Why do half of the small houses

Lynx7386

Lack exteriors? They don't cost any less than those that do have an exterior, but have ab lot less space. I was all ready to jump on the khenarthi's roost house until I found out its hardly any bigger than the apartments and has no exterior space.

Not worth it, imo.

Lynx7386

Is this not a valid concern?

ThePonzzz

It could be. But forty minutes might not be enough time to get people to discuss it.

JWKe

I agree. Like the hammerdeath bungalow the outside area is already Orc themed however we aren't able to customize the outside area which is just... weird considering the house is one of the more expensive of the bunch at 65k gold. Zo$ not allowing the customization of the outside I'm not sure whether it stems from a technical issue or whether Zo$ thinks that 65,000 does not deserve such a big yard space.

K-roost and HD-bungalow shares the same concern.

Tannus15

My guess is that the price takes into consideration interior space, exterior space and location.

Like Snug Pod. On it's own it's a terrible house, but when you factor in that it's literally inside eldenroot, it's actually a pretty nice little house.

Lynx7386

Tannus15 wrote: »

My guess is that the price takes into consideration interior space, exterior space and location.

Like Snug Pod. On it's own it's a terrible house, but when you factor in that it's literally inside eldenroot, it's actually a pretty nice little house.

This doesn't make sense with the khenarthi's roost house though. It's not near anything important, and it has very little space and no exterior. It's also a midrange price for the small houses, with some of the cheaper or equally priced houses having both more room and an exterior.

JWKe

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

My guess is that the price takes into consideration interior space, exterior space and location.

Like Snug Pod. On it's own it's a terrible house, but when you factor in that it's literally inside eldenroot, it's actually a pretty nice little house.

This doesn't make sense with the khenarthi's roost house though. It's not near anything important, and it has very little space and no exterior. It's also a midrange price for the small houses, with some of the cheaper or equally priced houses having both more room and an exterior.

There's definitely an inconsistency with the pricing. As for example Autumn's Gate a Nord styled house is priced at 60k but has a nice and big front yard. Humblemud is also another house in the small category priced at 40k with a yard.

Moonmirth "K-roost" and HD-Bungalow, along with Captain Margeux in daggerfall definitely got the short end of the stick in this category.

Moonscythe

Well, that's a bummer. I'm on Xbox and haven't even finished downloading but really like the architecture in Khenarthi's Roost and was thinking of that house. I think I'm going to have to re-think my options.

colig

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

My guess is that the price takes into consideration interior space, exterior space and location.

Like Snug Pod. On it's own it's a terrible house, but when you factor in that it's literally inside eldenroot, it's actually a pretty nice little house.

This doesn't make sense with the khenarthi's roost house though. It's not near anything important, and it has very little space and no exterior. It's also a midrange price for the small houses, with some of the cheaper or equally priced houses having both more room and an exterior.

I know someone who bought it for the access to the plentiful mats outside due to being a beginner area. I don't think every home necessarily needs a yard, but yeah, the prices have to reflect that.

Narvuntien

I think I have done quite well with the inside my snugpod.
but the advantages of location can't be used because the game crashes if I walk out my door. .

What is the outside area for? Do you want a garden?

max_only

Something was said somewhere about gardening and stables in the pipeline.

SydneyGrey

I think sometimes a great location in a city is taken into account, like how in real life a city home will cost a lot because it's in a city, even if it's smaller than what you can get in the country for the same price.

SydneyGrey

Narvuntien wrote: »

What is the outside area for? Do you want a garden?

I need to display a few of my mounts. I only wish we could take their saddles off.

I really, really want them to add gardening, too.

BlackSparrow

JWKe wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

My guess is that the price takes into consideration interior space, exterior space and location.

Like Snug Pod. On it's own it's a terrible house, but when you factor in that it's literally inside eldenroot, it's actually a pretty nice little house.

This doesn't make sense with the khenarthi's roost house though. It's not near anything important, and it has very little space and no exterior. It's also a midrange price for the small houses, with some of the cheaper or equally priced houses having both more room and an exterior.

There's definitely an inconsistency with the pricing. As for example Autumn's Gate a Nord styled house is priced at 60k but has a nice and big front yard. Humblemud is also another house in the small category priced at 40k with a yard.

Moonmirth "K-roost" and HD-Bungalow, along with Captain Margeux in daggerfall definitely got the short end of the stick in this category.

Then again, Humblemud is an Argonian-style mud house, which many people find unattractive (I've heard multiple people call it "a poop house"). Sheer undesirability accounts for the low price on that one, even though the location across the street from a crafting hub is pretty nice. Then again, the nearest wayshrine is a bit far off.

I'll agree that the small ones without a yard just aren't exciting either, but... some people don't want a yard. Some people just want a place to plop a bunch of crafting stations without going through an extra door. To each their own. *shrug*

Most disappointing for me is Kragenhome. It has no yard and is in a "meh" location and yet is one of the most expensive small houses. What's the price for: the fact that it's not a rectangle and has a little 1/2 floor? The prices I pay to keep my Dunmer main happy.

I guess it's true to real life, though. I'm shopping for a townhouse irl right now, which involves a homeowner's association managing the community spaces. Perhaps places like Captain Margeaux's and Snugpod have exteriors managed by the city or plantation (in the case of Moonmirth)? Can't think of what Hammerdeath's excuse is, though. XD

TheShadowScout

There -IS- no outside area to costomize to those houses. Since every house is instanced, and thus only has an "outside area" if it has an fenced in garden within its instanced land... which those small houses just don't have.

Its a tradeoff, but not a big one... want a home cluttered with lots of stuff in one place, go for that size, also want a garden, go for one of the bigger ones where all your stuff will be spread over more rooms.

