Dawnbreaker

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO

fix the damn dawnbreaker, cant hit ** with it, good that magika has so many easy ultis and skills that can be used even when its 1fps and doesnt require targeting, ice comet, eye of flame, flame lash, magicka detonation and many others

Minalan

I'm a magicka sorc, I use it, and I can hit people with it just fine. Usually many people. What's the problem with it?

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO

got hit with haunting curse 8k and with daedric tomb for 7k 6k 6k all in less than a second and same player, why shuffle got nerfed by 5% cant dodge any hit now, roll dodge is good but not to daedric curse or endless furry, stamina is useless in pvp, magicka has so many shileds, reflect.... game is more unbalanced every update

Lord-Otto

So this IS a nerf sorc thread. Never seen those before... (>.>)
Daedric Tomb is expensive and takes time to place correctly. TTheres also a cooldown on the damage. If you roll or gapclose through the mines, you should only receive single damage.
I'd trade EotS happily for my magical Dawnbreaker. Instanuke with stun that goes through dodge and can be aimed at invisible targets and groups is awesome. And it's cheap, too. Just get a bit of distance to widen the cone and you should hit easily.

Durham

lol

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO

Lord-Otto wrote: »

So this IS a nerf sorc thread. Never seen those before... (>.>)
Daedric Tomb is expensive and takes time to place correctly. TTheres also a cooldown on the damage. If you roll or gapclose through the mines, you should only receive single damage.
I'd trade EotS happily for my magical Dawnbreaker. Instanuke with stun that goes through dodge and can be aimed at invisible targets and groups is awesome. And it's cheap, too. Just get a bit of distance to widen the cone and you should hit easily.

daedric tomb takes time to place it? can hit me only once? i was hiting the guy with my bow from distance next thing i know i was dead and it wasnt laggy

things that annoys me at DB is when u target a player that moves sideways or when it runs away from me i cant hit him coz of the latency this skills is pretty much useless in pvp

Jitterbug

Streak

Lord-Otto

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

So this IS a nerf sorc thread. Never seen those before... (>.>)
Daedric Tomb is expensive and takes time to place correctly. TTheres also a cooldown on the damage. If you roll or gapclose through the mines, you should only receive single damage.
I'd trade EotS happily for my magical Dawnbreaker. Instanuke with stun that goes through dodge and can be aimed at invisible targets and groups is awesome. And it's cheap, too. Just get a bit of distance to widen the cone and you should hit easily.

daedric tomb takes time to place it? can hit me only once? i was hiting the guy with my bow from distance next thing i know i was dead and it wasnt laggy

things that annoys me at DB is when u target a player that moves sideways or when it runs away from me i cant hit him coz of the latency this skills is pretty much useless in pvp

Yeah. You gotta close distance a bit, Daedric Tomb is not max range. Then you have to get a free line of sight, ground-cast abilities can be difficult to place on hills and suchlike. And even then, thise mines actually need to arm, despite skill saying they were instant.
With cooldown I mean that if you hit them all at once, with say a critrush through them, you'll only eat a single one damage-wise. Used to be you'd take them all, resulting in hefty damage. Was nerfed, as is everything with sorcs.

Lag can be obnoxious, no doubt. But mind the cone, DB can be missed. Exoerienced players know this and hug your side hard when they expect it coming. Ani-cancel it, snare your opponent with caltrops and move backwards while using it. Should do the trick.

Minalan

Daedric tomb arms instantly, you just need to drop it. It's the other (5 mine) morph that takes a couple of seconds to arm.

Lord-Otto

Minalan wrote: »

Daedric tomb arms instantly, you just need to drop it. It's the other (5 mine) morph that takes a couple of seconds to arm.

Not true. Drop 'em on an enemy. He can step to the side and won't get hit. The animation when they glow is the arm time.

psychotic13

Also a magicka sorc here who uses it, there's is no issue with this ability. Hence me and many other magicka users choosing It over magicka ults, it's just that damn good

Tryxus

psychotic13 wrote: »

Also a magicka sorc here who uses it, there's is no issue with this ability. Hence me and many other magicka users choosing It over magicka ults, it's just that damn good

^this

Dawnbreaker puts a very nice DoT, even though it's Physical, on your opponent which help keeping up pressure (and can proc Skoria). And the knockdown on it is just too good...

I've dropped Soul Harvest for that one

thankyourat

Tryxus wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Also a magicka sorc here who uses it, there's is no issue with this ability. Hence me and many other magicka users choosing It over magicka ults, it's just that damn good

^this

Dawnbreaker puts a very nice DoT, even though it's Physical, on your opponent which help keeping up pressure (and can proc Skoria). And the knockdown on it is just too good...

I've dropped Soul Harvest for that one

Why not just use soul tether it would hit harder and it also has a dot, a hot, a stun, it's a circle instead of a cone so your opponent can't side step it, and it also price skoria.

Lord-Otto

Gotta agree with the two gentlemen above, before destro ult came, I used the physical Dawnbreaker, too. It is THAT good.

Metemsycosis

I think dawn breaker is one of the few things I'd hesitate to complain about wrt balance

leepalmer95

So this is a rage thread by a stam player who died to a mag sorc.

I see.

Where's the mega facepalm meme.

CatchMeTrolling

I'd gladly have dawnbreaker as magicka again.

geonsocal

hands down since first stepped in pvp around aug '15 - number one hit on my death recap charts...

never used it myself (eventually will), what drives me nuts is it normally shows up twice...I forgot what the tool tip reads and why that is - but, very effective move...ults come and go - dawn breaker keeps right on chugging along...

leepalmer95

geonsocal wrote: »

hands down since first stepped in pvp around aug '15 - number one hit on my death recap charts...

never used it myself (eventually will), what drives me nuts is it normally shows up twice...I forgot what the tool tip reads and why that is - but, very effective move...ults come and go - dawn breaker keeps right on chugging along...

It has a dot, hence why it appears twice.

It's also the best ultimate for the majority of stamina builds and was the ONLY ultimate for them for a long time.

Lylith

psychotic13 wrote: »

Also a magicka sorc here who uses it, there's is no issue with this ability. Hence me and many other magicka users choosing It over magicka ults, it's just that damn good

it's ranged, hits fairly hard, can snare.

what's not to like?

(other than the fact the tooltip is misleading - the mines are NOT instant, just much faster arming than the other morph)

psychotic13

Lylith wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Also a magicka sorc here who uses it, there's is no issue with this ability. Hence me and many other magicka users choosing It over magicka ults, it's just that damn good

it's ranged, hits fairly hard, can snare.

what's not to like?

(other than the fact the tooltip is misleading - the mines are NOT instant, just much faster arming than the other morph)

I'm guessing you quoted the wrong person lol, I didn't speculate about mines

Lord-Otto

To clarify, I think this is how to take mine description.
Minefields says they arm after three secs, Tomb arms instantly. I think this refers to the delay when they start arming (the glow), not when they are ready.
So, you place Minefield, it takes three secs and then arms, which takes another split second. You throw Tomb and it immediately starts arming, so after just the split second they can blow up. Experienced players can exploit that to evade them.
It's a bit misleading, but if you take it that way, it's a pretty precise description.

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So this is a rage thread by a stam player who died to a mag sorc.

I see.

Where's the mega facepalm meme.

in my mind it sounds very funny when u say it

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO

im not raging abt damage im raging abt radius so i can hit someone