Alchemy Hireling

RavenRoxie

Alchemy Hireling.....
Where is it?
Why, oh why, is this not a thing?...

As someone who is totally addicted to using poisons and pots in Cyrodiil... Like... Nothing would make me happier then waking up to a small pile of herbs and shrooms in my mail.
But, sadly, this is the only crafting field that does not provide a hireling to unlock.

ZOS.. Why you do dis?
Feelsbadman

LordGavus

I have wondered this too.

KochDerDamonen

Get rid of snakeblood finally ZOS.

There's no risk/reward to potions with negative effects, they're just bad... no reason to want this passive.

SanSan

There is an Alchemy hireling, it's a Khajiit.
Always steals your items.
Never trust a Khajiit :P

SydneyGrey

SanSan wrote: »

There is an Alchemy hireling, it's a Khajiit.
Always steals your items.
Never trust a Khajiit :P

A Khajiit would steal your 'shrooms, and sell your nirnroot on the black market.

Unsent.Soul

Search function. Use it.

STEVIL

RavenRoxie wrote: »

Alchemy Hireling.....
Where is it?
Why, oh why, is this not a thing?...

As someone who is totally addicted to using poisons and pots in Cyrodiil... Like... Nothing would make me happier then waking up to a small pile of herbs and shrooms in my mail.
But, sadly, this is the only crafting field that does not provide a hireling to unlock.

ZOS.. Why you do dis?
Feelsbadman

its called Remains Silent.

RavenRoxie

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Search function. Use it.

Hateraid. Stop drinking it.

psxfloh

You can have a look at the "Shadowy Supplier" in the "Dark Brotherhood" skill line.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/270866/shadowy-supplier-passive

Once every 20h hours you can go to an Outlaws Refuge and talk to him. Take the first option and you get either a few potions or a little bag with 3x3 different alchemy/poison ingredients and a solvent. Chances for the latter seem to be 3/4, at least for me..

Not as good as getting a hireling's letter in your mailbox every 12 hours, but still better than nothing, and only for 1 skill point..

FluffyReachWitch

I wish there were a hireling.

Remains-Silent is nice, but she is stuck behind the Dark Brotherhood skill line and the DLC that it comes with. I don't really want to go murdering with all my characters just for bonus ingredients.

STEVIL

psxfloh wrote: »

You can have a look at the "Shadowy Supplier" in the "Dark Brotherhood" skill line.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/270866/shadowy-supplier-passive

Once every 20h hours you can go to an Outlaws Refuge and talk to him. Take the first option and you get either a few potions or a little bag with 3x3 different alchemy/poison ingredients and a solvent. Chances for the latter seem to be 3/4, at least for me..

Not as good as getting a hireling's letter in your mailbox every 12 hours, but still better than nothing, and only for 1 skill point..

DO NOT DO THIS.

take the second option. the first option is "Remain silent" and it will get you nothing but an aura of mystery, deep mystery.

"if you doubt your numbers, your number of doubts will grow."
Martha Washington 1778 (pretty sure this is right)


:-)

psxfloh

STEVIL wrote: »

psxfloh wrote: »

You can have a look at the "Shadowy Supplier" in the "Dark Brotherhood" skill line.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/270866/shadowy-supplier-passive

Once every 20h hours you can go to an Outlaws Refuge and talk to him. Take the first option and you get either a few potions or a little bag with 3x3 different alchemy/poison ingredients and a solvent. Chances for the latter seem to be 3/4, at least for me..

Not as good as getting a hireling's letter in your mailbox every 12 hours, but still better than nothing, and only for 1 skill point..

DO NOT DO THIS.

take the second option. the first option is "Remain silent" and it will get you nothing but an aura of mystery, deep mystery.

"if you doubt your numbers, your number of doubts will grow."
Martha Washington 1778 (pretty sure this is right)


:-)

well.. ok.. technically the first option is indeed "<Remain silent>", but apart from the "aura of deep mystery" nothing happens and the cooldown won't be triggered.

