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Purchased & used a Race Change Token but Attributes did not change

Kalcipher1
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I quit playing shortly after launch and returned recently so I missed a lot of the collective game play/learning experience. My main is a magicka templar as a Bosmer. Research about the best races for the 'Magplar', I decided to buy a Race change token to make my Magplar a Dunmer, specifically for the attributes & passives. [I've been a premium/plus subscriber since day 1, even during the 2 1/2yrs that I didn't play]. While the passives did change from Bosmer to Dunmer, my attributes did not change. [Magicka, Health, Stamina] I thought that perhaps it was gear or skill related so I also did a Skill reset, Attribute reset & CP reset. I removed all my gear & reloaded the game. Attributes did not change. I cross referenced this with creating [multiple] new characters as Bosmer templar & Dunmer templar and confirmed that the Race change had no affect on the attributes for the character it was used on.

So my question: Is this normal? Is it a bug? This was an expensive learning experience: 3000 crowns + 12,000 gold to find out that I couldn't change my attributes.
  • Danikat
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    I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong here but as far as I know all races have the same attributes in ESO, and always have. You can increase them by spending points, but everyone has the same base Magicka, Health and Stamina and the same maximum (and the same increase per point) regardless of race.

    If that affects your decision to change your race you could try submitting a ticket to Customer Support, explain that you misunderstood what you were buying and they may be able to refund you and undo the race change, but then they might also say now you've used it there's nothing they can do.
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  • BlackSparrow
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong here but as far as I know all races have the same attributes in ESO, and always have. You can increase them by spending points, but everyone has the same base Magicka, Health and Stamina and the same maximum (and the same increase per point) regardless of race.

    If that affects your decision to change your race you could try submitting a ticket to Customer Support, explain that you misunderstood what you were buying and they may be able to refund you and undo the race change, but then they might also say now you've used it there's nothing they can do.

    Yep, that. Base attributes are the same. The only difference between the races is the passives.

    Now, if you're saying that you had certain "max stamina/magicka" racial passives in both races trained, and those didn't make a difference... then, yes, you should send in a ticket. But that's assuming you spent the skill points to train them.
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  • andreasranasen
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    Huh? How is it 12k gold to change attributes? I thought it was 3k?


    3k literally takes less than 15 minutes to get in-game.
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  • Kalcipher1
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong here but as far as I know all races have the same attributes in ESO, and always have. You can increase them by spending points, but everyone has the same base Magicka, Health and Stamina and the same maximum (and the same increase per point) regardless of race.

    If that affects your decision to change your race you could try submitting a ticket to Customer Support, explain that you misunderstood what you were buying and they may be able to refund you and undo the race change, but then they might also say now you've used it there's nothing they can do.

    Ok, thanks! I'll have to investigate further...
  • Kalcipher1
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong here but as far as I know all races have the same attributes in ESO, and always have. You can increase them by spending points, but everyone has the same base Magicka, Health and Stamina and the same maximum (and the same increase per point) regardless of race.

    If that affects your decision to change your race you could try submitting a ticket to Customer Support, explain that you misunderstood what you were buying and they may be able to refund you and undo the race change, but then they might also say now you've used it there's nothing they can do.

    Yep, that. Base attributes are the same. The only difference between the races is the passives.

    Now, if you're saying that you had certain "max stamina/magicka" racial passives in both races trained, and those didn't make a difference... then, yes, you should send in a ticket. But that's assuming you spent the skill points to train them.

    Thanks, I appreciate your feedback!
  • Kalcipher1
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    Huh? How is it 12k gold to change attributes? I thought it was 3k?


    3k literally takes less than 15 minutes to get in-game.

    Thanks, you are a great help. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that I reset everything... Attribute reset, Skill point reset, CP reset. I was rounding to the nearest thousand but I think it is somewhere around 12k. And you're absolutely right, I can also farm 3k in an hour so resetting everything is only worth about 4hrs of play time. And the 3000 Crowns is only about $30.

    I happen to think that is fairly expensive. But I am sure that you can do that every day... props to you!
  • Balibe
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    Huh? How is it 12k gold to change attributes? I thought it was 3k?


    3k literally takes less than 15 minutes to get in-game.

    Been awhile since I did a respec. If I remember correctly, it is 100 gold for each point. So the cost will depend on the points you have. If you are a low level character, it will not cost as much as max level character .....

    There are three different vendor/npc's, one for each. So you can respec attributes points, skill points or just the skill points used to morph skills separately .....
  • TheShadowScout
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    Race only affects the passives.

    Attributes are dependent on where you spend your attribute points.

    Racechange changes your race.

    Attribute respec allows you to distribute your attribute points anew.

    One has nothing to do with the other.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    I had to get a refund. It seems it's visual mostly but I've lost 9 skill points and they would fix that bug either

    It doesn't reset your skills and stats however your stats aren't race based
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on February 27, 2017 11:46AM
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