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Skin tone change please.

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Why not put a skin tone change option in the crown store? My Imperial is very tan even on highest light option. Have all the skin tones please.
  • Katahdin
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    You can do that with the appearance change tokens
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  • ADarklore
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    I think OP wants to change the skin tone to something beyond the character screen racial offering. Imperials are naturally 'tan', so even the lightest setting still makes them somewhat dark. However, this is a RACE aspect, which means they cannot be made to be something they are not. As an example... Imperials cannot become as light as Bretons, because it's not part of their racial genetics.
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  • SanSan
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    You can do that with the appearance change tokens

    Does it give me all the skin tone options or just the race specific ones?
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    You can do that with the appearance change tokens

    The option OP is asking for isn't available in the Character Cretor and therefore couldn't be changed to by using the Appearance Change Token.

    He wants Imperials with a lighter skin tone that is currently available for them. Skin tones like the Tharn family has.
    ADarklore wrote: »
    I think OP wants to change the skin tone to something beyond the character screen racial offering. Imperials are naturally 'tan', so even the lightest setting still makes them somewhat dark. However, this is a RACE aspect, which means they cannot be made to be something they are not. As an example... Imperials cannot become as light as Bretons, because it's not part of their racial genetics.

    There are lighter skinned Imperials, however. I am not well-versed on the particularities of the races of Men since they do not really interest me much, but I know there are some skin tones differences depending on where in Cyrodiil they come from (and, again, the Tharn family is very pale).
    Edited by Abeille on March 13, 2017 3:24PM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    SanSan wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    You can do that with the appearance change tokens

    Does it give me all the skin tone options or just the race specific ones?
    They're racially specific, and you get to pay an absurd 1500 Crowns for it!

    What a bargain!!! /sarcasm

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  • ADarklore
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    SanSan wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    You can do that with the appearance change tokens

    Does it give me all the skin tone options or just the race specific ones?

    I responded to your question above... an appearance change token takes you back to the character creation screen with the same options as the original character creation.
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  • SanSan
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    SanSan wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    You can do that with the appearance change tokens

    Does it give me all the skin tone options or just the race specific ones?

    I responded to your question above... an appearance change token takes you back to the character creation screen with the same options as the original character creation.
    That's saddening. Thanks :(
    I didn't refresh so it didn't appear.
    Edited by SanSan on March 13, 2017 3:24PM
  • ADarklore
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    SanSan wrote: »
    ADarklore wrote: »
    SanSan wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    You can do that with the appearance change tokens

    Does it give me all the skin tone options or just the race specific ones?

    I responded to your question above... an appearance change token takes you back to the character creation screen with the same options as the original character creation.

    That's not what I want as I said.

    And you're not going to get what you want because skin tone is racially based... want a lighter-skinned character, pick a different race. Much like how the racial passives work.
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  • SanSan
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    SanSan wrote: »
    ADarklore wrote: »
    SanSan wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    You can do that with the appearance change tokens

    Does it give me all the skin tone options or just the race specific ones?

    I responded to your question above... an appearance change token takes you back to the character creation screen with the same options as the original character creation.

    That's not what I want as I said.

    And you're not going to get what you want because skin tone is racially based... want a lighter-skinned character, pick a different race. Much like how the racial passives work.

    Sorry for that reply. Thought you were someone else.
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    Well, vampires are quite pale. >:)
  • Abeille
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    So... Is everyone just going to ignore that Imperials do have lighter skin colors than the ones available in the Character Creator? :neutral:
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
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    Abeille wrote: »
    So... Is everyone just going to ignore that Imperials do have lighter skin colors than the ones available in the Character Creator? :neutral:

    I believe so. :/
  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    Abeille wrote: »
    So... Is everyone just going to ignore that Imperials do have lighter skin colors than the ones available in the Character Creator? :neutral:
    Just go Vampire.

