fastest ultimate generation?

Lynx7386

Just curious what's attainable in terms of quick ultimate generation. Had a thought that if you can get your ultimate gen fast enough, you might be able to keep an almost 100% uptime on shield wall as a tank.

Liofa

5 Tava's Favor , 5 Dragon/Werewolf , 1h/s on front bar with Heroic Slash , Dual Decisive Weapons on back bar with Invigorating Drain . 120 points spent in right blue CP tree to get Major Heroism when low Health . Yes , it is possible indeed .

EDIT : Almost forgot Blood Spawn .

bowmanz607

Liofa wrote: »

5 Tava's Favor , 5 Dragon/Werewolf , 1h/s on front bar with Heroic Slash , Dual Decisive Weapons on back bar with Invigorating Drain . 120 points spent in right blue CP tree to get Major Heroism when low Health . Yes , it is possible indeed .

EDIT : Almost forgot Blood Spawn .

you can also be a nb for even more ult gen.

Liofa

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Liofa wrote: »

5 Tava's Favor , 5 Dragon/Werewolf , 1h/s on front bar with Heroic Slash , Dual Decisive Weapons on back bar with Invigorating Drain . 120 points spent in right blue CP tree to get Major Heroism when low Health . Yes , it is possible indeed .

EDIT : Almost forgot Blood Spawn .

you can also be a nb for even more ult gen.

I think being a sorcerer for 15% Ultimate cost reduction would work better for long combats . It will reduce cost on Spell Wall by 15 for each use while NB gives 20 Ultimate every 45 seconds .

Autolycus

Liofa wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Liofa wrote: »

5 Tava's Favor , 5 Dragon/Werewolf , 1h/s on front bar with Heroic Slash , Dual Decisive Weapons on back bar with Invigorating Drain . 120 points spent in right blue CP tree to get Major Heroism when low Health . Yes , it is possible indeed .

EDIT : Almost forgot Blood Spawn .

you can also be a nb for even more ult gen.

I think being a sorcerer for 15% Ultimate cost reduction would work better for long combats . It will reduce cost on Spell Wall by 15 for each use while NB gives 20 Ultimate every 45 seconds .

Unless you slot Soul Harvest on your front bar and back-bar Shield Wall (the same can be accomplished by remaining on the back-bar and having Soul Harvest there, it really doesn't matter so long as you're on the bar with Soul Harvest when the enemies die). Also casting a Siphoning skill generates ultimate once every 4s, and any healing received (while not at full health) from something like Swallow Soul or Sap Essence further generates ult. It adds up really fast.

I have a sorc ulti-gen tank too and it's really awesome. So this isn't a discredit to Sorcs, just pointing out the pros of NBs this time.

Asardes

Also being a sorcerer helps, since you have a passive that decreases ultimate costs.

Shield wall is not that useful actually because some mechanics will still CC and knock you down if you aren't blocking for real. One of the few instances I found can't do without Spell Wall on a non DK tank is Mighty Chudan (both full and ghost form). That spit does a huge amount of damage even while shielded and blocking, and reflecting it back is actually great because it does a lot of damage to boss. A DK can just flap wings for the same effect and slot an ultimate with better group utility - I slot barrier on mine for the magicka recovery passive and those "oh ***" moments.

Ultimate gain is desirable, but just like other things you can't max it out without sacrificing other things. Werewolf's Hide does indeed add a lot of ultimate regeneration, but unless you can get weapon and shield with the ideal traits you will have to slot a medium piece - which is not bad if it's one of the lower resis ones like waist or hands because you get the undaunted mettle stats gain. Also using Dragon or Potentate on a DK has the downside of decreasing your stat gain from ultimate activation. Decisive trait is not that great since the gain is quite small in practice. Defending or infused - if you want to ensure maximum uptime for crusher enchat - is much better.

bowmanz607

Liofa wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Liofa wrote: »

5 Tava's Favor , 5 Dragon/Werewolf , 1h/s on front bar with Heroic Slash , Dual Decisive Weapons on back bar with Invigorating Drain . 120 points spent in right blue CP tree to get Major Heroism when low Health . Yes , it is possible indeed .

EDIT : Almost forgot Blood Spawn .

you can also be a nb for even more ult gen.

I think being a sorcerer for 15% Ultimate cost reduction would work better for long combats . It will reduce cost on Spell Wall by 15 for each use while NB gives 20 Ultimate every 45 seconds .

You also get 1 ultimate every 4 seconds for siphoning abilities. So over course of that 45 seconds you would get about 32 ult gen. Imo it is also easier to tank with a nb than a sorc.but I do see your point.

bowmanz607

On don't forget alliance war passive and fighters guild passives

Lynx7386

Was more looking into it for a future warden tank, but given that we don't know their passives or morphs yet a lot of details are still up in the air

BlackMadara

Asardes wrote: »

Also being a sorcerer helps, since you have a passive that decreases ultimate costs.

Shield wall is not that useful actually because some mechanics will still CC and knock you down if you aren't blocking for real. One of the few instances I found can't do without Spell Wall on a non DK tank is Mighty Chudan (both full and ghost form). That spit does a huge amount of damage even while shielded and blocking, and reflecting it back is actually great because it does a lot of damage to boss. A DK can just flap wings for the same effect and slot an ultimate with better group utility - I slot barrier on mine for the magicka recovery passive and those "oh ***" moments.

Ultimate gain is desirable, but just like other things you can't max it out without sacrificing other things. Werewolf's Hide does indeed add a lot of ultimate regeneration, but unless you can get weapon and shield with the ideal traits you will have to slot a medium piece - which is not bad if it's one of the lower resis ones like waist or hands because you get the undaunted mettle stats gain. Also using Dragon or Potentate on a DK has the downside of decreasing your stat gain from ultimate activation. Decisive trait is not that great since the gain is quite small in practice. Defending or infused - if you want to ensure maximum uptime for crusher enchat - is much better.

I'm pretty sure that battle roar is calculated off of base ult cost. For example, at stage 4 vamp, bat swarm gives the same amount of resources as meteor due to its base cost being 200 ult even though it costs 158.