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Double Damage Event in vMoL for 1 Week!

  • driosketch
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    Leandor wrote: »
    The only criticism I have for this, is why they waited two years for this kind of testing.

    According to the post about the test, it wasn't until recently that AS was full enough to see there was a difference.

    The other part is it's difficult to recreate the load on the test servers, but when they try to bring the testing to the live servers, players throw a fit.
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    People complain about the lag and demand ZOS fix it.

    ZOS decides to do a Live Server test to get at the root of the lag.

    People now complain about the test.
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  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Has any one started the sign up sheet yet? Need to make sure we have the right groups at the right places. Nothing is more embarrassing then havingv 2 dc groups trying to farm the same mine!
  • Leandor
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    driosketch wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    The only criticism I have for this, is why they waited two years for this kind of testing.

    According to the post about the test, it wasn't until recently that AS was full enough to see there was a difference.

    The other part is it's difficult to recreate the load on the test servers, but when they try to bring the testing to the live servers, players throw a fit.

    Well, the second part is what I meant: they knew for a long time that they can only test things related to cyro performance on live. Us players throw a fit for anything anyways, so...
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  • Liley
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    Wooow, how cool is that.
    Stop complaining, they are finally gonna do something about it!
    gonna spend the entire week in cyrodiil B)
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  • ZunaRoath
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    Leandor wrote: »
    God, I hate this community. Complaining non stop about performance in Cyro, but if they do something about it, you complain as well.

    For heaven's sake, the double AP will count towards nothing but rank ups of the skill lines.

    If you people would pull your heads out of your backends and participate in this test, maybe they collect valuable data. And maybe, just maybe, this will be used for improvement.

    Are you all by now just complain for complaining's sake? Just listen to yourselves.

    I can't agree so much more... Its so f* sad to see so many people complaining about this. For once ZOS does something for Cyro, and people complain. Just try to help, and if you don't want to, then don't. Don't try to convince others this is a bad idea so they don't help or whatever you want to achieve with your comments. Myself I can't wait to jump in Cyrodiil and fight people and help as much as I'm able for Zenimax to finally fix the PvP I so much love, so we can enjoy it more than we do (At least I do enjoy it lately, idk about the rest of you).

    It's so typical, new stuff = people complain because yes. I'll never understand this behaviour.
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  • Prof_Bawbag
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    God forbid Cyrodiil or more to the point PvP should get some love. PvPers deserve a lot more than some extra inane AP if truth be told. Maybe given an area that isn't always on the brink of imploding in on itself due to ridiculous lag, freezes and loading screens. ZoS are obviously throwing us some scraps in the hope we stfu for a while about the real problems plaguing Cyrodiil.
  • WuffyCerulei
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    Now, vMaw is something that people work hard to finish and get the fancy gear, skin, achievements, and that sought-after Dro-m'Athra Destroyer title. I don't think amplifying the damage you do in Maw because the PvP servers are getting double AP during a test is justified at all. However!! The anniversary for the release of the Thieves Guild DLC (and Maw of Lorkhaj) is coming up in a few weeks, and perhaps they'll do something with double nodes and loot like with the Orsinium anniversary. So for those people who run vMaw get double the fancy loot and get even more from their efforts.
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  • Ender1310
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    They are adding some type of battleground. Maybe not soon enough for some people but for others the timing is perfect.

  • Knootewoot
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    PvP used to be cool... now it is just ridiculous. What kind of competitive challenge is to run in a zerg and spam 1 skill and 1 ult.. over and over... until you encounter another enemy "zerg" and the one who has better internet provider (and has 888 ping instead of 999 ping) wins ?

    Sure you can play solo NB and gank people.. but it is MUCH slower Alliance Point grind.

    btw. ZOS needs to seriously think to give people a reason to PvP in Cyrodiil. What will happen when you unlock all 49 skill points ? You just have no more reason to play PvP. :#

    I PvP to have fun. Not to unlock anything. The reason to PvP is to PvP.
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  • DurzoBlint13
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    VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »
    Since there's going to be a double AP event starting next week,any chance to get a double damage event in vMoL just to bring PvE on par with PvP.

    /sarcasm

    Nice way to make PvP totally worthless,is going to be fun to see people running multiple accounts on same computer to gain AP afk in some outpost!
    Just wonderful...

    I am all in for the test week! If they can fix (or at the least IMPROVE) the lag that would be a huge step in the right direction. We can convince them to remove proc sets from PvP after they fix the lag. Lol But seriously, I have been taking a brake from the game and this is just the thing to get me back into it for a bit. Housing has no interest for me at all except for the DPS dummy, so I will play for double AP.....and the hope that they DO SOMETHING with Cyrodil
    VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »
    Since there's going to be a double AP event starting next week,any chance to get a double damage event in vMoL just to bring PvE on par with PvP
  • Duiwel
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    Why are people so salty?

    Guild wars 1 did these kinds of events on a weekly basis, either small scale pvp, large scale, some sort of PvE ect. But the double X currency bonus was there & it was a nice incentive.

    Why are there always haters?

