Flurry morph

Dark_Claw

I understand that this is a subject that's been done to death and I apologise for that, but considering recent updates and whatnot I was hoping for a more contemporary idea of which morph is more useful for PVE.

Now the only heals I currently have are potions, Swallow Soul, Killer's Blade and Rend. They get me by but I often find myself desiring something a little more immediate due to how squishy my character can be without a healer. However I don't know whether Bloodthirst is effective enough to choose over Rapid Strikes, which from what I understand is considered to be one of the hardest hitting DPS abilities in the game and I don't fancy trading that for a potentially substandard heal.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Voxicity

From what I read and the fact you're using magicka skills on a stamina character I assume you're not talking about end game pve... so using the heal morph of flurry should be fine for you

hmsdragonfly

Get Vigor.

ookami007

Use Bloodthirst until you level up your Assault Line and get Vigor. Then you have an insta-heal, then reset your morphs and go DPS with your morphs.

I do that when leveling, as it keeps my toon grinding.

Robo_Hobo

It sounds like you're a stamina nightblade? I haven't heard of using swallow soul as one for my stamblade, but it is a different style heal than one that scales off of magicka, so if it works for you then that's great.

Like others said I would suggest getting Vigor from the assault skill like, it's the main heal for most stamina classes. Even if you don't like PvP, it's worth it to grind it out for a little bit just for Vigor, trust me. You can do some things there to avoid most PvP and still get the AP for it pretty quickly, but of course jumping into the PvP aapects would unlock it quicker.

I have another suggestion though. Rapid strikes (the dps morph) I've heard isn't the best option for a stamina nightblade unless you have maelstrom weapons for it. Until then, using Surprise attack (the stamina morph of Veiled Strike) is a significantly better spammable attack from what I've seen. When I tried it out on the dps dummy, switching the two skills, my dps jumped from 12k average to 17k immediately (and has since settled at about 20-22k from other changes and practice. Although, I was using the healing version of flurry when I compared them, and Surprise Attack gives the Major Fracture debuff, whereas with flurry it didn't have the debuff active as I had no other source of it, so I'm sure the difference wouldn't be so significant if it weren't't for that.

Surprise attack has some nice utility with it too. Major Fracture debuff on enemies, Major Ward and Resolve for you on attack for 4 seconds (almost always up since its your spammable attack in between DoT's), and 3% more hp or so on slot due to shadow skill passives. It also seems easier to weave light attacks inbetween too than flurry but that's just for me. I'd consider trying that skill out over Flurry unless you have or get Maelstrom dw weapons.

Dark_Claw

I must say I love Surprise Attack. I think I'll go with Bloodthirst then as I have no intention of ever grinding for Maelstrom weapons.

Koensol

The heal from bloodthirst is awsome. The more dps you do, the more it heals. Its usefulness far outweighs the tiny bit more dps from rapid strikes. The good part is you can keep dpsing and don't need to swapbars and waste time casting a heal.

Dark_Claw

Would Reaper's Mark be a better replacement for Swallow Soul?

Danksta

Dark_Claw wrote: »

Would Reaper's Mark be a better replacement for Swallow Soul?

For a stamina NB, yes.

cpuScientist

Koensol wrote: »

The heal from bloodthirst is awsome. The more dps you do, the more it heals. Its usefulness far outweighs the tiny bit more dps from rapid strikes. The good part is you can keep dpsing and don't need to swapbars and waste time casting a heal.

This right here. People complain that stamina is so hard to survive on. Use bloodthirst. It's a significant heal. And the damage is nearly the same. And your DPS on stam comes from dots not from flurry spamming. But to each their own. Lie on the ground dead and complain about stam and about your healer....

kylewwefan

Koensol wrote: »

The heal from bloodthirst is awsome. The more dps you do, the more it heals. Its usefulness far outweighs the tiny bit more dps from rapid strikes. The good part is you can keep dpsing and don't need to swapbars and waste time casting a heal.

I'm not any kind of pro or all that, but I fully agree the heals are worth far more than a little extra damage. In dungeons and trials where you have a healer....it's still useful to be more self sufficient.

Ep1kMalware

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

Get Vigor.

This. Stop being lazy, get off forums, enjoy a couple hours of double ap. Your life will never be the same. I prefer the extra dps but for many players bloodthirst provides the sustainability they need.

ArchMikem

Koensol wrote: »

The heal from bloodthirst is awsome. The more dps you do, the more it heals. Its usefulness far outweighs the tiny bit more dps from rapid strikes. The good part is you can keep dpsing and don't need to swapbars and waste time casting a heal.

This is why Bloodthirst is always on my StamBlade's bar, I don't see how that tiny extra damage from Rapids is so desirable over getting a heal every time you spam your spammable. Especially since my StamBlade is so squishy.

Bloodthirst for constant health maintenance.

Vigor for those dicey moments.

And then I learned to use the Ultimate Rend for those "Oh my gawd I'm gonna die!" moments.

SirAndy

kylewwefan wrote: »

Koensol wrote: »

The heal from bloodthirst is awsome. The more dps you do, the more it heals. Its usefulness far outweighs the tiny bit more dps from rapid strikes. The good part is you can keep dpsing and don't need to swapbars and waste time casting a heal.

I'm not any kind of pro or all that, but I fully agree the heals are worth far more than a little extra damage. In dungeons and trials where you have a healer....it's still useful to be more self sufficient.

My Stamblade uses bloodthirst and i can run any dungeon and trial with it just fine, doing plenty of damage.

I use it as my main heal. I do have vigor on my back bar for those special moments but i rarely ever need it.