    You'll be whiter than sour cream at that point. :D


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  • Abeille
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    Abeille wrote: »
    So... Is everyone just going to ignore that Imperials do have lighter skin colors than the ones available in the Character Creator? :neutral:
    Just go Vampire.

    You'll be whiter than sour cream at that point. :D

    I'm good, my Imperial is from Bravil and it's sunny down there :P

    Or was, before the Butcher...

    Anyways, I suppose if someone really REALLY wants their Imperial to be super pale, Vampire Stage 1 is an option, sorta. But then they have to give up on their eye color too. Perhaps they just want to be from the northern parts of Cyrodiil (if that's where the paler Imperials come from. I honestly know very little about them, I just know that they exist).
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
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    SanSan wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    You can do that with the appearance change tokens

    Does it give me all the skin tone options or just the race specific ones?

    @SanSan

    Like with the hairstyles pack that has all the original styles you'll only be able to select from what is already available for your race. I would expect any lack offering for skin tones to have the same restrictions as well.
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    Like with the hairstyles pack that has all the original styles you'll only be able to select from what is already available for your race. I would expect any lack offering for skin tones to have the same restrictions as well.

    Yeah, I do not expect a Skin Tone pack to be added to the store to be honest. Although, I think the number of available skin tones in Character Creator needs to be wider for some races. I'm thinking mainly of Orc. I wanted greener Orcs.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Katahdin
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    Abeille wrote: »
    So... Is everyone just going to ignore that Imperials do have lighter skin colors than the ones available in the Character Creator? :neutral:

    Didn't realize the OP was asking for something different. Read it wrong.

    Doesn't matter really. The only options are what are in the character creation screen or vampire. Can't get anything different atm.

    I've made my 2 Imperials with a tan because they are warriors and I figures they spend alot of time outside.
    Edited by Katahdin on March 13, 2017 4:03PM
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  • mesmerizedish
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    So all the racists can make white-ass redguards? No thanks.
  • MarkusLiberty
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    So all the racists can make white-ass redguards? No thanks.

    Redguards are a combination of various ethnicities and cultures based on real life african and middle eastern. So there are definitely light skinned redguards, a few of them appear on this piece of concept artwork from the thieves guild expansion

    The-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Thieves-Guild-Games.jpg
    Edited by MarkusLiberty on March 13, 2017 4:57PM
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  • Abeille
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    So... Is everyone just going to ignore that Imperials do have lighter skin colors than the ones available in the Character Creator? :neutral:

    Didn't realize the OP was asking for something different. Read it wrong.

    Doesn't matter really. The only options are what are in the character creation screen or vampire. Can't get anything different atm.

    I've made my 2 Imperials with a tan because they are warriors and I figures they spend alot of time outside.

    Yes, the option isn't available at the moment, which is why the OP is asking for the option to be made available.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • KochDerDamonen
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    So all the racists can make white-ass redguards? No thanks.

    @mesmerizedish Yeah, I don't want any racists making black-ass nords :^)

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    Yeah there's a lot of annoyance with the variance between what's available for players (see: black hair for altmer, lighter skintones for Imperials) and what npcs can have. It would be pretty asinine to put it in at some point and charge us all to use it, too, but eh.
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    So all the racists can make white-ass redguards? No thanks.

    Redguards are a combination of various ethnicities and cultures based on real life african and middle eastern. So there are definitely light skinned redguards, a few of them appear on this piece of concept artwork from the thieves guild expansion

    The-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Thieves-Guild-Games.jpg

    None of those are white. You can make lighter skinned Redguards in the game already, but within reason.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on March 13, 2017 7:29PM
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    Imperials are based on IRL Italians/Iberians. They are naturally tanned.

    If you want to play a white hero, then pick Breton or Nord, or become a vampire.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on March 13, 2017 7:31PM
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    So all the racists can make white-ass redguards? No thanks.

