It just doesn't feel right........

Jitterbug · February 2017

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

You do realize that you can dps/tank/heal with your sorc, right? You only need to respec your abilities and your CPs. So, you can "switch jobs" at will. I don't get it, what do you want here? xD

I want to be able to "switch jobs" as a temp, dragon knight, nightblade or sorc. I don't want to have to create 4 characters. I feel like they did it this way to force you to buy convenience items.

I DO NOT want to mix skills between the classes.......just switch classes.......

You say you want to be able to "switch jobs" - well, good news, you can, and it doesn't require a class change. Templars aren't the only healers, Sorcs aren't the only spellcasters, dragonknights aren't the only tanks, and nightblades aren't the only assassins. Every class can fill every role. At most, all you need to do is visit the respec shrine.

There is absolutely no need for either a class change option or for you to have one of every class in order to play any role you want. It all comes down to build and gear.

I know but I want to be able to summon pets......and be a templar..........all in one character. I don't want to make 2 different characters to do that. we don't make 2 different characters in other Elder Scrolls games.

.....well wait I don't, others might.

I do. I make a bow expert and anot illusion expert etc.
Can't you summon pets and equip a resto staff. What exactly are you looking for?

Thealteregoroman · February 2017

Jitterbug wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

You do realize that you can dps/tank/heal with your sorc, right? You only need to respec your abilities and your CPs. So, you can "switch jobs" at will. I don't get it, what do you want here? xD

I want to be able to "switch jobs" as a temp, dragon knight, nightblade or sorc. I don't want to have to create 4 characters. I feel like they did it this way to force you to buy convenience items.

I DO NOT want to mix skills between the classes.......just switch classes.......

You say you want to be able to "switch jobs" - well, good news, you can, and it doesn't require a class change. Templars aren't the only healers, Sorcs aren't the only spellcasters, dragonknights aren't the only tanks, and nightblades aren't the only assassins. Every class can fill every role. At most, all you need to do is visit the respec shrine.

There is absolutely no need for either a class change option or for you to have one of every class in order to play any role you want. It all comes down to build and gear.

I know but I want to be able to summon pets......and be a templar..........all in one character. I don't want to make 2 different characters to do that. we don't make 2 different characters in other Elder Scrolls games.

.....well wait I don't, others might.

I do. I make a bow expert and anot illusion expert etc.
Can't you summon pets and equip a resto staff. What exactly are you looking for?

Nevermind.

idk · February 2017

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

That other MMO is FFXIV. It is also doing extremely well.

I want 1 character and be able to switch classes. I DO NOT want to mix the classes together. You can't do that in FFXIV and that is NOT what I am suggesting. Just tired of seeing same animations I guess.

Fabulous. Now you know the game you should be playing since that games is designed as you want it.

Please Zos, do not make this game into an FF game. There is a reason most of us are playing this game vs FF or the suite of other MMOs out there. Fortunately this plea is not needed since Zos is not going to go in such a poor direction.

Thealteregoroman · February 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

That other MMO is FFXIV. It is also doing extremely well.

I want 1 character and be able to switch classes. I DO NOT want to mix the classes together. You can't do that in FFXIV and that is NOT what I am suggesting. Just tired of seeing same animations I guess.

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

That other MMO is FFXIV. It is also doing extremely well.

I want 1 character and be able to switch classes. I DO NOT want to mix the classes together. You can't do that in FFXIV and that is NOT what I am suggesting. Just tired of seeing same animations I guess.

Fabulous. Now you know the game you should be playing since that games is designed as you want it.

Please Zos, do not make this game into an FF game. There is a reason most of us are playing this game vs FF or the suite of other MMOs out there. Fortunately this plea is not needed since Zos is not going to go in such a poor direction.

I can care less about your snarky response. After you read this I would have already blocked you. This isn't the first time you have gotten on my nerves, it will be the last.

You asked me if there is any other mmo that does what I am asking, there is. When I told you, you responded in a juvenile matter. You arent better than me OR anyone else on these forums.

chill out. Stop responding on my posts.....I certainly stay clear of any of your.

