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why there's so many bots now?

NeKryXe
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why there's so many bots now doing anchors? what's the point anyway?
is there anything new dropping in the anchors?
i've been trying to report, but there are too many and the move fast.
  • Dragonnord
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    They get XP (and so increase their CP) by constantly killing mobs and bosses at anchors.
  • alanmatillab16_ESO
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    NeKryXe wrote: »
    why there's so many bots now doing anchors? what's the point anyway?
    is there anything new dropping in the anchors?
    i've been trying to report, but there are too many and the move fast.

    There isn't anything new but they can level AFK by shooting at the location where the boss spawns. It is not efficient compared to actually taking part but the big difference is that it can be done while at school, sleep or work so the xp gain builds up.

    I report as many as I can or for entertainment try and get them killed during the fight :)
  • SirAndy
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    They have always been there but are now much more in the open since ZOS hasn't done anything to stop them.

    The last time i saw a GM in-game was almost 3 years ago ...
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    Edited by SirAndy on February 25, 2017 3:18AM
  • Lake
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    I heard their typical "punishment" for those AFKers is a 3-day temporary suspension. I'm assuming that the pros outweigh the punishment.
  • NeKryXe
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    it's too many now. yesterday i saw one group with more than 20 bots and a few hours ago more than 10. usually at Alik'r Desert.

    i know that there are always cheaters in all games, and usually i don't care much as long as they don't ruin my game. but since homested this went to a level that it is in fact annoying me. it's too stupid and too noisy.

    the cheating is so obvious and so intrusive that it's hard to understand why they are not all banned yet.

    i've been playing this game since beta and i love the game, but i know that when i start to get annoyed with cheaters usually i start to lose interest in the game too.

    i think that it is normal for honest players to leave when the cheaters start to rule one game.

    maybe, just maybe, it would be a good idea for ZOS to ban all those cheaters before they grow way out of control as it is start to look like.
    Edited by NeKryXe on February 26, 2017 9:35AM
  • NeKryXe
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    Lake wrote: »
    I heard their typical "punishment" for those AFKers is a 3-day temporary suspension. I'm assuming that the pros outweigh the punishment.

    that's ridiculous. so... they left the bots farming for more than 3 weeks and get "3-day temporary suspension"?

    that sounds like an incentive for cheating. banning those accounts or resting the accounts would be much fairer.
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    Move to fast? The botters are pretty stationary
  • NeKryXe
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    technohic wrote: »
    Move to fast? The botters are pretty stationary

    maybe i got confused. but the group i saw was attacking fast and returning to the same point together making them also hard to identify all. i saw it a few times this week, always the same behavior: fast attack and returning to the same point together . it didn't look natural.
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    technohic wrote: »
    Move to fast? The botters are pretty stationary
    Some move in a bot train, some are stationary ...


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    The game has become pretty popular so it has attracted the "quick buck" types that aren't interested in the game, they just want to gold farm and sell Zenimax's intellectual property.

    Happily, they're pretty stationary, sticking to small areas and they don't tend to invade the more difficult content.
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    Game is 3 year old and the bot trains arrives, its a sign that ESO is doing good. As we speak, ESO Gold Edition is on top seller Steam list.
    Edited by Sausage on February 25, 2017 5:55AM
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    NeKryXe wrote: »
    that's ridiculous. so... they left the bots farming for more than 3 weeks and get "3-day temporary suspension"?
    A 3-MONTH suspension would be more fitting, if they won't ban the players completely. Three months would keep them from botting. Three days is a joke. :/



    Edited by SydneyGrey on February 25, 2017 6:03AM
  • NeKryXe
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    NeKryXe wrote: »
    that's ridiculous. so... they left the bots farming for more than 3 weeks and get "3-day temporary suspension"?
    A 3-MONTH suspension would be more fitting, if they won't ban the players completely. Three months would keep them from botting. Three days is a joke. :/

    yep... that would sound more like a punishment. but the items from the bot sessions should be removed anyway.
  • Unsent.Soul
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    NeKryXe wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    Move to fast? The botters are pretty stationary

    maybe i got confused. it didn't look natural.

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  • JWKe
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    Its comical hahaha
  • Majic
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    Majic wrote: »
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  • NeKryXe
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    technohic wrote: »
    Move to fast? The botters are pretty stationary

    i can confirm now that they are not all stationary as you think. right now, at Myrkwasa Dolmen there's a lot o stationary bots permanently shooting with the staves to the anchor, they never stop shooting and they are standing without ever moving. i report them all. but... there are another group moving, always doing the same actions and returning to the same point in loop.

    if you are online, just go there and check it. i'm trying to report all i can for a while and then i'll resume my game.
  • technohic
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    I go there all the time to grind. Never have botted. It is kind of the same routine though. Run from the way shrine to dolmen, hit as many ads as possible, hit boss that spawns in the same spot every time save for 1 rare, move to chest spawn in same spot every time, back to wayshrine on to next dolmen, repeat.

