[BUG] Maelstrom Destro Staff Enchantment (Crushing Wall) Bugged

Colt18

The 'Crushing Wall' enchantment on Maelstrom Destruction Staves is currently bugged. When in a group with multiple other people also running Wall of Elements in conjunction with a maelstrom staff, only one person at a time will get the buff to their light attacks. It will be the first person to cast wall of elements that will be granted the crushing wall bonus to light/heavy attacks while everyone else will not get the buff until the first person's wall runs out, at which point another person will get the buff, but only one person at a time will have the bonus to their light/heavy attacks.
I've included a video of one of our tests in which you will see that, without wall down, my light attacks were hitting for 1114 and 1783 on non-crits and crits, respectively. With wall down and the crushing wall buff, my light attacks were hitting for 2154 and 3446 on non-crits and crits, respectively. Now when I applied wall before my buddy did, I gained the buff to my light attacks, while his light attacks did not gain the buff from his wall. When he applied wall first, he then got the buff to his light attacks while mine were still hitting the same values as if I never applied wall in the first place, it was only until his wall ran out when my light attacks started to get the buff. We have tested this with more people in a group and while using the different forms of wall (flame, frost, shock) and it made no difference. This bug affects all competitive raiding guilds and considering how hard and long most of us had to work for a maelstrom staff, it would be nice to see this fixed as soon as possible (along with Maw of Lorkhaj on console).

Link to video:
http://xboxclips.com/Colt Tanks/dac4d025-e6e1-4167-aac5-67ded572ac3e/embed

LiquidPony

I can confirm that this bug exists on XB1 as well.

xynode

That makes two reports (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/324753/maelstrom-destro-staff-enchant-broken-ps4#latest), lets hope this gets fixed rather than just lazily added to an expansion pack.

The bug as tested so far is this... the FIRST person to lay down their wall of elements per rotation... receives their bonus. the rest do not. BAD bug. if you have 6 people using VMA staves...5 of them may as well have not bothered farming for them since they don't work.

Trouble13691

How has this not been addressed yet.. so much dps loss. What is your raid group doing to counter this atm.

souravami

Does this bug exist on PC and ps4 as well? Can anybody please test and clarify?

Shadzilla

On the bright side, when its fixed stamina will be driven farther away from the stadium magicka currently resides in. The name of that stadium is "acceptable competitive end game trial dps".

xynode

Trouble13691 wrote: »

How has this not been addressed yet.. so much dps loss. What is your raid group doing to counter this atm.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/324753/maelstrom-destro-staff-enchant-broken-ps4#latest
noted it here very early on with the patch release also...heard nothing about any kind of fix or even confirming it from ZOS.
In their dev stream a while back they said if they know how a bug works they will test it and fix it. I sent SOOOO many bug reports..this one is simple

The method. Get two people with a vma staff. drop wall of elements. watch ONLY the first player to place that skill get the bonus while the other does not....problem found, now fix it(or try to).

However even with the very simple above explanation of how to recreate the bug, NOTHING in response apart from "thank you for your ticket". /facepalm.

xynode

souravami wrote: »

Does this bug exist on PC and ps4 as well? Can anybody please test and clarify?

bug exists on ps4 for sure, i think it's cross platform.

LiquidPony

@xynode I hate to be that cynical whiny gaming guy ... but given the state of the end-game (MoL totally broken and HRC half-broken on console, Maelstrom bow broken, Maelstrom staff broken), and the total lack of response from ZOS, I have zero expectation that any of this stuff will be fixed before Morrowind releases.

When I scroll through the Bug Reports forum, in the first 10 pages of posts, there are about 5 bugs that have actual ZOS responses (aside from "moved to Bug Reports forum"). They're mostly quest bugs and furniture/housing/crown crate bugs.

None of the end-game related bugs (MoL, HRC, Maelstrom bow, Maelstrom staff) have responses and many of them were posted weeks ago.

So, I have to wonder if the ZOS triage process leads to difficult end-game specific bugs being more-or-less ignored either because the end-game community is small or the bugs are difficult to fix.

Nonetheless, I think it really sucks that we can't even get a "we are aware of the issue and are investigating" response. As it stands right now, it could be that no one at ZOS is actually aware that any of this stuff is broken, but of course we have no idea because they aren't communicating.

Colt18

Trouble13691 wrote: »

How has this not been addressed yet.. so much dps loss. What is your raid group doing to counter this atm.

@Trouble13691 depending on class/rotation (sorcs and magplars work well for this), you can use a damage enchant (eg. Flame) on one of your staffs along with a spell dmg enchant on the other and get good uptime on both. Youll hardly lose any dps this way over a maelstrom staff.

Trouble13691

@Colt18 Yeah i think some of our sorcs are doing the same. On my mag dk i really dont need more flame damage was considering poisons maybe ?

Colt18

@Trouble13691
I would recommend the mag dk in the group be the one to run a maelstrom staff cause we dont swap to our back bar as often as other classes do, making a second enchant not as effective for us since we wont get as much uptime on a back bar enchant as other classes. (Unless you back bar wall then a second enchant would be good) But as far as poisons go I would probably just stick to an enchant, i dont know how much damage poisons can do and they also arent guaranteed to proc on light attacks or abilities.

Trouble13691

@ZOS_GinaBruno have your people seen this?

Trouble13691

Yeah sounds fair thanks for your insight.