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Weapon firing on dismount now?

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Was this change intended? On PS4 console after Homestead, you can't dismount without simultaneously firing a light-attack, often with unintended/disastrous results. If this was an intended change, I would dearly love to know the thinking behind it. When you're on a farming run, it's a royal pain.
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  • ArchMikem
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    Well the "proper" way to dismount is using the same button you use to mount, but everyone has always been used to using the attack trigger to do it. I think though this may be a bug cause using the block trigger used to just instantly dismount, but now the blocking animation is now displaying whether youre holding the trigger or not.
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  • dotme
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Well the "proper" way to dismount is using the same button you use to mount, but everyone has always been used to using the attack trigger to do it.
    Ah, well on PS4, the button used to mount does not allow you to dismount. It pulls up the map instead, and you remain firmly seated on your horse :smile:

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  • dotme
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    To clarify, the "mount" button on the PS4 controller is the center touchpad. You tap that button for map, or press and hold it to mount.

    Once mounted, both tapping the touchpad and pressing to hold both trigger the map.

    Unless I'm missing something, dismounting can only be accomplished via attack trigger, block trigger or a skill ability button. Animations now fire on all of those, making a dismount visually awkward and attacking an innocent likely.

    Surely this was tested? I mean, ESO is only on PC/Mac, XBox and Playstation. It would take 2 minutes to test this mechanic on each platform prior to release. It's stuff like this that makes me shake my head...
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  • sumisu1
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    Similar problem has made it difficult to rush to a door or quickly hop off to read the writ board and it has been going on for way too long, when you dismount it triggers you to get back on.
  • xari228
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    I'm so glad to find this wasn't just me.

    After the update, the first time it happened I wondered if I'd done something wrong. After 2-3 times though, nearly injuring civilians to dismount became quite annoying and, as you say, visually awkward.
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  • MilwaukeeScott
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    Same here on PS4. Quite annoying
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    All I see is hate and rage from people who don't understand how to.....
  • CoconutMonkey06X
    Happening on the Xbox as well. I thought I was messing something up
  • Moloch1514
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    Same here, using game pad UI on PC. Very annoying!
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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    I don't own a console but couldn't you just block to dismount?
  • cjthibs
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    Double-tapping stealth works pretty well too.
  • dotme
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    I'll have to try the stealth, although I would think double-tapping an analog joystick on a PS4 would be pretty clunky.

    Yes, you can block to dismount but as @ArchMikem points out above, the animation fires on block too now.

    Hmm - @ZOS_GinaBruno maybe I should have posted this in the bug forum instead?

    Can you perhaps move the thread or bring this to the attention of the dev team and see if this was intentional? Maybe ask them to test on PS4 and tell us all how to dismount cleanly while in motion after this update?
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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Missed what @ArchMikem wrote. Don't know if it's me but block to dismount feels a bit clunky now on PC too.
  • ADarklore
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    This is why I use BLOCK to dismount, not 'weapon attack'. However, this is what happens when ZOS 'fixes' something that nobody complained about, apparently they still have some people on staff with nothing to do, so they give them random things to keep them busy, usually amounting to unnecessary 'fixes'.
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  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    xari228 wrote: »
    I'm so glad to find this wasn't just me.

    After the update, the first time it happened I wondered if I'd done something wrong. After 2-3 times though, nearly injuring civilians to dismount became quite annoying and, as you say, visually awkward.
    Yep.

    I died three times last night via the local constabulary due to my weapons taking a swing at those guys who took an arrow in the knee when I dismounted...

    It's definitely an annoying change, intended or not. :/


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  • xari228
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    I've opened a Bug Report about this (and an issue with the Crown Store) on PS4.

    Please feel free to add your experiences with this over there, so that it will hopefully get fixed sooner than later.

    TIA, xari.

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  • dotme
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    xari228 wrote: »
    I've opened a Bug Report about this (and an issue with the Crown Store) on PS4.

    Please feel free to add your experiences with this over there, so that it will hopefully get fixed sooner than later.
    Awesome. Here's the link:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/324061/ps4-homestead-update-two-bugs
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    I've never used attack to dismount on Xbox one. I've always used block, so now it dismounts me and exactly one second later, it causes a delayed block animation.

    Cause I use a staff, ranged seems like a bad idea to dismount so I still block but technically, it's working as intended



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  • Stopnaggin
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    Happens on xbox as well, inadvertently hit some people and got a nice bounty. It's more than likely a bug.
  • disintegr8
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    When using your horse for the first time on a character, it always told you that you could dismount quickly by tapping L2 or R2 (PS4). I ended up with two bounties last night because I accidentally attacked two NPCs before I realized what was going on.

    The proper way to dismount is actually to hold the map pad down, exactly the same way you mounted. As someone else has said, you could use the L2 (block) button instead of the R2 (attack) button but that still goes through the blocking motion after you dismount.

    I hope this is a bug rather than an undocumented change.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Folks it says attacks now dismount......what's the issue?

    Honest question

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3823644/#Comment_3823644

    "Attempting to Light Attack while you are mounted will now dismount you."
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on February 22, 2017 10:46PM
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  • Cadbury
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    Tapping the right trigger while mounted used to dismount you with your weapon unsheathed. Now it also fires off a single light attack. Tapping the left trigger while mounted now gives you the delayed block animation. Just tested it a minute ago. Surprised I didn't notice this earlier.
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  • NovaShadow
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    Not a bug but an actual change:
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    • Attempting to Light Attack while you are mounted will now dismount you.

    Why they removed the ability to dismount via other means on controllers could be the bug.
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  • ADarklore
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    Strange how people are freaking out because using BLOCK to dismount causes an extremely brief block animation. Well, the extremely brief block animation is heck of a lot shorter than using the actual dismount command. The only thing I hate is the fact that I have to re-sheath my weapon after using the block dismount option, but you'd have to do the same thing using the light attack dismount option as well.
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  • saxgooner
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    same here xb1 eu
  • AzraelKrieg
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    I have shot a few guards and NPCs dismounting now. I get freaked out when a shot does fire and narrowly misses someone
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  • GreenhaloX
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    dotme wrote: »
    Was this change intended? On PS4 console after Homestead, you can't dismount without simultaneously firing a light-attack, often with unintended/disastrous results. If this was an intended change, I would dearly love to know the thinking behind it. When you're on a farming run, it's a royal pain.

    Yes.. I've seen turn off the option of harming innocents or NPC. Was getting too many bounties. However, from time to time, I would accidently or unexpectedly hit a poor squirrel, rabbit or mudcrab nearby my dismount. Ha ha
  • Lynx7386
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    This is a perfect example of zos making changes to things that were working perfectly fine before, and breaking the game in the process.

    Where's the quality control and why does this *** keep happening?
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  • Vash747
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    Haha, I seem to always dismount by a guard. Still getting used to using block to dismount.
  • KingKush
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    Okay im glad im not the only one this change is bothering. I literally always used RT to dismount. What exactly was the point of this change?
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  • Laertus
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    I started a new char on EU server last night when the NA server login was disabled. The tutorial tips still tell you to use RT or LT to dismount. Was there a gameplay reason for this change of which we are not aware?
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