Can vDSA be soloed?

Vaoh

I understand the difficulties of vDSA. It is a formidable challenge for most groups.

With that being said, I've heard that players have soloed DSA on Normal. It was easy enough to the point where this was possible. However, lots of things that you can get away with on Normal are impossible to get away with on Vet.

So now I have to ask the question - can Dragonstar Arena be soloed on Vet?

I want to know purely from a mechanics-perspective. Of course it would be very difficult to accomplish. What matters though, should someone try to do this, is that they don't waste their time getting really far and then coming across a mechanic requiring two players.

That is all

Magdalina

It's been soloed back when it was vet 14. Pretty sure this was before cp cap too and the guy had like 700 cp (which is not that far off from what we have now) or something. He was a DK tank as I remember. Mechanically it should still be possible yes, I don't know if it's possible to survive the amounts of damage you'd be getting there now though.
There was a video of it too but I can't currently find it because on cell

Tryxus

I think the Ice Stage is gonna be very difficult: keeping the mobs at bay while relighting the bonfires

Sacrifice Stage: killing all 3 sacrifices by yourself before they reach the altars

Graveyard stage: I believe if you're down the hole without anyone alive on top, the stage resets...

Vaoh

Magdalina wrote: »

It's been soloed back when it was vet 14. Pretty sure this was before cp cap too and the guy had like 700 cp (which is not that far off from what we have now) or something. He was a DK tank as I remember. Mechanically it should still be possible yes, I don't know if it's possible to survive the amounts of damage you'd be getting there now though.
There was a video of it too but I can't currently find it because on cell

That's so cheap if it's true -_- doesn't count!

Tryxus wrote: »

I think the Ice Stage is gonna be very difficult: keeping the mobs at bay while relighting the bonfires

Sacrifice Stage: killing all 3 sacrifices by yourself before they reach the altars

Graveyard stage: I believe if you're down the hole without anyone alive on top, the stage resets...

Graveyard Stage..... can't the boss still be attacked though? Those named adds should be the only enemies remaining invincible. Not sure

Padhraigh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4UVIisJj8

Here it is. Still a damn good watch.

mobicera

I'm not sure if the minibosses become near invulnerable on normal during the graveyard stage. I was soloing this on normal for footman's gear a while back and never once had a reason to go underground. I am also not the best player out there so if you can screw it up and not kill a target fast enough etc. I would have at least once out of maybe 50 runs.
On vet as you well know it's a different story and as far as I know during this boss round one player needs to go underground and this will reset the round if no one is alive up top.

DRXHarbinger

I don't think you can do round 8 anymore. As soon as you drop down it'll reset. I don't know if you'll be able to kill the boss whilst they are up. That would be tankiness on a whole new level.

The last boss though may overwhelm you now. Will be way to many Flame summons. Have you tried it in normal. Also the dwemer round. Don't you die straight away if you get both fire and ice?

Vaoh

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

I don't think you can do round 8 anymore. As soon as you drop down it'll reset. I don't know if you'll be able to kill the boss whilst they are up. That would be tankiness on a whole new level.

The last boss though may overwhelm you now. Will be way to many Flame summons. Have you tried it in normal. Also the dwemer round. Don't you die straight away if you get both fire and ice?

Is tankiness the only factor though? Like if I wanted to try this and just didn't go down the portal, I could still DPS the actual boss?

The last boss of vDSA is definitely a tough one. Figuring out a way to get there is my first goal

DRXHarbinger

Yeah the round 8 boss. The vampire lord can be killed throughout the entire fight. I've literally just finished Vdsa and was killable the whole time. The mage has an instakill mechanic (charge orb attack) must be dodged or bashed prior. The other guy doesn't do a great deal I don't think. You'll need to focus down the ghosts at the start.

Other rounds too. You'll need to have a way to kill / close on the archers on round 4 iirc. They drain you and instakill. And the shadow casters. I'm not sure they target pets. I'm guessing it could be done. But you are in for one long lone long lone night lol.

DRXHarbinger

Also beware fellow console user. I got disconnected twice. Exactly the same issue as mol.

DannyLV702

Padhraigh wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4UVIisJj8

Here it is. Still a damn good watch.

That was pretty cool

Strider_Roshin

Anything is possible if you play magicka.

Kidz_BeAstx

Probably.

cpuScientist

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Padhraigh wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4UVIisJj8

Here it is. Still a damn good watch.

That was pretty cool

The best part is when the boss said as let's even the odds a little, and gets 2 more bosses lol. Like admitting that this one guy is too much for him lol.

