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Uriel_Nocturne

There's a point to the OP that I seem to be missing...

Mic1007

Based on the "Learn to Play" on the bottom, I'm guessing you photoshopped the heck out of this picture.

Tryxus

Gargath

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

SirAndy

Gargath wrote: »

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

I agree, my tooltip shows 11,322 damage at max. stage in PvE.

There's no way it should hit for almost 3x that in PvP ...

mb10

SirAndy wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

I agree, my tooltip shows 11,322 damage at max. stage in PvE.

There's no way it should hit for almost 3x that in PvP ...

my tooltip said 21k the other day

still hit 15k non crit on people it makes no sense because apparently the attack ignores resistance?

So where the hell is the other 6k?

Mic1007

mb10 wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

I agree, my tooltip shows 11,322 damage at max. stage in PvE.

There's no way it should hit for almost 3x that in PvP ...

my tooltip said 21k the other day

still hit 15k non crit on people it makes no sense because apparently the attack ignores resistance?

So where the hell is the other 6k?

It ignores Physical Resistance, not CP passives like Hardy.

Gargath

SirAndy wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

I agree, my tooltip shows 11,322 damage at max. stage in PvE.

There's no way it should hit for almost 3x that in PvP ...

Correct, and I'd like to see someone killing with this ability poor damage to get back the ultimate points

Mashille

It's Blobs' Tank Spank 1 Shot Gank build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gt96TD_S9E

Strider_Roshin

My Goodness!!!! Everyone look at this rare, and spectacular sight! Someone actually managed to capture an image of this ability being used in game. Never thought I'd see the day...



Also that hint is amazing

Danksta

SirAndy wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

I agree, my tooltip shows 11,322 damage at max. stage in PvE.

There's no way it should hit for almost 3x that in PvP ...

Fully buffed (rally, relentless focus, shadowy disguise, radiant magelight with a nirnhoned weapon from stealth) my Onslaught hits mobs for about 60-70k and in PvP has hit for 30k.

WhiteMage

I've been killed by this twice, but they had to throw an executioner in there. This was in azuras star; wish I had the opportunity to fight them back because it would have went very poorly for them.

Buffler

I have this build on my gankblade....its a right laugh, esp when you catch a mounted player running past and time it right

Jim_Pipp

Danksta wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

I agree, my tooltip shows 11,322 damage at max. stage in PvE.

There's no way it should hit for almost 3x that in PvP ...

Fully buffed (rally, relentless focus, shadowy disguise, radiant magelight with a nirnhoned weapon from stealth) my Onslaught hits mobs for about 60-70k and in PvP has hit for 30k.

@Danksta I have heard of people getting these numbers, and I have an idea for a variation on the build, but to see if it is going in the right direction could you please tell me what your max stam and weapon damage are like when you are fully buffed. I'd be very grateful.

DRXHarbinger

mb10 wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

I agree, my tooltip shows 11,322 damage at max. stage in PvE.

There's no way it should hit for almost 3x that in PvP ...

my tooltip said 21k the other day

still hit 15k non crit on people it makes no sense because apparently the attack ignores resistance?

So where the hell is the other 6k?

Tbs with shadow mundus. Stamblade, relentless focus and nirnhoned weapon (sharpened pointless with this attack) I've instagibbed many HA Dks with this attack.

Saturn

Looks like you A: have very little points in Hardy and B: have no Impenetrable gear. The reason why I say that is because, my highest crit on a player with onslaught from stealth was 26k and that person had no impenetrabl gear and no hardy cp.

The thing I'm trying to say is, if this skill oneshot you for that much it basically means you aren't running a very good setup for PvP. A player with good CP setup and Impenetrable gear will take no more than 15-17k damage from this skill, again based on my own experience running a setup that tried to oneshot people from stealth with that.

