin

CavalryPK wrote: »

in pvp.... the Assassins Will is my most favorite and most hated skill.

I hate it because some times when you are about to shoot it and there is a LOS... and you already hit the button... the skill does not go off so you have to get back in to your 4 light attacks. I also hate it that , when I am finally getting ready to do my burst.. the 20 seconds are always magically up, and it just recasts the skill. I guess its my bad lol..

I love it, because when I shoot it really hurts. I also love it for the minor berserk. and if I can make it work properly, I am a scary opponent.

Happens to me all the time. It's like I Ambush to them just to yell at their face lol.

Izaki

exeeter702 wrote: »

I honeslty feel like in pvp its more effort than its worth, especially in console. On pc at least i have timers to better line it up. But still having to hit twice the amount of attacks due to dodge to trigger it and then having it not fire at all or when it does fire, it gets dodged as well.

Thankfully its getting some kind of rework. Im curious what they are going to do with it.

Dodged light and heavy attacks count towards Assassin's Will.

CavalryPK

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

I honeslty feel like in pvp its more effort than its worth, especially in console. On pc at least i have timers to better line it up. But still having to hit twice the amount of attacks due to dodge to trigger it and then having it not fire at all or when it does fire, it gets dodged as well.

Thankfully its getting some kind of rework. Im curious what they are going to do with it.

Dodged light and heavy attacks count towards Assassin's Will.

Hmm. I was under the impression that it does not count. since I only play mage blade in pvp. but I will have to double check today.

Izaki

CavalryPK wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

I honeslty feel like in pvp its more effort than its worth, especially in console. On pc at least i have timers to better line it up. But still having to hit twice the amount of attacks due to dodge to trigger it and then having it not fire at all or when it does fire, it gets dodged as well.

Thankfully its getting some kind of rework. Im curious what they are going to do with it.

Dodged light and heavy attacks count towards Assassin's Will.

Hmm. I was under the impression that it does not count. since I only play mage blade in pvp. but I will have to double check today.

Back in 1T when duelling came out, a mate of mine wanted to test it on me and it worked (I got one shot in the process too lol)

getemshauna

Actually it shouldn't be dodgeable, because it's the only Magblade's offensive ability that makes him playable in pvp.

CavalryPK

gethemshauna wrote: »

Actually it shouldn't be dodgeable, because it's the only Magblade's offensive ability that makes him playable in pvp.

That's the problem man. It is being dodged so much that I have to keep it and time my burst... to my disadvantage... that's when the 20 second timer runs out.

Koolio

gethemshauna wrote: »

Actually it shouldn't be dodgeable, because it's the only Magblade's offensive ability that makes him playable in pvp.

That's what we need. 30 undodgeable merciless proccs from zergs.

getemshauna

Koolio wrote: »

gethemshauna wrote: »

Actually it shouldn't be dodgeable, because it's the only Magblade's offensive ability that makes him playable in pvp.

That's what we need. 30 undodgeable merciless proccs from zergs.

30 Magblades? Woah. Never seen two of em in a row.

Koolio

gethemshauna wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

gethemshauna wrote: »

Actually it shouldn't be dodgeable, because it's the only Magblade's offensive ability that makes him playable in pvp.

That's what we need. 30 undodgeable merciless proccs from zergs.

30 Magblades? Woah. Never seen two of em in a row.

If you made merciless undodgeable they would be everywhere.

ninjaguyman

CavalryPK wrote: »

in pvp.... the Assassins Will is my most favorite and most hated skill.

I hate it because some times when you are about to shoot it and there is a LOS... and you already hit the button... the skill does not go off so you have to get back in to your 4 light attacks. I also hate it that , when I am finally getting ready to do my burst.. the 20 seconds are always magically up, and it just recasts the skill. I guess its my bad lol..

I love it, because when I shoot it really hurts. I also love it for the minor berserk. and if I can make it work properly, I am a scary opponent.

quite odd that other channeled abilities like beam or soul assault just seem to hit people through trees and such a decent amount before actually breaking, yet our .1 sec channel on assassin's will wont go off when someone decides to stick part of their body behind a tree.

but even though i get salty about that, los SHOULD work against merciless resolve, as well as other skills. Whats more annoying is when the skill is used when no los is in place. not even animation cancelled at all. it just magically disappears along with the burst I was trying to line up.

EldritchPenguin

Koolio wrote: »

gethemshauna wrote: »

Actually it shouldn't be dodgeable, because it's the only Magblade's offensive ability that makes him playable in pvp.

That's what we need. 30 undodgeable merciless proccs from zergs.

That's not true. You'd get 120 dodgeable light attacks from zergs. Then you'd get 30 undodgeable Merciless procs.

exeeter702

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

I honeslty feel like in pvp its more effort than its worth, especially in console. On pc at least i have timers to better line it up. But still having to hit twice the amount of attacks due to dodge to trigger it and then having it not fire at all or when it does fire, it gets dodged as well.

Thankfully its getting some kind of rework. Im curious what they are going to do with it.

Dodged light and heavy attacks count towards Assassin's Will.

Sorry but im not sure i believe this. There is a reason most magblades bar swap to resto for the undodgeable love tap light attacks to guarantee the proc. I will test it

TX12001rwb17_ESO

They should just make it a passive ability that procs with every 4th light or heavy attack.

NeillMcAttack

The most annoying part of it for me, is the fact that the audio is super bugged out on when it is up and down! The fact that I get no visual indication without scanning my skill bar really hampers any kind of fluidity I may have in a fight.

In fact, even my skill bar bugs out from time to time. Indicating that I have one ready when I don't.

It's just completely bugged out TBH.

Buffler

as a mag dk i love assassins will, so do my flappy wings

exeeter702

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

I honeslty feel like in pvp its more effort than its worth, especially in console. On pc at least i have timers to better line it up. But still having to hit twice the amount of attacks due to dodge to trigger it and then having it not fire at all or when it does fire, it gets dodged as well.

Thankfully its getting some kind of rework. Im curious what they are going to do with it.

Dodged light and heavy attacks count towards Assassin's Will.

you are right, i was wrong. This whole time i was under the wrong impression. fml

Nelson_Rebel

An undodgeable ability that can hit up to 14k on players? Hell no, you out of your mind. Mag blade needs a buff to regular damage, not a broken ass skill like that

cpuScientist

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

They should just make it a passive ability that procs with every 4th light or heavy attack.

LOL then magDK just have to use wings and watch them kill themselves lol. No it's fine as is. But if something were to change, all it needs is for the arrow cast to refresh the buff.