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losing tel var stones

Lynx7386
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I haven't really gotten into the imperial city stuff until recently, but I seem to recall the initial patch notes claiming that getting killed by an enemy npc would only cause you to lose 10% of your stones. I'm losing 50% on deaths, however, which I feel is entirely unacceptable considering the number of patrolling bosses you end up having to avoid.

I've spent two nights in the sewers now and only been able to get around 4k stones due to unavoidable deaths. Haven't even been able to get to the 4x modifier. I honestly don't know if I have the patience to grind out the 25k stones I need for the black rose set at this rate.
PS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • Lynx7386
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    And again, stupid frakking tight corner caused me to inadvertently aggro a boss in the sewers, there no God damn way to get away from them, and they're impossible to survive solo. Lost another 2k stones.

    Frak zos and this stupid, piece of *** system.
    PS4 / NA
    M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • bubbygink
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    You used to only lose 10% to mobs but would lose 80% (I think) to players. They changed it to losing 50% of stones regardless of how you die.
  • aLi3nZ
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    Imperial city is pretty much a raid group zone unless you a very experienced and high cp or a ganker. I like to run with at least 2 or 3. I actually made 150,000 telvar last night farming bosses. I think I died to boss once and got ganked once when stuck on loot menu looting a boss. Farming bosses solo with 4x multiplier will give you 14.4k per boss kill if you have all the ic city flags. That is pretty damn good. I did that a couple times but I can't solo a couple of the bosses.
  • Kneighbors
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    You are right. I don't find Tel Var farming rewarding enough. There are many dangers like gankers, bosses, guild raids etc... It's cheaper to buy Black Rose. Wan't to farm Tel Var well? Make a team 6-8 persons cp600, 4 DK'S, one templar and one sorc to cast negate, and you are going to be kings of IC.
  • Lynx7386
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    They need to remove the roaming bosses then, at least from the tunnels. There's no way to avoid them and I really frakking hate losing 50% of my progress to that crap
    PS4 / NA
    M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • thankyourat
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    Players use to run away a suicide themselves to npcs to keep players from stealing their stones. It was so annoying. That's why it was changed. I would say if you are having trouble with the world bosses then bring a friend to help you farm
  • Majic
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    I think the general idea is to stay the hell out of the Imperial City.
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  • AlnilamE
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    They need to remove the roaming bosses then, at least from the tunnels. There's no way to avoid them and I really frakking hate losing 50% of my progress to that crap

    If you keep your ears open for the heartbeat, you can avoid them fairly easily. But if they surprise you it will usually be a quick death.
    The Moot Councillor
  • Lynx7386
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    Majic wrote: »
    I think the general idea is to stay the hell out of the Imperial City.

    Not an option when it's the only way to get black rose
    PS4 / NA
    M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • DannyLV702
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Majic wrote: »
    I think the general idea is to stay the hell out of the Imperial City.

    Not an option when it's the only way to get black rose

    You can farm gold and buy it off someone
  • O_LYKOS
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    It really is insane how easy it is to lose stones compared to how much work you potentially have to do to earn them.

    I love IC but only go if I'm with a decent size group.
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  • kyle.wilson
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    From PC Patch Notes 2.4.5 May 2016
    You will now lose 50% of your Tel Var Stones for both a PvE or PvP death. Previously, you would lose 10% of your Stones for a PvE death, and 80% for a PvP death.
  • Beardimus
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    @Lynx7386 are you Xbox EU?
    Xbox One | EU | EP
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  • t3hdubzy
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    I frequently go to imperial city solo and rake in tons of stones when im there for stones. My best advice for u starting out is to bank every time you hit 1000, and always keep 100 on you to start. The districts are higher risk but higher reward. Running in a strong group will help, but honestly people like myself pray on those groups. We wait for you to make one mistake, take u down, and then jet before your group realizes you are dead.

    If you wanna save your stones, bank frequently and use the sewers, use a lot of stealth, kill with heavy attacks, and go right back to stealth.

    Invis pots would be great for you as well for escaping.
  • Unsent.Soul
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    They need to remove the roaming bosses then, at least from the tunnels. There's no way to avoid them and I really frakking hate losing 50% of my progress to that crap

    Situational awareness helps. Don't be clueless, you know hey are there, keep a look out.

    Never engage and if you're stealth they will have a ring on ground around them as they move. They are there for the sole reason of being a PITA. They don't drop near as many tel var and few have certain mechanics that if not known will cause you to die over and over.
  • XpoZeD_GoD
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    If you turn your volume up then you can hear a heartbeat when one of those roaming bosses are nearby. Also, when going around every corner or blindspot I'd recommend tilting your camera angle so that you can see it before you walk straight into the boss. Another tip is to find the nearest door and get to it quickly, you cannot travel through the door if you have taken damage or dealt damage recently (within 10 seconds or so) but you can still get through ut when you are being chased. No one will blame you for running away from one of them if you are solo.
    Xbox EU
    ~650 CP
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