Thanks.

Tandor · February 2017

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

mesmerizedish wrote: »

Yeah, any class can competently perform any role. A sorcerer tank is probably not gonna be invited to veteran trial runs, but uh... neither am I, and I main a dragon knight tank. The game is already far more flexible than any MMO I've ever played. That's a good thing, but letting characters change classes defeats the whole purpose of having classes to begin with. I'd sooner see them get rid of classes entirely.

Same.....I just think its kinda odd when people have 12 toons.............I mean its your time do as you will but you can effectively have 1 character to do it all. Like in previous Elder Scrolls titles.

Just because one character can do it all doesn't mean that everyone wants to do it that way. I have 19 characters across two accounts and am looking forward to running three wardens (one per alliance) too. I much prefer running multiple single class characters to running one multiple class character, it gives a game so much more variety.

Thealteregoroman · February 2017

Tandor wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

mesmerizedish wrote: »

Yeah, any class can competently perform any role. A sorcerer tank is probably not gonna be invited to veteran trial runs, but uh... neither am I, and I main a dragon knight tank. The game is already far more flexible than any MMO I've ever played. That's a good thing, but letting characters change classes defeats the whole purpose of having classes to begin with. I'd sooner see them get rid of classes entirely.

Same.....I just think its kinda odd when people have 12 toons.............I mean its your time do as you will but you can effectively have 1 character to do it all. Like in previous Elder Scrolls titles.

Just because one character can do it all doesn't mean that everyone wants to do it that way. I have 19 characters across two accounts and am looking forward to running three wardens (one per alliance) too. I much prefer running multiple single class characters to running one multiple class character, it gives a game so much more variety.

Right! I respect that but for people in my situation, running THAT many toons and doing the story and quests 19 times gets old. FAST.

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2017

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Not being able to be any class you want..........

I primarily like to play a healer in an MMO.......I like the Elder Scrolls series and the freedom it allows you........

I think having like 12 or 8 toons in my opinion to do the other class stuff abilities is what's really killing me here. I want to be a healer and if I want to damage deal why can't I have sorc abilities too or summon pets to fight? There are MMO's out there that allows you to create a character and "switch jobs" at will......I think that would have felt closer to an Elder Scrolls experience than what we have now.......

If they gave us world skill lines that expanded the 5 classes we had now I think that would help tremendously......

I tried to play my sorc character and all I could think about while playing is ALL THAT achievements and thieves guild and dark brotherhood skill lines I maxed out AND all the bag storage and horse training I bought and time I put into my healer character, skyshards and all. I was put off by it and went back from changing the healer class to A "master crafter."

The warden sounds like something I would have picked the first time before picking a templar.

It would have been nice to have the 3 Warden classes as a World skill line instead of making a new character..........

I am not on it alot and I know most people will say it doesn't take that long to level up a character.......I am not talking about leveling up.....I am talking about it not feeling like elderscrolls.

Anyways what do you guys think? Would you have wanted the WARDEN CLASS to be a World skill line?

So.. the problem is lack of time/amount of time it takes to grind again those skill points and achievements on other character.
Account wide skill points and achievements could really help...

Thealteregoroman · February 2017

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Not being able to be any class you want..........

I primarily like to play a healer in an MMO.......I like the Elder Scrolls series and the freedom it allows you........

I think having like 12 or 8 toons in my opinion to do the other class stuff abilities is what's really killing me here. I want to be a healer and if I want to damage deal why can't I have sorc abilities too or summon pets to fight? There are MMO's out there that allows you to create a character and "switch jobs" at will......I think that would have felt closer to an Elder Scrolls experience than what we have now.......

If they gave us world skill lines that expanded the 5 classes we had now I think that would help tremendously......

I tried to play my sorc character and all I could think about while playing is ALL THAT achievements and thieves guild and dark brotherhood skill lines I maxed out AND all the bag storage and horse training I bought and time I put into my healer character, skyshards and all. I was put off by it and went back from changing the healer class to A "master crafter."

The warden sounds like something I would have picked the first time before picking a templar.