DRXHarbinger

Saturn wrote: »

Looks like you A: have very little points in Hardy and B: have no Impenetrable gear. The reason why I say that is because, my highest crit on a player with onslaught from stealth was 26k and that person had no impenetrabl gear and no hardy cp.

The thing I'm trying to say is, if this skill oneshot you for that much it basically means you aren't running a very good setup for PvP. A player with good CP setup and Impenetrable gear will take no more than 15-17k damage from this skill, again based on my own experience running a setup that tried to oneshot people from stealth with that.

Ultimates pull you from stealth anyway don't they. Otherwise you'd be doing 3x that figure. Stealth and ulti doesn't work. Otherwise you'd be getting people dbos a whole zerg.

Saturn

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

I agree, my tooltip shows 11,322 damage at max. stage in PvE.

There's no way it should hit for almost 3x that in PvP ...

my tooltip said 21k the other day

still hit 15k non crit on people it makes no sense because apparently the attack ignores resistance?

So where the hell is the other 6k?

Tbs with shadow mundus. Stamblade, relentless focus and nirnhoned weapon (sharpened pointless with this attack) I've instagibbed many HA Dks with this attack.

Why would you run TBS? You only need the Shadow Mundus since crit doesn't do anything when you are using a stealth attack (since they always crit), plus if you wanted 100% crit you could just pop the nb cloak for that.

In the oneshot setup I run with Onslaught I use Automaton and Clever Alchemist for max weapon damage (although I had forgotten about the Nirnhoned weapon trait change, might try that out).

DRXHarbinger

Saturn wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

I agree, my tooltip shows 11,322 damage at max. stage in PvE.

There's no way it should hit for almost 3x that in PvP ...

my tooltip said 21k the other day

still hit 15k non crit on people it makes no sense because apparently the attack ignores resistance?

So where the hell is the other 6k?

Tbs with shadow mundus. Stamblade, relentless focus and nirnhoned weapon (sharpened pointless with this attack) I've instagibbed many HA Dks with this attack.

Why would you run TBS? You only need the Shadow Mundus since crit doesn't do anything when you are using a stealth attack (since they always crit), plus if you wanted 100% crit you could just pop the nb cloak for that.

In the oneshot setup I run with Onslaught I use Automaton and Clever Alchemist for max weapon damage (although I had forgotten about the Nirnhoned weapon trait change, might try that out).

Because it's more versatile than relying on pure ganking and being cloaked. It still cuts through full impen builds. and when not in stealth you need high crit to use it too. Is automaton worth it for this? Surely Widowmaker is still better. Haven't tried it since the changes to poison proc chance / rate. Personally preference is widowmaker, Poisonous serpent (poison procs and then give them a light attack to finish them off and nirnhoned maul with prismatic glyph) prior to yesterday it did kill any vampire instantly. Haven't tried with homestead update. I never opened up with onslaught, I'd give them a sup attack as it hits for stupid damage and then bash them with the hammer. Dead in 1s flat in a good gank.

If not ganking I run tbs. The damage output is tremendously high in the age of heavy armor and impen. Yes you die quicker but running tbs, selene and vma sharp or nirnhoned maul you can crit rush, sup attack and killers blade pretty much anyone under 32k health.

Also nirnhoned is THE weapon to use on sorcs and shield stackers. Does the most damage to shields and once thier shields are down they'll die quick anyway. Sharpened or not.

Danksta

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I'd like my onslaught to deal so high damage in pve.

I agree, my tooltip shows 11,322 damage at max. stage in PvE.

There's no way it should hit for almost 3x that in PvP ...

Fully buffed (rally, relentless focus, shadowy disguise, radiant magelight with a nirnhoned weapon from stealth) my Onslaught hits mobs for about 60-70k and in PvP has hit for 30k.

@Danksta I have heard of people getting these numbers, and I have an idea for a variation on the build, but to see if it is going in the right direction could you please tell me what your max stam and weapon damage are like when you are fully buffed. I'd be very grateful.

