Help with raising DPS - Tips?

swanvalkyrie · February 2017

Hi All,

I've been using Deltias (Tamirel One) Mag Sorc build. I've been farming the Burning Spellweave (just need to make it gold). I had a friend make my other staff but it too is Gold and lighitning with Divines, and clothing is julianos (Purple).

With deltias build, I put down both Elemental Blockade and Lighquid Lightening, when I swap bars and do force pulse with light weaving (to proc C-Frags) its only doing about 10K all up I think. I am CP350 with Thives Mundas (spell crit runs at 63% I believe). When the boss is down to less than 20% health and I do mages fury it only does about 10k Damage?

Masel · February 2017

swanvalkyrie wrote: »

Hi All,

I've been using Deltias (Tamirel One) Mag Sorc build. I've been farming the Burning Spellweave (just need to make it gold). I had a friend make my other staff but it too is Gold and lighitning with Divines, and clothing is julianos (Purple).

With deltias build, I put down both Elemental Blockade and Lighquid Lightening, when I swap bars and do force pulse with light weaving (to proc C-Frags) its only doing about 10K all up I think. I am CP350 with Thives Mundas (spell crit runs at 63% I believe). When the boss is down to less than 20% health and I do mages fury it only does about 10k Damage?

Hey! We'd need more info from you, easiest is usually to get the addon "mybuild" and post a Screenshot here, that contains all we need to know in order to help you

Important would be:

Weapon traits and enchantment, jewellery enchantments, bar setup, stats.

So help us out with that and we can help you out!

Nestor · February 2017

Animation Canceling?

Liofa · February 2017

Nestor wrote: »

Animation Canceling?

This .

swanvalkyrie · February 2017

Ok I will post pics soon!!

And yes to animation cancelling

MartinDeShade · February 2017

I find a lot of people with low dps numbers because they refuse to use their ultimates enough. I saw somebody doing a dps check that only started the fight with Meteor then never used it again. Probably wasn't doing enough light attacks to get his ultimates up, or just never thought of it.

swanvalkyrie · February 2017

Nah I use my ultimate everytime and light weave to get ulti up

Kobiwan_shinobi · February 2017

+1 for more information.

It's hard to pinpoint were you are going wrong until we have a full breakdown of:

Gear (Inc weapons & jewelry)
Traits
Enchantments
Champion point distribution
Stats (spell damage, Max magicka)
Test environment (what are you testing your DPS on... Dummy/bosses/are you in a group dun/solo dun?

How are you tracking dps?
Working it out based on estimated Time to kill (edit)? Are you using add-ons.

There are a large number of factors. Please give us as much info as possible le and I'm sure we can get you hitting 20k -25k with quick changes to rotation etc.

swanvalkyrie · February 2017

Great Thankyou leave it with me while I get some photos!

Narvuntien · February 2017

opps wrong thread

swanvalkyrie · February 2017

myven · February 2017

I am no elitist and won't pretend I know everything about this, but at a first glimse at the screenshots I reacted on the enchantments and traits of the gear and jewelry. I don't think you should rely on health for survival, so always enchant the gear with Magicka and the jewelry with Spell Power for more dps. Also, the Willpower rings has Robust trait (Stamina increase) when you should really use Magicka Trait (don't remember the name of the trait).

swanvalkyrie · February 2017

Yeah the willpower was given to me by a friend, I have been trying to find a new set. All of my clothing is magicka?

myven · February 2017

swanvalkyrie wrote: »

Yeah the willpower was given to me by a friend, I have been trying to find a new set. All of my clothing is magicka?

Your girdle has Health enchantment and impenetrable trait. I think it should be max magicka and divine.

Also Ilambris monster helmet has health instead of max magicka.

There will always be room for improvement of course, you will get there

swanvalkyrie · February 2017

Sorry I should have mentioned that I won't be using the girdle. I will be using all spellweave. I guess I should have made sure that allthe farming for spellweave was not only divines (which I have) but also increase magicka

I don't remember what it has now... lame.

Same with llambris. Farming for the best products seriously takes months....

myven · February 2017

swanvalkyrie wrote: »

Sorry I should have mentioned that I won't be using the girdle. I will be using all spellweave. I guess I should have made sure that allthe farming for spellweave was not only divines (which I have) but also increase magicka I don't remember what it has now... lame.

Same with llambris. Farming for the best products seriously takes months....

Yes, BSW is great.

You can enchant your gear with max magicka yourself. Just buy the material and right click the item and enchant. Though, think the BSW already has max magicka on them.