X3ina

@Kidz_BeAstx --->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjKYMWGc54

cpuScientist

He should've killed with a leap

Kidz_BeAstx

@X3ina I edited my comment. Just woke up this morning and I wasn't paying any attention. I am well aware that anything is possible, however I don't know if I'd want to have to spend forever just to 1 hour and a half trying to get 2 keys, when I can just ask for 1 bis healer, 1 bis tank, and 1 bis damage dealer from my trials guild known as Biohazard on PS4 NA.

Oh and by the way, not everyone can pull that off. Although it may be possible, let's face it when I say that 95% of the community in this game is full of mediocre players. I'm not calling anyone here a bad player, I am just saying that it is in general.

Masel

When this weeks PC EU leaderboard started the first one to be on the board was a guy alone called jamie-something with a 6k score, running a sorcerer. He finished it a few minutes after the board reset and there was noone else on the board. So he either did the arena alone or at least did the last boss alone. But as far as I know, as soon as you start in a group and everyone else leaves you get ported out, so I have no idea how he did it.

If he reads this I'd be interested in how that was possible.

Magdalina

Vaoh wrote: »

Graveyard Stage..... can't the boss still be attacked though? Those named adds should be the only enemies remaining invincible. Not sure

Yes the boss of last round of arena 9 definitely remains damage-able; the minibosses hurt though and I'm pretty sure they enrage over time. Melee definitely does at least, once the people died and I didn't get a chance to res (was tanking) and he ended up oneshotting me at ~50k health and ~18k shield through block. Suppose you could kite him but if mage enrages too you'd be pretty screwed.

That said I'm pretty sure they drop their shield at some point even if the golden shadows don't get killed. It's either a rather long timer or after all other ads die or a timer after all ads die or something. At least on 3rd and 4th rounds they do that - you'd get a short window when you're able to do damage, then they shield again. I don't think it'd be possible for just one person to burn them within that window though.

Alcast

petsorc *cough*

Vaoh

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Also beware fellow console user. I got disconnected twice. Exactly the same issue as mol.

Very true. That would be a nightmare after like 4hrs progress

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Anything is possible if you play magicka.

You sound salty man Everything can be soloed on any class spec, and is usually easier on Stamina tbh. *Magicka Sorcs* are unique because two of their abilities our required for certain soloes that require Bolt Escape (ex. Planar Inhibitor) or a pet (ex. Dranos Velador).

Masel92 wrote: »

When this weeks PC EU leaderboard started the first one to be on the board was a guy alone called jamie-something with a 6k score, running a sorcerer. He finished it a few minutes after the board reset and there was noone else on the board. So he either did the arena alone or at least did the last boss alone. But as far as I know, as soon as you start in a group and everyone else leaves you get ported out, so I have no idea how he did it.

If he reads this I'd be interested in how that was possible.

He probably just had a really bad run lol. If you run with four people, and someone leaves, the new players don't get on the Leaderboard. That guy was in there for like 2-3hrs probably and his original team all left overtime. If someone soloes vDSA they will be in their all day. Expect less than 1K.

Magdalina wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Graveyard Stage..... can't the boss still be attacked though? Those named adds should be the only enemies remaining invincible. Not sure

Yes the boss of last round of arena 9 definitely remains damage-able; the minibosses hurt though and I'm pretty sure they enrage over time. Melee definitely does at least, once the people died and I didn't get a chance to res (was tanking) and he ended up oneshotting me at ~50k health and ~18k shield through block. Suppose you could kite him but if mage enrages too you'd be pretty screwed.

That said I'm pretty sure they drop their shield at some point even if the golden shadows don't get killed. It's either a rather long timer or after all other ads die or a timer after all ads die or something. At least on 3rd and 4th rounds they do that - you'd get a short window when you're able to do damage, then they shield again. I don't think it'd be possible for just one person to burn them within that window though.

Ty! This helps a lot. If this is the case I'm positive it is soloable then

Alcast wrote: »

petsorc *cough*

I try to avoid using the pet. Makes a lot of fights too easy.

Ep1kMalware

Magdalina wrote: »

It's been soloed back when it was vet 14. Pretty sure this was before cp cap too and the guy had like 700 cp (which is not that far off from what we have now) or something. He was a DK tank as I remember. Mechanically it should still be possible yes, I don't know if it's possible to survive the amounts of damage you'd be getting there now though.
There was a video of it too but I can't currently find it because on cell

I've done it when it was cp14, it was wasy easier back then. Cp14 was slightly harder than normal. As for OP question in theory yes, but the amounts of damage you take and the amount of adds will likely ovecome you. I'd say if you can make it past stage 3 you have a fair shot. Stage 3 can be heavy on damage. Stage7 has a bit of mechanics and lots of incomming crows control.