So take the first meaningful option, for god's sake.. which is actually the second option.

@STEVIL EDIT: added deep before mystery

Unsent.Soul

RavenRoxie wrote: »

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Search function. Use it.

Hateraid. Stop drinking it.

Or grow up and realize this topic has been brought up a few dozen times. Just because some new kiddo thinks he/she has A fresh, new, innovative idea doesn't mean this hand has been played before.

STEVIL

psxfloh wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

psxfloh wrote: »

You can have a look at the "Shadowy Supplier" in the "Dark Brotherhood" skill line.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/270866/shadowy-supplier-passive

Once every 20h hours you can go to an Outlaws Refuge and talk to him. Take the first option and you get either a few potions or a little bag with 3x3 different alchemy/poison ingredients and a solvent. Chances for the latter seem to be 3/4, at least for me..

Not as good as getting a hireling's letter in your mailbox every 12 hours, but still better than nothing, and only for 1 skill point..

DO NOT DO THIS.

take the second option. the first option is "Remain silent" and it will get you nothing but an aura of mystery, deep mystery.

"if you doubt your numbers, your number of doubts will grow."
Martha Washington 1778 (pretty sure this is right)


:-)

well.. ok.. technically the first option is indeed "<Remain silent>", but apart from the "aura of mystery" nothing happens and the cooldown won't be triggered.

So take the first meaningful option, for god's sake.. which is actually the second option.

Deep mystery...

RavenRoxie

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

RavenRoxie wrote: »

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Search function. Use it.

Hateraid. Stop drinking it.

Or grow up and realize this topic has been brought up a few dozen times. Just because some new kiddo thinks he/she has A fresh, new, innovative idea doesn't mean this hand has been played before.

I am a 30 year old woman. Your assumptions fail, sir. Did not think to look this question up, honestly. But, threads are created daily about the same crap others have asked in the past. Is what it is. No need to be hateful. If you don't like a topic, don't bother reading it or replying to it? Makes sense, yeah? lol

Anyway, would actually know ZOS view on this. Just seems silly that hirelings are available for all other crafting areas besides alchemy

idk

Do not take away my snakes blood. It's amazing.

Nerouyn

RavenRoxie wrote: »

Why, oh why, is this not a thing?...

MMO economies rest on consumables like potions.

An alchemy hireling wouldn't obliterate the economy but it would have a negative impact.

Not that I'm against the idea. 9 out of 10 times I pick up an alchemy writ it wants 3 nirnroot and I just can't keep up with demand when I'm doing that on multiple characters.

Reverb

In the game's early days I heard an explanation that made a lot of sense: Alchemy hirelings wern't implemented because there was worry that the reagents were already too readily available. They were the only crafting materials that were the same in every single zone, so every character could pick the same flowers no matter what level or map location. At that time all other crafting materials were based on the zone level, and so had a semi--limited availability.

With the implementation of One Tamriel, this explanation no longer holds water. This should really be revisited by the developers.

RavenRoxie

Reverb wrote: »

In the game's early days I heard an explanation that made a lot of sense: Alchemy hirelings wern't implemented because there was worry that the reagents were already too readily available. They were the only crafting materials that were the same in every single zone, so every character could pick the same flowers no matter what level or map location. At that time all other crafting materials were based on the zone level, and so had a semi--limited availability.

With the implementation of One Tamriel, this explanation no longer holds water. This should really be revisited by the developers.

Yess that makes perfect sense now! But, even now, you can't farm mats for higher levels then what you are until you hit 50, so maybe a hireling that you can't put points into until you are 50+ would make sense XD

Taleof2Cities

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Do not take away my snakes blood. It's amazing.

I added another "insightful" for you, good sir ...

Uriel_Nocturne

It's kind of odd indeed that Alchemy is the only Crafting Skill without a Hireling.

This needs to be added, @ZOS . Get rid of the broken Snakeblood Passive that does absolutely nothing, and give us an Alchemy Hireling!