With the changes you plan you will increase your dps a lot.

swanvalkyrie · February 2017

Really? That's great I certainly hope so!! Should I enchant with max magicka for all of those clothing? Why not spell damage for half and half?

Kobiwan_shinobi · February 2017

Thank you for your screenshots however I still need to know what your stats are....

Magicka
Spell damage
Spell crit
Spell penetration etc.
What mundus stone are you using
Do you use food/ drink

First of all you want to loose the magicka recovery enchant on jewls and slot spell damage enchants. That will give you a 20-30% damage increase immediately.

Also make sure you are using Desto on your main DPS bar. This will help you weave light attacks. That will increase dps by a fair amount.
You can watch YouTube Vids on animation canceling and weaving...

I will help more one I know your stats.

Also bow are you monitoring your 'DPS'?

Raghul · February 2017

Perhaps this video might help you
It is a buildvideo with dps test on dummie, 40k+dps without raidbuffs

https://youtu.be/iZOZbIMXwuA

Tempah · February 2017

@Raghul how much dps does the pet do with daedric prey?
I am still thinking if I should use the imp is it worth it?

Masel · February 2017

Tempah wrote: »

@Raghul how much dps does the pet do with daedric prey?
I am still thinking if I should use the imp is it worth it?

Yep it is. But keep in mind that it gets killed by one-shot mechanics. You can either run it and recast it afterwards or switch to a regular setup with it.

Tempah · February 2017

Masel92 wrote: »

Tempah wrote: »

@Raghul how much dps does the pet do with daedric prey?
I am still thinking if I should use the imp is it worth it?

Yep it is. But keep in mind that it gets killed by one-shot mechanics. You can either run it and recast it afterwards or switch to a regular setup with it.

How big is the damage difference between someone not using a pet and someone using a pet (with daedric prey)?
And than you for your answer

Molydeus · February 2017

Assuming equal skill and gearing, the guy using the familar with daedric prey will totally dominate at aoe fights. Single target they will be comparable, but you have to remember that the pet can get one shot in some cases and then a large part of your dps is gone until you resummon. He can be a liability at times that a petless sorc doesn't have to worry about. That said, I prefer using a pet after the Homestead buffs. The damage is just too real.

Tempah · February 2017

Molydeus wrote: »

Assuming equal skill and gearing, the guy using the familar with daedric prey will totally dominate at aoe fights. Single target they will be comparable, but you have to remember that the pet can get one shot in some cases and then a large part of your dps is gone until you resummon. He can be a liability at times that a petless sorc doesn't have to worry about. That said, I prefer using a pet after the Homestead buffs. The damage is just too real.

I will try it out with prey when I get home then :0

Raghul · February 2017

Tempah wrote: »

@Raghul how much dps does the pet do with daedric prey?
I am still thinking if I should use the imp is it worth it?

As you can see on my dps test there i had like 40k dps with the pet, here is a video of me doing the dps test with burning spellweave setup without pet, i had 36k dps here but keep in mind i had to apply drain myself all the time so there is abit of downtime because i can not cast another damage skill when i use ele drain myself

https://youtu.be/-9F7ZEVBx4g

And if you would like the build video for this:

https://youtu.be/y6nBy06Lzmo

Tempah · February 2017

Raghul wrote: »

Tempah wrote: »

@Raghul how much dps does the pet do with daedric prey?
I am still thinking if I should use the imp is it worth it?

As you can see on my dps test there i had like 40k dps with the pet, here is a video of me doing the dps test with burning spellweave setup without pet, i had 36k dps here but keep in mind i had to apply drain myself all the time so there is abit of downtime because i can not cast another damage skill when i use ele drain myself
https://youtu.be/-9F7ZEVBx4g

And if you would like the build video for this:
https://youtu.be/y6nBy06Lzmo

@Raghul

Thanks, I get around 34k dps without prey and pet (I also needed to reapply drain myself no one wanted to help me

) But I am missing a sharp moodancer staff and sharp ma staff.

Ill try out the pet next time when I get online

I also subscribed to you xD.

I am also not really of the numbers but is 34k good or is it decent?

Masel · February 2017

Tempah wrote: »

Raghul wrote: »

Tempah wrote: »

@Raghul how much dps does the pet do with daedric prey?
I am still thinking if I should use the imp is it worth it?