It would have been nice to have the 3 Warden classes as a World skill line instead of making a new character..........

I am not on it alot and I know most people will say it doesn't take that long to level up a character.......I am not talking about leveling up.....I am talking about it not feeling like elderscrolls.

Anyways what do you guys think? Would you have wanted the WARDEN CLASS to be a World skill line?

So.. the problem is lack of time/amount of time it takes to grind again those skill points and achievements on other character.
Account wide skill points and achievements could really help...

That too! LOL.

idk · February 2017

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

That other MMO is FFXIV. It is also doing extremely well.

I want 1 character and be able to switch classes. I DO NOT want to mix the classes together. You can't do that in FFXIV and that is NOT what I am suggesting. Just tired of seeing same animations I guess.

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

That other MMO is FFXIV. It is also doing extremely well.

I want 1 character and be able to switch classes. I DO NOT want to mix the classes together. You can't do that in FFXIV and that is NOT what I am suggesting. Just tired of seeing same animations I guess.

Fabulous. Now you know the game you should be playing since that games is designed as you want it.

Please Zos, do not make this game into an FF game. There is a reason most of us are playing this game vs FF or the suite of other MMOs out there. Fortunately this plea is not needed since Zos is not going to go in such a poor direction.

I can care less about your snarky response. After you read this I would have already blocked you. This isn't the first time you have gotten on my nerves, it will be the last.

You asked me if there is any other mmo that does what I am asking, there is. When I told you, you responded in a juvenile matter. You arent better than me OR anyone else on these forums.

chill out. Stop responding on my posts.....I certainly stay clear of any of your.

Thanks.

I think it is fabulous you blocked me. LMAO

You chose to play a game with a class based character system. It was your choice. I find it anoying when people want this game to play like games they are not playing. Just seems if the other game has what they want they should be there. Do not expect Zos to change from a class system to a non class system because it does not feel right to you.

Your thread here, like the others on the same subject that have received extremely limited support, do not take into account the very limited builds that are viable that come with not having a class. Just makes a game boring vanilla. Understanding some people want that kind of thing which is probably why FF does so well.

So in the end if you want to play a game that does not have classes, go at it, outside of ESO.

Sinthrax · February 2017

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Sorry but I think it adds some much needed diversity to the game by having classes with unique themes and playstyles.

You can dps, tank, or heal on any class and can easily swap roles with gear and enough skill points.

yea you are right.......still think we would have diversity if they were world skills instead.

I have to disagree. Inevitably, when everyone has access to all the same abilities and skills, a very small selection are actually used. Everyone ends up running with the same exact setup at endgame because of the prevalence of minmax builds.

This..your diversity actually turns into less. People will min/max and use the same setup. Everyone..... I am not sure why people think if you had access to all skills but could only use 10 that it would be more diverse. It wouldn't be. We would use the 10 best skills and the rest would rot.

Thealteregoroman · February 2017

My posts don't get support?!?!?!

Never forget......

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/308618/2016-eso-gift-exchange#latest

BLOCKED!

Thealteregoroman · February 2017

Sinthrax wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Sorry but I think it adds some much needed diversity to the game by having classes with unique themes and playstyles.

You can dps, tank, or heal on any class and can easily swap roles with gear and enough skill points.

yea you are right.......still think we would have diversity if they were world skills instead.

I have to disagree. Inevitably, when everyone has access to all the same abilities and skills, a very small selection are actually used. Everyone ends up running with the same exact setup at endgame because of the prevalence of minmax builds.

This..your diversity actually turns into less. People will min/max and use the same setup. Everyone..... I am not sure why people think if you had access to all skills but could only use 10 that it would be more diverse. It wouldn't be. We would use the 10 best skills and the rest would rot.

right like it is now. LOL......I ain't getting mad how people play.....I am just saying like..........ONE tamriel came and everyone was saying they would never open the other alliances.

idk · February 2017

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

My posts don't get support?!?!?!

Never forget......

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/308618/2016-eso-gift-exchange#latest

BLOCKED!

?????

Never mind. She may have actually ignored me by now.