    Redguards are a combination of various ethnicities and cultures based on real life african and middle eastern. So there are definitely light skinned redguards, a few of them appear on this piece of concept artwork from the thieves guild expansion

    The-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Thieves-Guild-Games.jpg

    None of those are white. You can make lighter skinned Redguards in the game already, but within reason.

    Redguards already have the lore-friendly options available to them. This is not the case with other races of Men and Mer and it is not fair to harm the very lore-friendly customization options of other races to stop people from giving skins that you deem "too white" for Redguards.

    Some hair styles and adornments have race restrictions. They can very well do the same here.
    Imperials are based on IRL Italians/Iberians. They are naturally tanned.

    If you want to play a white hero, then pick Breton or Nord, or become a vampire.

    Both Imperials and Italians/Iberians are much more diverse than you might have imagined.
    Edited by Abeille on March 13, 2017 7:43PM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
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    So all the racists can make white-ass redguards? No thanks.

    Redguards are a combination of various ethnicities and cultures based on real life african and middle eastern. So there are definitely light skinned redguards, a few of them appear on this piece of concept artwork from the thieves guild expansion

    The-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Thieves-Guild-Games.jpg

    The redguards are based off of the Moors of West and North Africa .
    Most are Dark skinned but some are light skinned
    Edited by Anti_Virus on March 13, 2017 7:47PM
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  • AlwaysOnFire
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    ok but when will bethesda allow me to play an altmer with a skin tone like in Arena?

    latest?cb=20120612171421

    i understand 'golden skin' but let me have a nicely toasted altmer as well as the Custard Creme altmer, the Banana Laffy Taffy altmer, and the Grapefruit Rind altmer
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    ok but when will bethesda allow me to play an altmer with a skin tone like in Arena?

    latest?cb=20120612171421

    i understand 'golden skin' but let me have a nicely toasted altmer as well as the Custard Creme altmer, the Banana Laffy Taffy altmer, and the Grapefruit Rind altmer

    Ohh I would like that. I think they made the darker Altmeri skins into an Ayleid characteristic instead, perhaps that's why we don't have it available? Are there any Altmer NPCs in game with a darker skin tone than what is available to us, like happens to black hair?
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Duiwel
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    OP your options are:

    Make a Breton

    OR

    Become a vampire for a more pale complexion.

    Imperials are based off "Romans" in a way and they are Mediterranean and are very tan even if Tamriel is a fantasy wold it draws elements from certain things and in the case of Imperials it drew from the Roman Empire :wink:
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  • BlackWormDisciple
    I know I'm late to this topic, but it seems rather depressing to see a number of these responses ignore the fact that Imperials (like the real-world Italians and the ancient Romans) are a very diverse people, both in terms of the Cyrodiilic people's culture but also their physical traits. I'll probably chime in one last time since I know I've discussed this enough.

    As @Abeille has mentioned, there are plenty of fairer skinned Imperials walking around - the most prominent examples being a number of the Tharn family and many who are part of the different Legions throughout Tamriel. And it's not just Online that boasts pale and light skinned Imperials (both Colovians and Nibenese, by the way - their differences are cultural only. Just had to get that out there). Oblivion and Skyrim had plenty walking around.

    The "typical" image of an Imperial doesn't mean "all Imperials" - just like the typical image of a Breton does not mean all Bretons have facial features that resemble a cross between Man and Mer's with spindly limbs and manes of curly dark brown hair, nor are all Nords giant, pasty-skinned barbarians with blonde hair and blue eyes.

    The character creation system needs to be adjusted for a number of the races - Imperials needing either additional skintone options (just like the Orcs do as Abeille mentioned), races like the High Elves need more hair color options because we know there are plenty with black hair and darker hair colors, Argonians could use extra color options for their scales, etc. And a number of these limitations on players can be fixed by giving those options found on NPCs of these different races to the players - it seems odd to have numerous NPCs display traits that their race clearly has physically while players are given the creative shaft.
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