    There are so many people doing that, I have a hard time believing I could tell for sure someone automated it. I don't know how they could. Random NPCs can get in your path and that would throw off your entire sequence
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    NeKryXe wrote: »
    that's ridiculous. so... they left the bots farming for more than 3 weeks and get "3-day temporary suspension"?
    A 3-MONTH suspension would be more fitting, if they won't ban the players completely. Three months would keep them from botting. Three days is a joke. :/



    3 days is fine, but what they need to do is store a snapshot of the account when it is reported, and do a rollback to the exact XP, skill points, CP etc. For all characters.
    Edited by Elsonso on February 26, 2017 1:51PM
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  • Tabbycat
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    I would imagine ZOS is trying to figure out a way to ban them all at once and prevent the behavior from occurring again.

    I guess we will find out if they are ever successful.
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    Tabbycat wrote: »
    I would imagine ZOS is trying to figure out a way to ban them all at once and prevent the behavior from occurring again.

    I guess we will find out if they are ever successful.

    No, ZOS does not want to ban anyone, unless they can't be rehabilitated. That is why they have a 3 strikes policy. What ZOS is probably thinking about are ways to prevent it in the first place. I think they want to do that instead of punishments. It takes them forever, though. That is why they need punatice measures against the account, and it needs to get out that they do this. If all your characters are rolled back after the first warning, the ones who can be rehabilitated will have a harsh lesson, but be able to recover. The ones who can't will eventually rage quit, but can come back if they decide to play nice.

    Did we ever hear what happened to the AP exploiters for punishment, not that I want to talk specifics. My impression is that they took names, but didn't do anything more than just fix it.
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  • mikeabboudb14_ESO
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    They should just nerf the drops and exp and time it out so player cant simply move from dolmon to dolmon.ZOS shouldn't announce it either let them find out after hours of wasted time. It would be funny.
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    They should just nerf the drops and exp and time it out so player cant simply move from dolmon to dolmon.ZOS shouldn't announce it either let them find out after hours of wasted time. It would be funny.
    Not much need, unless you are an 3-6 man group diving into an public dungeon give far more xp.
    With 3 players you level up a lot.

    One benefit of populated dolmen is to level up skills fast who is nice for tanking or healing skills who you can not train well grinding. Other option here is to switch setup then delivering quests.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • NeKryXe
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    there are still dozens of cheaters playing with bots on Myrkwasa Dolmen. again, i reported all i was able to, and i noticed some names that i already reported a few days ago, which means that the reports are not working or cheating is now allowed at ESO.
  • Argruna
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    Bot programs take a while to kill. They have to first identify who is doing it, make sure they are a legit player and not botting.(Don't know how many times I got whispered 'reported' when bots were bad the last time because I was 'le gasp' standing waiting for a dolmen to pop and just repeat grinding that dolmen because I wanted to get some projects done while playing.)
    Then it's getting the botting program, seeing how it circumvented the system, doing tweaks on the system to stop the program, double checking that they didn't kill something else in the stop that is allowed or part of gameplay, checking again that the bot programmers did not get ahead of them on the fix and just full rinse and repeat.
    If they banned each person as they found the program, it just gives the bot programmers that much more of a heads up that the program is being detected. Banning in groups makes the botters go well it got detected but how.
    A great comparison would be shoplifters. Only the sloppy ones were caught on the first time. The others? Poor loss prevention had to sit there and wait and catalog and watch through cameras and on the floor to catch the person. They had to make sure that when they got the person, there was definitive proof because if not? Lost job and possible lawsuit.
    So all in all, I'd much rather have them do waves and ban so that those botting can't wiggle out instead of them banning and us fighting to try and get our accounts back causing the game to die quicker than a skeever find a wedge of cheese.
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    i think that the case on Myrkwasa Dolmen might be special. at least it's the place where it looks easier to identify the cheaters. they are usually all together above the rocks permanently shooting in huge groups for hours and hours. i'm away from that point now, but i'm sure that they are all still there. by the time ZOS see the reports they are probably still there cheating on the anchor. that group is really easy to identify and easy to ban without much trouble. i also believe that they might have received already many reports from those same players.

    i think that a few justified account resets would be nice for the games. and if the cheaters get annoyed and leave, nobody who likes the game will miss them :)

    i really hope that they find a way to stop the cheaters. they need to do something, and the actual 3-day temporary suspension is the same of nothing.
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    Some of them probably real. Some people can have mechanical beahvoir.
    Also watching Netflix and waiting for dolmen to spawn is nice.
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Some of them probably real. Some people can have mechanical beahvoir.
    Also watching Netflix and waiting for dolmen to spawn is nice.

    just go there and watch. take some time and watch carefully. you'll change your mind for sure :)

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  • KerinKor
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Also watching Netflix and waiting for dolmen to spawn is nice.
    Isn't the same thing as keeping something heavy on the 'attack' key and going to school/sleep/whatever which is what the stationary 'bots' spamming heavy attacks are doing .. they're not 'bots' of course as there's no software needed to keep a key pressed on a keyboard.

    Edited by KerinKor on March 3, 2017 10:39PM
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