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ZOZ change the odds. Get rid of unnecessary shoulders and make the game more fun for all of us.
Atherol
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To: ZOZ
I know something about statistics and the odds in this game to get a shoulder of
the right type are just overwhelming (about 1% of players may get the right type of shoulder
after many tries and hours of play). Also, game updates have already rendered some of those
hard to get shoulders obsolete so it is a never ending race! I see no rational for it other
than to keep you hooked in the game spending time and money like a drug addict, which
is not ethical/fun at all!
ZOZ change the odds. Get rid of unnecessary shoulders and make the game more fun for all of us.
Sincerely,
Atherol
I know something about statistics and the odds in this game to get a shoulder of
the right type are just overwhelming (about 1% of players may get the right type of shoulder
after many tries and hours of play). Also, game updates have already rendered some of those
hard to get shoulders obsolete so it is a never ending race! I see no rational for it other
than to keep you hooked in the game spending time and money like a drug addict, which
is not ethical/fun at all!
ZOZ change the odds. Get rid of unnecessary shoulders and make the game more fun for all of us.
Sincerely,
Atherol
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Draconerus✭✭✭Not gonna lie, it is super annoying. Spending 100 keys and not getting the shoulder you need is ridiculous.Draconerus
Argonian - Templar Healer
Da Funk - Officer13 -
Oakmontowls_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Getting rid of monster sets is not the right solution in the slightest. Buffing the lesser used sets, removing training and preposterous, or splitting the pools even further would be better solutions.17 -
STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭To: ZOZ
I know something about statistics and the odds in this game to get a shoulder of
the right type are just overwhelming (about 1% of players may get the right type of shoulder
after many tries and hours of play). Also, game updates have already rendered some of those
hard to get shoulders obsolete so it is a never ending race! I see no rational for it other
than to keep you hooked in the game spending time and money like a drug addict, which
is not ethical/fun at all!
ZOZ change the odds. Get rid of unnecessary shoulders and make the game more fun for all of us.
Sincerely,
Atherol
one man's "unnecessary" is another man's "key to my non-meta or next-meta build."
if they improved the odds by cutting out all the shoudlers YOU wanted would you be happy?
hey ZoS please remove from monster keyd drops the traits divines and infused and impen.
See - odds just got better for the other five/six traits.
case closed now on to getting sharpened precise and powered off the maelstrom tables.
Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
YFMV Your Fun May Vary.
First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
"The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."1 -
KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭To: ZOZ
I know something about statistics and the odds in this game to get a shoulder of
the right type are just overwhelming (about 1% of players may get the right type of shoulder
after many tries and hours of play). Also, game updates have already rendered some of those
hard to get shoulders obsolete so it is a never ending race! I see no rational for it other
than to keep you hooked in the game spending time and money like a drug addict, which
is not ethical/fun at all!
ZOZ change the odds. Get rid of unnecessary shoulders and make the game more fun for all of us.
Sincerely,
Atherol
one man's "unnecessary" is another man's "key to my non-meta or next-meta build."
if they improved the odds by cutting out all the shoudlers YOU wanted would you be happy?
hey ZoS please remove from monster keyd drops the traits divines and infused and impen.
See - odds just got better for the other five/six traits.
case closed now on to getting sharpened precise and powered off the maelstrom tables.
No one's "non-meta" or "next-meta" build includes prosperous or training...If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].17 -
Oompuh✭✭✭✭✭Zenimax Online Ztudios /postEdited by Oompuh on February 19, 2017 2:10AMXbox NA - Oompa
Khajiit DK Tank
Founder of Major Aegis
Main Tank of Dissonant Crusade Uprising Savages6 -
STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭KochDerDamonen wrote: »To: ZOZ
I know something about statistics and the odds in this game to get a shoulder of
the right type are just overwhelming (about 1% of players may get the right type of shoulder
after many tries and hours of play). Also, game updates have already rendered some of those
hard to get shoulders obsolete so it is a never ending race! I see no rational for it other
than to keep you hooked in the game spending time and money like a drug addict, which
is not ethical/fun at all!
ZOZ change the odds. Get rid of unnecessary shoulders and make the game more fun for all of us.
Sincerely,
Atherol
one man's "unnecessary" is another man's "key to my non-meta or next-meta build."
if they improved the odds by cutting out all the shoudlers YOU wanted would you be happy?
hey ZoS please remove from monster keyd drops the traits divines and infused and impen.
