What set to mix burning spell weave with?

superleeds19

Hey I was wondering what people mix burning spell weave with for mag sorc pve builds?

I'm farming infallaible ather and moon dancer now but what other sets people use with it for dps and sustain?

I will mainly use it for pve vet dungeons and the odd trial

Oakmontowls_ESO

Infallible is probably the most common. Another contender might be willpower

pizzaow

There are a few good options... Here are some options not listed yet:

Mother's Sorrow: Great for spell crit
Spinners: Great for Spell Penetrations (don't have to go sharpened with staffs)
Withered Hand: Great for sustain
TBS/Julianos: Decent other options. Julianos has slightly more damage, but TBS has extra health

3-piece + vMA + Monster Helm: This would be your best best, but a grind to get. For 3-piece, I'd recommend IA, Moondancer or Willpower and for monster helm most sorcs are running Illambris or Grothdar

superleeds19

@pizzaow I have julianos now with ilambris and it's massive damage. I was thinking of julianos and spell weave but the sustain would be too low I think

Also is willpower really that good anymore?

greylox

I mix with necropotence for pet sorc.

superleeds19

@greylox I've just tested necropotence instead of julianos and it didn't do as much damage

pizzaow

I'm assuming you are running dual staff, with 5 full-time pieces of BSW (i.e. not putting different 5-piece bonuses on the front bar and back bar).

In this setup you've got 6 other pieces to work with.

So, you could either run another full 5-piece set, or a 3-piece and 2-piece monster set. In other words, think of the monster helm as completing a willpower 5-piece set.... i.e. your 4th and 5th traits. Would you rather have the Illambris proc, or 2-mundas stones active? In this context willpower is a better 2 and 3 piece bonus compared to almost other sets 2 and 3 piece bonus (IMO, the exceptions being IA and Moondancer, because the 5% damage increase is really good).

You could always try Julianos and see if sustain is an issue or not... If your RNG luck is like mine, you will have solved the sustain issues by the time you finish farming for your other set If you are worried, make sure to have alchemy leveled up (medicinal use with trash pots buffs your recovery); you could slot ele drain and mix it into your rotation; weave medium/heavy attacks instead of light, or go for a set like withered hand or lich.

Anyway you slice it you will be sacrificing some damage for sustain... but that's the trick to balancing with everyone's slightly unique play style.

Molydeus

superleeds19 wrote: »

@greylox I've just tested necropotence instead of julianos and it didn't do as much damage

With a pet it does. All your pet's damage scales off your max magicka, and Necropotence is vastly superior compared to Julianos in that regard.

zaria

Molydeus wrote: »

superleeds19 wrote: »

@greylox I've just tested necropotence instead of julianos and it didn't do as much damage

With a pet it does. All your pet's damage scales off your max magicka, and Necropotence is vastly superior compared to Julianos in that regard.

Yes, I uses an Necropotence+Julianos setup myself. Probably not optimal but I had Julianos and was insane lucky and got purple ring and necklace from dolmen so I bought the last ring.
Strength of the Necropotence is using the pet AoE damage.
BSW + Necropotence would be insane, you could not use an monster set but might be worth going without.

WarpigFunk

BSW build is generally:

5 pc BSW / 2 pc ilambris / 3pc Moondancer

if you dont have Moondancer run Aether, if you dont have Aether run Willpower (all arcane, all spell dmg)

run 1 sharpened inferno staff and 1 sharpened lightning staff, or alternately 2 sharpened inferno staffs.

Xvorg

superleeds19 wrote: »

Hey I was wondering what people mix burning spell weave with for mag sorc pve builds?

I'm farming infallaible ather and moon dancer now but what other sets people use with it for dps and sustain?

I will mainly use it for pve vet dungeons and the odd trial

Scathing?

superleeds19

@WarpigFunk

Is this best in slot:

5 pc BSW / 2 pc ilambris / 3pc moondancer?

I now have enough ather to run it. Does anyone run 5 aether?

WarpigFunk

No one runs 5 aether except maybe healers. I run 5 aether on my healer but really only for VDSA since deeps is needed there.