@Jim_Pipp

Weapon damage sits at about 5.5k and max stam is only about 29k (khajiit running mag and stam drinks).

Tommy_The_Gun

From the wiki:
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Two-Handed+Skills
Onslaught (Two-Handed ult morph):

- Strike an enemy with a vicious blow, dealing [x] Physical Damage.
- This attack ignores the target's mitigation and grants you Physical and Spell Resistance equal to the amount ignored for [8] seconds.
- Killing an enemy with this ability immediately refunds the Ultimate cost.

So.. correct if I am wrong but.. it complacently ignores mitigation (basically when hit by this your armour is 0, and it does not meter if you are blocking or not) ? And if it will be a killing blow, then your ult points are refunded, so you can hit someone else with this ult...

So if you have high crit chance and high crit dmg... yes it is possible to deal that much of a dmg... OMG
#Balance

Saturn

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Saturn wrote: »

Looks like you A: have very little points in Hardy and B: have no Impenetrable gear. The reason why I say that is because, my highest crit on a player with onslaught from stealth was 26k and that person had no impenetrabl gear and no hardy cp.

The thing I'm trying to say is, if this skill oneshot you for that much it basically means you aren't running a very good setup for PvP. A player with good CP setup and Impenetrable gear will take no more than 15-17k damage from this skill, again based on my own experience running a setup that tried to oneshot people from stealth with that.

Ultimates pull you from stealth anyway don't they. Otherwise you'd be doing 3x that figure. Stealth and ulti doesn't work. Otherwise you'd be getting people dbos a whole zerg.

No, not all ultimates pull you from stealth and stamina based ones get stealth crit multiplier, which is why a onslaught oneshot build is possible.

EnOeZ

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

From the wiki:
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Two-Handed+Skills
Onslaught (Two-Handed ult morph):

- Strike an enemy with a vicious blow, dealing [x] Physical Damage.
- This attack ignores the target's mitigation and grants you Physical and Spell Resistance equal to the amount ignored for [8] seconds.
- Killing an enemy with this ability immediately refunds the Ultimate cost.

So.. correct if I am wrong but.. it complacently ignores mitigation (basically when hit by this your armour is 0, and it does not meter if you are blocking or not) ? And if it will be a killing blow, then your ult points are refunded, so you can hit someone else with this ult...

So if you have high crit chance and high crit dmg... yes it is possible to deal that much of a dmg... OMG
#Balance

Blocking it works.
Using shields too, negating the interest.
Have higher executes than onslaughts though.
Death by this is much much rarer that death by Eye of the storm however.

DHale

That is not one ability in most cases. Getting a death recount is diengenous. Are you blocking? Did this crit ad/or was it empowered with radiant. Were you standing there in the open, were you afk? Were you hit out of stealth? Was this a khajit or wood elf nightblade. You don't need onslaught to gank people. Most of all did you have radiant mage light?

IcyDeadPeople

I think the ability is fine. It's an ultimate, kind of tricky to pull off successful gank and this is a nice counter to all the heavy armor players at phys resistance cap these days.

And for anyone seriously worried about getting ganked by someone using onslaught, just sacrifice an ability slot for radiant magelight.

goldenarcher1

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

From the wiki:
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Two-Handed+Skills
Onslaught (Two-Handed ult morph):

- Strike an enemy with a vicious blow, dealing [x] Physical Damage.
- This attack ignores the target's mitigation and grants you Physical and Spell Resistance equal to the amount ignored for [8] seconds.
- Killing an enemy with this ability immediately refunds the Ultimate cost.

So.. correct if I am wrong but.. it complacently ignores mitigation (basically when hit by this your armour is 0, and it does not meter if you are blocking or not) ? And if it will be a killing blow, then your ult points are refunded, so you can hit someone else with this ult...

So if you have high crit chance and high crit dmg... yes it is possible to deal that much of a dmg... OMG
#Balance

....even more damage with scroll/enemy keep bonus.