STEVIL

Reverb wrote: »

In the game's early days I heard an explanation that made a lot of sense: Alchemy hirelings wern't implemented because there was worry that the reagents were already too readily available. They were the only crafting materials that were the same in every single zone, so every character could pick the same flowers no matter what level or map location. At that time all other crafting materials were based on the zone level, and so had a semi--limited availability.

With the implementation of One Tamriel, this explanation no longer holds water. This should really be revisited by the developers.

Exactly! As of 1T all that iron and maple i gathered while at tier-1 crafts (or still being gathered now by my non-equip crafters) me end-game cp160 gear just like the mountain flower i gathered anytime anywhere works for my cp150 potions.

KochDerDamonen

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

RavenRoxie wrote: »

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Search function. Use it.

Hateraid. Stop drinking it.

Or grow up and realize this topic has been brought up a few dozen times. Just because some new kiddo thinks he/she has A fresh, new, innovative idea doesn't mean this hand has been played before.

@Unsent.Soul To most forum-goers, if it's not on the first couple of pages it's a dead thread. Point out a fresh recent thread on this topic. It always takes more than one thread to get ZOS's attention, and even more to get them off their rumps and change something.

The reasoning behind having Snakeblood (useless trash passive) instead of a hireling is outdated, the devs really should sweep back over this.

Uriel_Nocturne

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

RavenRoxie wrote: »

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Search function. Use it.

Hateraid. Stop drinking it.

Or grow up and realize this topic has been brought up a few dozen times. Just because some new kiddo thinks he/she has A fresh, new, innovative idea doesn't mean this hand has been played before.

@Unsent.Soul To most forum-goers, if it's not on the first couple of pages it's a dead thread. Point out a fresh recent thread on this topic. It always takes more than one thread to get ZOS's attention, and even more to get them off their rumps and change something.

The reasoning behind having Snakeblood (useless trash passive) instead of a hireling is outdated, the devs really should sweep back over this.

I agree, and have made this very suggestion myself several times.

Well said.

STEVIL

Nerouyn wrote: »

Not that I'm against the idea. 9 out of 10 times I pick up an alchemy writ it wants 3 nirnroot and I just can't keep up with demand when I'm doing that on multiple characters.

i think the usual ratio is three out of four on the highest tier writs..

i run 12 characters.

they all do writs..
none of them farm nirnroot anymore and dont need to buy it.

Eight do tier-10 alchemy writs each day. Nirnroot is consumed in trips in on average 5-6 of them each day. But they also get nirnroot trip drops in the packs though at less frequency.
Four do tier-1 alchemy writs each day which dont normall require trip-nirnroot and can drop nirnroot in the packs.
The eight also go by to visit Remains Silent each day while running writs and collect most days alchemy reagents with a slightly better turnout of nirnroot.
That ratio, along with just crossing overland on my way to daily delves or pub runs or whatever (when water is convenient) and picking up any i find, and no dedicated farming or purchases has maintained a stable nirnroot balance for me for over a week.

the key is figuring out the balance you can sustain with your playstyle and preferences and settling into that. You cant run multiple chars each day on tier-10 blacksmithing without taking into account the demands for rubedite either.

Alchemy writs remain some of the most profitable overall time investments for rewards of the writs as well as much needed end-game gear producing that you cannot get except by crafting or purchasing crafteds. (Though the crown ones come close.)

Danksta

You can get boatloads of reagents for cheap from the telvar merchants.

Uriel_Nocturne

Danksta wrote: »

You can get boatloads of reagents for cheap from the telvar merchants.

Is that in Imperial City? Or Cyrodiil proper?

I ask, because I never PvP, so i don't know where the various things/merchants are in either Zone.

Danksta

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

You can get boatloads of reagents for cheap from the telvar merchants.

Is that in Imperial City? Or Cyrodiil proper?

I ask, because I never PvP, so i don't know where the various things/merchants are in either Zone.

IC

RavenRoxie

Danksta wrote: »

You can get boatloads of reagents for cheap from the telvar merchants.

oooo I actually didnt know this, thank you, never use my telvars for anything anyway ha