In the end, its ony a question of what style you like... just like the houses. Some want the earthy feel of a mud house, others want a solid stone home, others still want a gaudy gilded domicile... each as they like!

STEVIL

JWKe wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

My guess is that the price takes into consideration interior space, exterior space and location.

Like Snug Pod. On it's own it's a terrible house, but when you factor in that it's literally inside eldenroot, it's actually a pretty nice little house.

This doesn't make sense with the khenarthi's roost house though. It's not near anything important, and it has very little space and no exterior. It's also a midrange price for the small houses, with some of the cheaper or equally priced houses having both more room and an exterior.

There's definitely an inconsistency with the pricing. As for example Autumn's Gate a Nord styled house is priced at 60k but has a nice and big front yard. Humblemud is also another house in the small category priced at 40k with a yard.

Moonmirth "K-roost" and HD-Bungalow, along with Captain Margeux in daggerfall definitely got the short end of the stick in this category.

moonmirth and hammerdeath were two i rejected right off the bat as nothing about them drew me in.

however, let me say, one difference that is slight negative for front yard vs no yard homes is front yards means two doors to go thru to leave by normal walking out - exit the house and then exit the yard.

That is why i prefer houses with backyards - from inside you only have one door to exit if you want and the other door to go out into the yard to play around with.

But i think every "house" i bought had a yard except for Silent magnifico in Sentinel which just looked too cool and was too well placed to pass up for me - even without yard.

Location was my primary decider (up to 2/3 of the rank for me) but secondary included yard over no yard, rooms/divided spaces over big open halls and certain styles over others.

greylox

Seems a bit weird. Can't see why anyone would buy one without an outside unless it's purely for location.

Jacen_Veron

Small houses literally serve no purpose; as the private rooms are exactly the same but 4x cheaper than most small homes.
Other than potential location, the only advantage is the doubled furnishings, which you can barely fit in the one room house anyway.

The pricing on the houses; especially considering functionality, location, size, appearance, and price of houses in previous TES titles; are completely baffling.
A mud hut is not worth 40k in my opinion. The mud mansion, mabey, but not the hut.

Considering most houses will be bought solely on appearance, size, and location; since houses have little to no functionallity; the prices that have been set seem rather unreasonable.
This is especially so for Small homes, since they are near identical to private rooms and are 4-6x the price.

Overall price becomes the ultimate decision maker and if you're willing to grind for gold.
And when it comes to small houses its just better stick with the private room and save up for a medium sized house which is opulently priced at 3-6x a small house, or a large being 12-18x.

If you still can't tell, I'm salty over prices.

TheShadowScout

Jacen_Veron wrote: »

Small houses literally serve no purpose...

...your opinion.

I love them! Just wish I had more knicknacks to fill mine up... but in time, i will collect those.

But I buy those for two reasons - roleplaying, and alt-ing. I love having a rolepay "hideout" for my shady main character - and those homes are just the right cozy "hideout" size!
And it allows me to eventually have one racial-type home for each of my alts without having to pay too much... which I then will also be able to use as RP locations for my mains.

But in the end, we have all those selections for a reason, so that everyone can go for what they feel is best for their desires. I like multiple small houses. Others may want one great estate. Each as they please...

BlackSparrow

greylox wrote: »

Seems a bit weird. Can't see why anyone would buy one without an outside unless it's purely for location.

Location, yeah, and also roleplay compatibility.

I've gotten two of the yard-less houses: Hammerdeath and Kragenhome. The former because it's a good style and location for my hunter/hermit type (aka, a gloomy gray box in the middle of nowhere XD ); the latter because it's the small Dunmer house, and what, you expect a Dunmer to live in a house that's in some inferior race's style?

Basically, they were the perfect ones for those characters, regardless that they're yard-less.

Though it helps that I've gotten multiple houses, including a medium one with a massive yard, so I have other exteriors to mess around with if I get bit by a gardening bug.

Sheezabeast

I highly recommend you purchase Twin Arches, its a staple house in Bankorai that is only 73,000 gold, and has a lovely yard!

Lynx7386

I don't think I'll be able to afford the medium one in rawl'kha for a long time, unfortunately.

Duiwel

You get what you pay for.

Lynx7386

Duiwel wrote: »

You get what you pay for.

Except you really dont.

Some small houses at the 50k range have a lot of space and a yard, while others at the exact same price have less space and no hard.

There is no consistency with housing.

Tai-Chi

Tannus15 wrote: »

My guess is that the price takes into consideration interior space, exterior space and location.

Like Snug Pod. On it's own it's a terrible house, but when you factor in that it's literally inside eldenroot, it's actually a pretty nice little house.

As you say; it is a good wayshrine - 54K gold from memory.

I do not have any Wood Elf chars and I do not like much of their furniture. Nevertheless, I have been making Wood Elf furniture, just to add to the number-count for my larger home and the "Master of all Crafts" Achievement. When I have no more free spaces in the larger home, I shall transfer the Wood Elf stuff to Snug Pod. It will serve as a quaint holiday retreat for when my chars need a break from their life of luxury! It will remind them how life used to be when they first bought their run-down, empty-shell of a large home.

raj72616a

not everyone like a yard. not everyone like interior. it's good to have different options

max_only

I need an instanced glen or meadow.. you know those "doors" in Valenwood that are crossed vines that move when you activate them? Yeah, I want that to be the entrance to my own private forest clearing. The whole thing is an exterior.

FelixTheCatt

I like my Snugpod. Its small , yes , but cozy! I'll take cozy over an oversized house where I'm reminded how lonely I am inside the game. ><