    Imagine how many of the tens of thousands of NEW players on each platform will be grateful they can now have Vigor, or those players who always wanted Prox det but couldn't farm enough AP can now get it...

    I understand how some of us feel about it, but you have to take it as a whole!

    This will also assist plenty of people in attaining Emp... who would otherwise not have earned it.

    I am looking forward to getting Vigor on 2 of my alts which I never PvP with :wink: and then back to my regular PvE schedule...
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  • AlexanderDeLarge
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    If someone wants to run their electricity bill up by AFKing for 24 hours for what I could do with a decent PVP guild in an hour of play (and fun), be my guest.
    Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 11 years. 8 paid expansions. 29 dungeon and zone DLCs. 45 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. Just because Cadwell Silver&Gold failed doesn't mean the game should be brain dead easy forever.

    "ESO doesn't need a harder overland" on YouTube for a video of a naked level 3 character w/ no CP allocated AFKing in front of a bear for a minute and a half before dying if you don't believe me change is needed.
  • Ballzy321
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    whatbhsppens if they find out cp is the problem. Remove champion points in cyrodil all together?
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  • GeneralPardon
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    Ballzy321 wrote: »
    whatbhsppens if they find out cp is the problem. Remove champion points in cyrodil all together?

    Yes
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  • Ep1kMalware
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    Leandor wrote: »
    God, I hate this community. Complaining non stop about performance in Cyro, but if they do something about it, you complain as well.

    For heaven's sake, the double AP will count towards nothing but rank ups of the skill lines.

    If you people would pull your heads out of your backends and participate in this test, maybe they collect valuable data. And maybe, just maybe, this will be used for improvement.

    Are you all by now just complain for complaining's sake? Just listen to yourselves.

    I dont pvp, but I was thinking the same thing. Zos finally give them a kikker and every1 cries.
  • t3hdubzy
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    PvP used to be cool... now it is just ridiculous. What kind of competitive challenge is to run in a zerg and spam 1 skill and 1 ult.. over and over... until you encounter another enemy "zerg" and the one who has better internet provider (and has 888 ping instead of 999 ping) wins ?

    Sure you can play solo NB and gank people.. but it is MUCH slower Alliance Point grind.

    btw. ZOS needs to seriously think to give people a reason to PvP in Cyrodiil. What will happen when you unlock all 49 skill points ? You just have no more reason to play PvP. :#

    Incorrect, i take a hit rolling with more than one person. Otherwise its 1000 to 1800 per kill, and extra from capping and defending resources. Id never make top 100 rolling in a zerg as I dont play often enough.


    Also Zerging is not fun, but its not the only way people play. I run small scale on ps4 with morning star, and while we do encounter zergs, we dont play as a zerg and we do other things that help our alliance without getting zerged down.
  • t3hdubzy
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    VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    God, I hate this community. Complaining non stop about performance in Cyro, but if they do something about it, you complain as well.

    For heaven's sake, the double AP will count towards nothing but rank ups of the skill lines.

    If you people would pull your heads out of your backends and participate in this test, maybe they collect valuable data. And maybe, just maybe, this will be used for improvement.

    Are you all by now just complain for complaining's sake? Just listen to yourselves.

    Doing something about PvP?
    They've done nothing for the past 3 years NOTHING,and to test PvP stability they disable CP?LOL
    Performance is so garbage and even with the next week testing nothing will change cause everyone is going to stay AFK at the f****n outposts flipping flags without touching eachother.In Cyrodiil I expect to fight not to bury the hatchet and be friends.

    AP counts only towards rank ups and skill lines?Another ****y excuse to push more gold into already broken as hell economy,and for you info you can have unlimited ESO clients running,meaning next week there are going to be bots even Cyrodiil staying AFK at outposts waiting for clueless players flipping flags and get insane amount of AP.

    And for god's sake learn the meaning of sarcasm.

    2/10. Explaining fails with sarcasm only works on the intellectually challenged.

    If they conclude that there will be no more CP campaigns, then start to offload your "constructive criticism". Until then, try to wrap your mind around the concept of substituting direct diagnosis with exclusion of alternatives once it has become clear that the direct route failed.

    The only criticism I have for this, is why they waited two years for this kind of testing.

    And after the impressive demonstration of hypocrisy of the playerbase, what will a week of double XP do that hasn't been done already?

    Is so hard to get that the data they're going to collect won't be real?No fights means no data to collect only hundreds of players staying AFK doing nothing.

    People are addicted to this game i doubt very many people will actually take a 1 week break and leave themselves on afk since they will need a whole pther system to play another game.

    Afk usually doesnt yield a lot of AP anyways, people are better off participating.

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  • VoiDGhOs7
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    Don't want to offend anyone but to be honest I'm quite confused,can't understand if some of the people who replied are totally clueless or just fanboi or they're plain ignorant.

    I'll put in this way just be sure everyone can comprehend the actual problem with double AP event starting next week.

    Players are standing AFK at outposts getting between 6 and 7.2K AP ticks in the current state every 2 minutes.
    Next week its going to be possible to get between 12 and 14.4K AP ticks every 2 minutes by doing nothing.

