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Pull timer/countdown add on?

Syrani
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I am looking for an add on that has a similar pull timer/countdown like DBM does in WoW. Does one exist?

Thanks :)
  • calia1120
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  • Syrani
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    Thanks for the response. :)

    I don't need anything to track taunts, as I am not a tank. I am just looking for a pull timer for starting boss fights. Here is an example of what I am looking for, although this particular example has been modified to add a (rather annoying) voice countdown.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOd50Q6C_Lw
  • Syrani
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    Here is another example using the base DBM functionality:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQs_-drb6z0

    I am wondering if there is something similar for ESO.

    Edited to add that it would have to be something everyone in group would see. Not sure if that's possible in ESO.
    Edited by Syrani on February 26, 2017 9:52PM
  • calia1120
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    Check out Raid Notifier as well
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  • Khurune
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    Problem with addons on ESO compared to wow is the API on wow is pretty much wide open, where as Zenimax like to keep theirs very closed off, understandable why they do this. But just means a lot of addons we're used to from wow we'll not see for a long time unless Zenimax opens up more of the API, which to be fair, they've slowly been doing.
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  • Syrani
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    Khurune wrote: »
    Problem with addons on ESO compared to wow is the API on wow is pretty much wide open, where as Zenimax like to keep theirs very closed off, understandable why they do this. But just means a lot of addons we're used to from wow we'll not see for a long time unless Zenimax opens up more of the API, which to be fair, they've slowly been doing.

    Yeah, I figured a pull timer might not be doable, but then again, if a ready check (that everyone can see) can be implemented, you would think that a pull timer may be able to be implemented too. If it can't be done now, hopefully it will be doable in the future.
  • Kessra
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    Well, actually a pull timer is not that hard to pull off, even with the current API. Though you have to misuse a certain API feature - the famous map ping. This way you can share plenty of data, depending on your needs. This data can range from predefined states like LibGroupSocket provides or share dps, ultimate points and what not. The challenge lies in the way to distinguish between a user's ping and a trigger for the counter that is being executed at each client understanding the special ping.

    FTC is still using this feature to broadcast the dps to other players, even if the window is not visible due to the alpha settings of the widget. Further addons such as http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1337-LibGroupSocket.html and http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1338-GroupResources.html also use the ping to share data, though also mention that this technique interfers with FTC and similar addons. To my knowledge sharing dps with group members is forbidden though, not sure what's ZOS policy on other data such as ultimate points or a pull timer, as per your request, is.

    ZOS already has constants for user defined channels such as http://wiki.esoui.com/Constant_Values#CHAT_CHANNEL_USER_CHANNEL_1 available in the game, though the only method that allows to send data is a private one and therefore may not be used by addons directly.

    While I understand the limitations on the SendChatMessage function (due to addons being able to share sensitive data automatically or allow the misuse of spam-enabling stuff such as the advertisment of gold-selles), I also see a need for private channels addons can send data to and read data from. ZOS could limit what data are allowed to get shared by simply setting up a policy that regulates what users are allowed to share via this channel.
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