BSW imo is not BiS for magsorc... I ran BSW for months, but recently swapped to Necropotence and my DPS inceeased substantially.

5 necro / 4 moondancer / 2 ilambris - maelstrom back bar - that's BiS imo.

I pull 32-33k DPS on a target skelly with just ele drain, with 5 necro/ 3 moondancer / 2 ilambris and random staffs.

edit: and I hasten to add, I'm not that good. So that DPS metric is meant to highlight the strength of the necro pet build.
There are people that pull higher than that in BSW - but I only ever managed around 28-29k in BSW.

Trihugger

Both Necro and BSW are viable. Necro is a bit... iffy because there are things that will kill the pet and then you're just SoL, hence why most stick with BSW.

Ilambris really is that good, even after it can't crit anymore. 4 Moondancer and a backbar Inferno Maelstrom otherwise is also standard.

superleeds19

@Trihugger @WarpigFunk thanks for comments.

I don't think I would ever swap ilambris its amazing in pve.

Is BSW really that much better than julianos,? I pull massive dps with julianos and understand what BSW can do but it's a proc chance?

Stannum

On mag DK I go 2Grotthgar + 5 Sun (including fire staff and sword) + 4(5) BSW (including sword)

UPD: Ooops sorry, have not noticed, that it was Sorc question.. But in theory may be you can replace Sun for Netch's tauch

Raghul

Perhaps these 2 video's might help you making a decision

Necropotence setup with pet: (40k dps on target dummy)
https://youtu.be/iZOZbIMXwuA

Bsw setup: (36k dps on target dummy)
https://youtu.be/y6nBy06Lzmo

AlwaysOnFire

I run BSW with Silks of the Sun on a mDK that specializes in fire damage, it's pretty sweet. But Silks overall won't help you with other kinds of damage, heals, or other magicka uses.

Xvorg

Scathing mage and spam force pulse

superleeds19

@Raghul thanks for the videos

The first one hurt my eyes he changed screens that much!

I think I'll run BSW with ilambris and ather until I get moon dancer

altemriel

pizzaow wrote: »

I'm assuming you are running dual staff, with 5 full-time pieces of BSW (i.e. not putting different 5-piece bonuses on the front bar and back bar).

In this setup you've got 6 other pieces to work with.

So, you could either run another full 5-piece set, or a 3-piece and 2-piece monster set. In other words, think of the monster helm as completing a willpower 5-piece set.... i.e. your 4th and 5th traits. Would you rather have the Illambris proc, or 2-mundas stones active? In this context willpower is a better 2 and 3 piece bonus compared to almost other sets 2 and 3 piece bonus (IMO, the exceptions being IA and Moondancer, because the 5% damage increase is really good).

You could always try Julianos and see if sustain is an issue or not... If your RNG luck is like mine, you will have solved the sustain issues by the time you finish farming for your other set If you are worried, make sure to have alchemy leveled up (medicinal use with trash pots buffs your recovery); you could slot ele drain and mix it into your rotation; weave medium/heavy attacks instead of light, or go for a set like withered hand or lich.

Anyway you slice it you will be sacrificing some damage for sustain... but that's the trick to balancing with everyone's slightly unique play style.

I am wearing 5 BSW + 5 Julianos + 1 Monster piece on my magblade and it works well .
was thinking on trying 5BSW, 3 willpower, 2 monster pieces, my magblade has not tried Maelstrom yet.

damn I was not even able to do the normal Maelstrom Arena on my stamDK , not even veteran mode LOLLLL

altemriel

zaria wrote: »

Molydeus wrote: »

superleeds19 wrote: »

@greylox I've just tested necropotence instead of julianos and it didn't do as much damage

With a pet it does. All your pet's damage scales off your max magicka, and Necropotence is vastly superior compared to Julianos in that regard.

Yes, I uses an Necropotence+Julianos setup myself. Probably not optimal but I had Julianos and was insane lucky and got purple ring and necklace from dolmen so I bought the last ring.
Strength of the Necropotence is using the pet AoE damage.
BSW + Necropotence would be insane, you could not use an monster set but might be worth going without.

This one got to try that , khajiit she got both full set of these.

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