As you can see on my dps test there i had like 40k dps with the pet, here is a video of me doing the dps test with burning spellweave setup without pet, i had 36k dps here but keep in mind i had to apply drain myself all the time so there is abit of downtime because i can not cast another damage skill when i use ele drain myself
https://youtu.be/-9F7ZEVBx4g

And if you would like the build video for this:
https://youtu.be/y6nBy06Lzmo

@Raghul

Thanks, I get around 34k dps without prey and pet (I also needed to reapply drain myself no one wanted to help me ) But I am missing a sharp moodancer staff and sharp ma staff.

Ill try out the pet next time when I get online I also subscribed to you xD.

I am also not really of the numbers but is 34k good or is it decent?

34k is surely enough to do anything on the game well. The border to good is around ~30k on single target. So no worries

Raghul · February 2017

Tempah wrote: »

Raghul wrote: »

Tempah wrote: »

@Raghul how much dps does the pet do with daedric prey?
I am still thinking if I should use the imp is it worth it?

As you can see on my dps test there i had like 40k dps with the pet, here is a video of me doing the dps test with burning spellweave setup without pet, i had 36k dps here but keep in mind i had to apply drain myself all the time so there is abit of downtime because i can not cast another damage skill when i use ele drain myself
https://youtu.be/-9F7ZEVBx4g

And if you would like the build video for this:
https://youtu.be/y6nBy06Lzmo

@Raghul

Thanks, I get around 34k dps without prey and pet (I also needed to reapply drain myself no one wanted to help me ) But I am missing a sharp moodancer staff and sharp ma staff.

Ill try out the pet next time when I get online I also subscribed to you xD.

I am also not really of the numbers but is 34k good or is it decent?

34K is very good m8, and thanks alot for the subscription!

i really appreciete it

Tempah · February 2017

Raghul wrote: »

Tempah wrote: »

Raghul wrote: »

Tempah wrote: »

@Raghul how much dps does the pet do with daedric prey?
I am still thinking if I should use the imp is it worth it?

As you can see on my dps test there i had like 40k dps with the pet, here is a video of me doing the dps test with burning spellweave setup without pet, i had 36k dps here but keep in mind i had to apply drain myself all the time so there is abit of downtime because i can not cast another damage skill when i use ele drain myself
https://youtu.be/-9F7ZEVBx4g

And if you would like the build video for this:
https://youtu.be/y6nBy06Lzmo

@Raghul

Thanks, I get around 34k dps without prey and pet (I also needed to reapply drain myself no one wanted to help me ) But I am missing a sharp moodancer staff and sharp ma staff.

Ill try out the pet next time when I get online I also subscribed to you xD.

I am also not really of the numbers but is 34k good or is it decent?

34K is very good m8, and thanks alot for the subscription! i really appreciete it

Masel92 wrote: »

Tempah wrote: »

Raghul wrote: »

Tempah wrote: »

@Raghul how much dps does the pet do with daedric prey?
I am still thinking if I should use the imp is it worth it?

As you can see on my dps test there i had like 40k dps with the pet, here is a video of me doing the dps test with burning spellweave setup without pet, i had 36k dps here but keep in mind i had to apply drain myself all the time so there is abit of downtime because i can not cast another damage skill when i use ele drain myself
https://youtu.be/-9F7ZEVBx4g

And if you would like the build video for this:
https://youtu.be/y6nBy06Lzmo

@Raghul

Thanks, I get around 34k dps without prey and pet (I also needed to reapply drain myself no one wanted to help me ) But I am missing a sharp moodancer staff and sharp ma staff.

Ill try out the pet next time when I get online I also subscribed to you xD.

I am also not really of the numbers but is 34k good or is it decent?

34k is surely enough to do anything on the game well. The border to good is around ~30k on single target. So no worries

I hope I can get my rotation good and use the pet to also get 40k dps

and thank you to both of you .`
If you got some tips I would be glad to hear them, except getting a sharp inferno ma staff or sharp moondancer staff

parkham · February 2017

[..]Hey! We'd need more info from you, easiest is usually to get the addon "mybuild" and post a Screenshot here, that contains all we need to know in order to help you

Somewhat related post. I just checked the addon you talked about - it's awesome from the screenshot anyway. "My build continued"

swanvalkyrie · February 2017

I'm on console! So can't use addons. I put on BWS and my stats dropped. So back to julanios. I did 8k

seems like I'm such a noob *sigh*.

This is after setting my character up with deltias build. I just don't understand it. Honestly how can there be that much of a difference?? THAT MUCH!? 8k as opposed to 30 when I've got most of the gear and using the most of the same skills