See - odds just got better for the other five/six traits.
case closed now on to getting sharpened precise and powered off the maelstrom tables.
No one's "non-meta" or "next-meta" build includes prosperous or training...
Actually as i recall there was some recent discussion or posting about someone in prep for homestead outfitting like full prosperous blue or purple gear where they had tons of mats and going dungeoning runs and other such content - hell maybe farm mudcrabs and watched the gold grow and grow.
And i know i have seen training used for skill leveling after morphs and such.
they aren't on anyone's best dps option for sure, but i agree with the other idea - dont remove traits - balance them.
But see, my idea of balance is more akin to "everything is best sometimes and nothing is best all the time"
So lets suggest maybe a different approach -
take the three pledge chests.
untie them to the dungeon lists.
tie them to oh lets say "roles"
One chest is the chest of unholy retribution (DPS) - the drops must contain DPS related traits and each set that can drop must be able to raise dps - either damage, penetration max stam/mag or proc damage etc. medium and light will make up 80% of the drops and have their weight determined by the types of bonuses 3/4 of the time.
One chest is the chest of divine protection (Healing/tank) - the drops sets must contain defense and heal related traits and each set must provide some defense or some healing or max health or proc health etc. 80% of the drops will be in heavy.
one chest is the chest of divine fortune - can be any in any with any.
So you can increase your chance of getting drops that are applicable to and optimized towards your objective even if they are not necessarily the exact item you wanted.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
YFMV Your Fun May Vary.
First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
"The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."2 -
Tapio75✭✭✭✭✭
✭Leys just make crafting to be the only source for viable gear and the litle better to drop only in Cyrodil so we have a good economy drive and also a risk vs gain situation for those minorly better gear.>>PC-EU Mostly PVE. Played since BETA<<1 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I got it...how 'bout we just make the chests much smaller so we can fit more of them in the undaunted pavilion...if we could have 4 sets per chest (like the chest in the middle with only 4) that would be perfect...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place3 -
LtCrunch✭✭✭✭✭
✭To: ZOZ
I know something about statistics and the odds in this game to get a shoulder of
the right type are just overwhelming (about 1% of players may get the right type of shoulder
after many tries and hours of play). Also, game updates have already rendered some of those
hard to get shoulders obsolete so it is a never ending race! I see no rational for it other
than to keep you hooked in the game spending time and money like a drug addict, which
is not ethical/fun at all!
ZOZ change the odds. Get rid of unnecessary shoulders and make the game more fun for all of us.
Sincerely,
Atherol
That's kind of the nature of the beast.
NerdSauce GamingLaughs-At-Wounds - Sap tanking since 03/30/14ßrandalf - Light armor tanking since 03/03/15Brandalf Beer-Belly - Tanking drunk since 12/30/163 -
Eleusian✭✭✭It's on par with the rediculous weapon grind. Grind , grind followed by new grinds. Thanks for annoying time waistersPS4 NA1 -
CrazySonoran✭✭✭Typical MMO mindset even ZOS has fallen into. Make the players do something 500 times before they get enough or something they want or get an item they really want for their build. Some say it helps keep players engaged and wanting to play more, I disagree, it makes the fanbois want to play longer and more, but most of the average players just give up and do something else. My characters work just fine with crafted and landscape/delve drop equipment, why should I spend 5 bazillion hours of my limited game time trying to get some silly shoulder piece that will increase my dps overall by a miniscule percentage.
Landscape set weapons are another item that seems to be overly scarce. I've spent many weeks scouring bosses trying to get a decent pair of 1-handers for my tank and have yet to get anything but a Prosperous Dagger, not even decent weapons from other sets have dropped for me, but I sure get a lot of the useless set from that zone in armor pieces from the bosses.1 -
StackonClown✭✭✭✭✭I can only wish - Mwahahahaha - this will NE-NE-NE-NEVER happen!!
Centerpiece of Zeni business model... 'grind forever or player leaves game'2 -
Nallenil✭✭✭Got 4 Keys yesterday, got 3 molag kena shoulders. Now I have 11 molag kena shoulders...1
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coplannb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Yeah, grinding is the excuse for lack of content. wouldnt be so bad if there was no PvP, but being at a disadvantage mainly because of gear sucks and is hardly competetive environment.
well Camelot Unchained will hopefully get this right. If so bye bye ESO...max level: mDK, stamBlade, stamSorc, magPlar, mDen, stamDen, magBlade, stamCro
ESO+
# of mules: 4 (FULL)
maxed bank: FULL -_-
Stop the grind! Get rid of stupid events and daily-quest gallore. Get rid of "have a chance of 1 in a million to get a piece of 1 in 30 to get a stupid motif or pet... wtf..."
