Shrouded Daggers vs Power Extraction

malicia

I'm currently using this guide as a baseline for my stamblade. It uses Power Extraction as an AoE, but also to give Major Brutality in its Group Content – Dungeons section.

For smallish groups of mobs, like you'll typically find in Public Dungeons, what do you think of Shrouded Daggers as an alternative to Power Extraction?

SD is not really AoE as it only attacks 3 targets, but it has double the reach and more damage per target. Also, it gains from the DW Slaughter passive below 25%.

PE on the other hand, deals AoE and increases Ulti regeneration.

Are there any advantages to PE that I'm missing? I'm starting to feel that SD will serve me better as a Major Brutality generator than PE.

DRXHarbinger

Extraction is trash. Daggers hit for way way way harder and let you open the fight better rather than lunging in. Plus it snares them for you to get hail up and trap down.

Flameheart

For small groups or in PvP SD sounds good, but for 4-man-dungeon content trash groups usually involve more than just 3 adds and the clever tank will try to pile them up (pulling melees to not moving casters and archers, rest is done by DK chains or Swarm Mother) for the DDs, so at 3+ mobs I would use PE any day over SD.

Huge trash group of mobs + Caltrops + Endless Hail + Dawnbreaker/Rend + Extraction spam = total annihilation and scores of up to 100k+ dps in Combat Metrix.

It's up to you if you want to change your skill set up situation wise and count mobs each time for PvE. Would be just too much effort for me, but for some bosses with 2 major health adds it might make even sense.

As you mentioned public dungeons, I don't know if the difference between PE and SD will have even a feelable impact on combat time. Those mobs are such low health they should be dead within a few seconds either way...but ok, I look at that from the perspective of a CP 600+ player.

If you wanne change to SD just for sake of leveling that skill, sure do it. I always max out all skills of a line and some even for both morphs, because you never know when you might need it and what suprises in skill changes ESO developement may offer one day.

PS: The above linked guide is the best Stamblade PvE DD guide that exists imho.

malicia

Thanks for the replies!

I'm using a skill bar switcher add-on, so I think I'll create a profile with SD and another with PE. Most of my playing is solo, but I'm slowly trying to teach myself proper rotation habits for group content, so I'll make sure to keep the two in the same skill slot.

Seraphayel

Shrouded Daggers. I don't want to miss this skill. Amazing damage, great utility. Use it.

Lythandra

malicia wrote: »

Thanks for the replies!

I'm using a skill bar switcher add-on, so I think I'll create a profile with SD and another with PE. Most of my playing is solo, but I'm slowly trying to teach myself proper rotation habits for group content, so I'll make sure to keep the two in the same skill slot.

I'm gonna do that also. I have been using PE for quite a while and am happy with it but want to try SD also. I haven't even leveled it yet.