Black Rose Armor

Dethjestic69

Black Rose:
"This item set’s 4-piece bonus now grants Maximum Magicka instead of Maximum Stamina."
Just one question, Why?

Bislobo

To make it more balanced and usable by both magicka and stamina builds. Good move imo.

Lynx7386

Better for hybrids

Danksta

To make it more viable for magicka characters.

Cavedog

And just to be clear, the constitution bonus was 40% until a homestead was released; now it's 35%....it's like they nerfed everything any stam based toon would use.

TrueGreenSmoker

Now you can be a hybrid in a zerg

Dark_Aether

Cavedog wrote: »

And just to be clear, the constitution bonus was 40% until a homestead was released; now it's 35%....it's like they nerfed everything any stam based toon would use.

There is a reason why every stam build started to wear it like a god damn uniform. It went from needing at least 2k stam regen in TG to 700 being to much. SMH

Mojomonkeyman

Dethjestic69 wrote: »

Black Rose:
"This item set’s 4-piece bonus now grants Maximum Magicka instead of Maximum Stamina."
Just one question, Why?

Because subpar magicka players wouldnt stop crying until they got the only prominent mildly more stam focused sustain set turned into what it is now, while having access to not yet nerfed desert rose, syrabanae, lich, warlord, amberplasm, seducer and im sure theres more.

People have absolutely no bias in this game and are very competent in regards to balance.

I didn`t use black rose btw, I just find above mentioned facts hilarious.

Jamini

The change was barely felt. I still enjoy using my gold Blackrose in Azura's Star. (I wish the Aldmeri Dominion heavy armor look wasn't so ugly though...)

GawdSB

Because ZOS

Lynx7386

I'd like to use black rose, but tel var stones are such a pain

Dark_Aether

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Dethjestic69 wrote: »

Black Rose:
"This item set’s 4-piece bonus now grants Maximum Magicka instead of Maximum Stamina."
Just one question, Why?

Because subpar magicka players wouldnt stop crying until they got the only prominent mildly more stam focused sustain set turned into what it is now, while having access to not yet nerfed desert rose, syrabanae, lich, warlord, amberplasm, seducer and im sure theres more.

People have absolutely no bias in this game and are very competent in regards to balance.

I didn`t use black rose btw, I just find above mentioned facts hilarious.

Well, I used it and most of the sets you mentioned, which are all light armor btw except Seducer which is crafted. None of them give you insane sustain, max stats (which translate to damage) while being tanky.

Mojomonkeyman

Dark_Aether wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Dethjestic69 wrote: »

Black Rose:
"This item set’s 4-piece bonus now grants Maximum Magicka instead of Maximum Stamina."
Just one question, Why?

Because subpar magicka players wouldnt stop crying until they got the only prominent mildly more stam focused sustain set turned into what it is now, while having access to not yet nerfed desert rose, syrabanae, lich, warlord, amberplasm, seducer and im sure theres more.

People have absolutely no bias in this game and are very competent in regards to balance.

I didn`t use black rose btw, I just find above mentioned facts hilarious.

Well, I used it and most of the sets you mentioned, which are all light armor btw except Seducer which is crafted. None of them give you insane sustain, max stats (which translate to damage) while being tanky.

Ye, prenerf desert rose and amberplasm were total trash... not even worth mentioning

Dark_Aether

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Dark_Aether wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Dethjestic69 wrote: »

Black Rose:
"This item set’s 4-piece bonus now grants Maximum Magicka instead of Maximum Stamina."
Just one question, Why?

Because subpar magicka players wouldnt stop crying until they got the only prominent mildly more stam focused sustain set turned into what it is now, while having access to not yet nerfed desert rose, syrabanae, lich, warlord, amberplasm, seducer and im sure theres more.

People have absolutely no bias in this game and are very competent in regards to balance.

I didn`t use black rose btw, I just find above mentioned facts hilarious.

Well, I used it and most of the sets you mentioned, which are all light armor btw except Seducer which is crafted. None of them give you insane sustain, max stats (which translate to damage) while being tanky.

Ye, prenerf desert rose and amberplasm were total trash... not even worth mentioning

That's the point, toning down sets that are overperforming. Honestly, I won't mind if they reduced Amberplasm to 200 stam/mag recovery.

Parafrost

Cavedog wrote: »

And just to be clear, the constitution bonus was 40% until a homestead was released; now it's 35%....it's like they nerfed everything any stam based toon would use.

Yea. Rip 80 more stam back... like that makes a difference. Atleast now i can cast my igneous shield 1 more time before im out of magicka .

Parafrost

Dark_Aether wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Dethjestic69 wrote: »

Black Rose:
"This item set’s 4-piece bonus now grants Maximum Magicka instead of Maximum Stamina."
Just one question, Why?

Because subpar magicka players wouldnt stop crying until they got the only prominent mildly more stam focused sustain set turned into what it is now, while having access to not yet nerfed desert rose, syrabanae, lich, warlord, amberplasm, seducer and im sure theres more.

People have absolutely no bias in this game and are very competent in regards to balance.

I didn`t use black rose btw, I just find above mentioned facts hilarious.

Well, I used it and most of the sets you mentioned, which are all light armor btw except Seducer which is crafted. None of them give you insane sustain, max stats (which translate to damage) while being tanky.

Heavy seducer.