And at this point just remove all classes and have everyone choose their set of skills. then balance accordingly to skills always used vs. skills never used.1 -
Valorin✭✭✭Uhm. Zos! Please make the chances better! *shakes fist*
Also, by the way, let us override the looks! Add vanity slots or let us recraft our gear to look different and make all the motifs we farmed useful again!
(topic-mutiny at work...)1 -
Atherol✭✭To ZOZ,
I'm still looking for an Ilambris shoulder. I'm doing it with two toons back to
back. At this point I don't care if they are prosperous and/or of any armor
type. But, after many runs (over 40) at three to four gold keys each run
I still haven't got one such shoulder!
PLEASE FIX THE SYSTEM AND BETTER THE ODDS FOR US PLAYERS AS
THIS WAY IT IS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING AND I CANNOT SEE ANY
RATIONAL FOR IT.
Sincerely,
Atherol0 -
Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Just lose trainning and prosperous and you'd fix most of thos argument that's two types per weight out of circulation2 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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This, not saying that prosperous or training should be removed from traits but it don't belong on endgame content.KochDerDamonen wrote: »To: ZOZ
I know something about statistics and the odds in this game to get a shoulder of
the right type are just overwhelming (about 1% of players may get the right type of shoulder
after many tries and hours of play). Also, game updates have already rendered some of those
hard to get shoulders obsolete so it is a never ending race! I see no rational for it other
than to keep you hooked in the game spending time and money like a drug addict, which
is not ethical/fun at all!
ZOZ change the odds. Get rid of unnecessary shoulders and make the game more fun for all of us.
Sincerely,
Atherol
one man's "unnecessary" is another man's "key to my non-meta or next-meta build."
if they improved the odds by cutting out all the shoudlers YOU wanted would you be happy?
hey ZoS please remove from monster keyd drops the traits divines and infused and impen.
See - odds just got better for the other five/six traits.
case closed now on to getting sharpened precise and powered off the maelstrom tables.
No one's "non-meta" or "next-meta" build includes prosperous or training...
Another option would be tokens who let you buy or craft sets pieces after an number of runs.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
Atherol✭✭@zaria
Good ideas like yours are being proposed in this thread. I just hope ZOZ will listen
to its committed base of players before they opt for another game.
Best,
Atherol
This, not saying that prosperous or training should be removed from traits but it don't belong on endgame content.
No one's "non-meta" or "next-meta" build includes prosperous or training...
Another option would be tokens who let you buy or craft sets pieces after an number of runs.
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Draconerus✭✭✭RNG in this game is literally the WORST out of any other game I have played. They should remove training and prosperous for sure from the pool for end game.Draconerus
Argonian - Templar Healer
Da Funk - Officer1 -
Atherol✭✭@Draconerus
Yep. I wholly agree with you as I have also played many games and never
encountered such RNG* in any game I had played before.
*RND= Random Number Generator
Best,
AtherolDraconerus wrote: »RNG in this game is literally the WORST out of any other game I have played. They should remove training and prosperous for sure from the pool for end game.
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Atherol✭✭Hi,
I keep on getting unwanted stuff in heavy armour, but no Ilambris shoulders yet...today, I got
2 sellixtrix pauldrons 1 Grothdarr's and one Selene's in well-fitted, reinforced and sturdy(2).
What I need those shoulders for EZO devs? Can you tell me?
Stop this madness and fix the RNG!
Sincerely,
Atherol0 -
Gandrhulf_Harbard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There is a level of RNG that CAN add to excitement and replayability.
ESO's RNG is way, way, way beyond that - it fuels only frustration and discontentment.
Time to tweak it - significantly.
All The BestThose memories come back to haunt me, they haunt me like a curse.
Is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worse.1 -
Atherol✭✭Hi,
Yes, I fully agree.
Thanks,
AtherolGandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »There is a level of RNG that CAN add to excitement and replayability.
ESO's RNG is way, way, way beyond that - it fuels only frustration and discontentment.
Time to tweak it - significantly.
All The Best
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