    First of all,hundreds of players will pour in Cyrodiil because of the insane amount of AP which will lead to at least 200+ queues in every campaign.
    Second nobody will fight eachother since you get more AP by standing AFK than kill players.
    Third the CP are going to be disabled meaning the data they're going to collect will be falsed and won't reflect the true conditions of PvP,as far as I know when you want to test something you want the worst conditions you can expect in such environment.
    Fourth,if anyone of you is so naive to believe that the community has a moral towards avoiding using exploits/broken mechanics then you should leave this game.Everything and I mean EVERYTHING can be abused will be abused and I can assure you that,and PvP players is in the 1st line.
    Last but not least they will change the AP gain after the double AP event what a joke.

    I've been playing this game since beta and still playing every part of it starting from PvE gear grind and ending with PvP ap grind don't tell me to not complain because I can and I will,why is everyone jumping on the [Snip] "you mustn't complain train about ZOS wanting to do stress to address the Cyrodiil performance issues",I'm not against the stress test I'm totally for it and improve the performance which was been and still is total crap.But the way they're going to do it won't lead to any benefit because PvP community is fed up devs not giving a flying [Snip] about it for the past 3 years and they announce a double AP event because why not?

    Most likely I'll end up setting a 24/7 macro when the event starts just to be sure to get my GO before leaving it forever which I think is the final objective of ZOS towards Cyrodiil.

    I won't reply anymore cause people are to naive to get the point of what I mean.

    PS.also making people to get ranks that require months of playing in one week is playing stupid.

    And just for your info in the 7 days event it's going to be possible to start from 0 and get Grand Overlord.

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    Edited by [Deleted User] on February 21, 2017 6:29PM
  • Mic1007
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    Alcast wrote: »
    That sounds great :trollface:

    You just want to get a 120k DPS parse on Rakkhat, don't you? :tongue:
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  • Parafrost
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    CP in pvp is unbalanced. It wasn't in the game, but ever since they added it balance has changed from being forced to sustain to having high sustain with high dmg and a higher possibility to 1 shot. Skilled gameplay is partially making a come back with the removal of cp for a week in cyrodil. This should apply to all of pvp. CP shouldn't have been added in pvp of all things. The whole point of pvp is to fight in a semi balanced situation. Players should be punished for having low recovery and high dmg, not rewarded.
  • driosketch
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    I think you're overstating things. For one, no one will get ticks if everyone is AFK. You sill need some who are active in the fight defending or attacking. Second, be the change you want to see. "Every one's going to do it, so I will too," that's just a cop out.
    Edited by driosketch on February 21, 2017 4:04PM
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  • Parafrost
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    ChaosWotan wrote: »
    Think it is really good that ESO is spending time and energy on Cyrodiil. Now we only need new content in terms of strategic AvA. Just running in a circle taking keeps is so 2015. The potentional is already there to make Cyrodiil into a spectacular map for strategic gaming.

    vMoL can wait. Start whining and bring out the salt when it has gone two years with no significant changes to MoL.

    Yet theres people who had to resort to glitching to get their skins/destroyer title while the people who spent days, weeks or even months trying to get their skins/title.
  • Parafrost
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    People complain about the lag and demand ZOS fix it.

    ZOS decides to do a Live Server test to get at the root of the lag.

    People now complain about the test.

    This isn't testing lag lol. Lag will still be there, even more so with every player wanting to get AR49/50. Zergs will be at an all time high.
  • WalkingLegacy
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    Parafrost wrote: »
    People complain about the lag and demand ZOS fix it.

    ZOS decides to do a Live Server test to get at the root of the lag.

    People now complain about the test.

    This isn't testing lag lol. Lag will still be there, even more so with every player wanting to get AR49/50. Zergs will be at an all time high.

    I'm on of their biggest critiques and skeptics and even I'm happy they're at least trying something...
    Edited by WalkingLegacy on February 21, 2017 3:59PM
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  • VoiDGhOs7
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    driosketch wrote: »
    I think you're overstating things. For one, no one will get ticks if everyone is AFK. You sill need some who active in the fight defending or attacking. Second, be the change you want to see. "Every one's going to do it, so I will too," that's just a cop out.

    Ofc I'm going to do it.
    Why not?I've missed the Black Boot Mine the 1st days of new patch why I shouldn't abuse the system?Need to catch up on my mates,today I've already got 400k by staying AFK then why I should stop?

    10 people from 2 factions flipping the flag while I'll be staying AFK near with 400+ more people around it's going to a lot of fun.And to be honest I love that people started to hate on this thread I'm trying to tell what's wrong with the AP event and AP changes and everyone saying "youre afraid thatsome dude following a zerg will get Grand Overlord faster than you?" fu**in KEK.Keep going I love drama and tears thats the main reason I love this game.
    Edited by VoiDGhOs7 on February 21, 2017 4:06PM
  • VoiDGhOs7
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    You know, I actually don't get how crouching at an outpost doing nothing gets you AP.

    The mighty DTick 6K without and 7.2K with AP bonus just stay in range and profit.
    Edited by VoiDGhOs7 on February 21, 2017 4:04PM
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