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Furniture Crafting Materials - Why???

cyberjanet
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Can someone explain why we need different materials to craft furniture? I can understand the alchemy, provisioning and even enchanting materials. But why do we need heartwood? Or bast? Or regulus? Why can't we craft mahogany tables? Or cotton curtains? Or iron sconces? We can't even get the materials we need from refining what we gather, it has to be a RNG drop and currently I'm getting more nirncrux than heartwood.

With an exchange rate of one crown = 25 gold, it is actually cheaper to buy furniture from the crown store than to try and and craft it or buy it ingame.
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  • CREEP
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    cyberjanet wrote: »
    With an exchange rate of one crown = 25 gold, it is actually cheaper to buy furniture from the crown store than to try and and craft it or buy it ingame.

    You answered your own question.
  • Turelus
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    Remember that the value of these items will fall in time as demand goes down and supply increases.

    This is the same with all items on a new release in an MMO, there will be those with more money and desire who will buy up items first, then as time goes on it balances at the games supply vs demand level.
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  • kyle.wilson
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    CREEP wrote: »
    cyberjanet wrote: »
    With an exchange rate of one crown = 25 gold, it is actually cheaper to buy furniture from the crown store than to try and and craft it or buy it ingame.

    You answered your own question.

    How do you come up with an exchange rate? 90% of the consumables in the crown store are far worse than crafted.
    But, then again the only things I buy from the crown store are mounts and costumes.
    5,500 crowns is $40. So if 1crown is 25g
    Then $1 is 3,437.5g.
    If only I could transfer the gold back to cash. With the recent update I'm easily making 50k gold per hour of gameplay.
  • DRXHarbinger
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    ^ remember that dro m'artha motif at launch...100k a page. Now worthless. Same will happen with this stuff.
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  • notimetocare
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    cyberjanet wrote: »
    Can someone explain why we need different materials to craft furniture? I can understand the alchemy, provisioning and even enchanting materials. But why do we need heartwood? Or bast? Or regulus? Why can't we craft mahogany tables? Or cotton curtains? Or iron sconces? We can't even get the materials we need from refining what we gather, it has to be a RNG drop and currently I'm getting more nirncrux than heartwood.

    With an exchange rate of one crown = 25 gold, it is actually cheaper to buy furniture from the crown store than to try and and craft it or buy it ingame.

    In part because the new material drops regardless of crafting level. If you are master clothier, you cannot get cotton.

    Second is, look at the price of the new material. Imagine that tenfold for cotton becase of afformentioned inability for most people to farm it.
  • kyle.wilson
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    cyberjanet wrote: »
    Can someone explain why we need different materials to craft furniture? I can understand the alchemy, provisioning and even enchanting materials. But why do we need heartwood? Or bast? Or regulus? Why can't we craft mahogany tables? Or cotton curtains? Or iron sconces? We can't even get the materials we need from refining what we gather, it has to be a RNG drop and currently I'm getting more nirncrux than heartwood.

    With an exchange rate of one crown = 25 gold, it is actually cheaper to buy furniture from the crown store than to try and and craft it or buy it ingame.

    In part because the new material drops regardless of crafting level. If you are master clothier, you cannot get cotton.

    Second is, look at the price of the new material. Imagine that tenfold for cotton becase of afformentioned inability for most people to farm it.

    Recently I vender all my < not top tier mats. They weren't worth the trader slots. But, since homestead I keep getting more of these mats back in crates. Its rather annoying.

  • ScooberSteve
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    Yes its ridiculous how greedy ZOS is sometimes. You have to farm for an hour to make the basic of the most basic chairs but can buy it in the crown store for an exorbitant price.
    Edited by ScooberSteve on February 17, 2017 9:54AM
  • Danikat
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    We need new materials so that no one could have a stockpile of everything they need to craft furniture on day 1.

    This (combined with having to find blueprints) serves several purposes:
    • It stops furniture being widely or cheaply available early on when demand is highest. This pushes the people who want it ASAP towards the crown store, generating more profit for ZOS.
    • It gives an opportunity for traders to make massive profits selling blueprints and materials or furniture.
    • It gives everyone an incentive to get out in the world doing achievements, killing bosses, gathering materials, finding chests etc. getting more use from existing content at a time when we haven't had anything new for 6 months and have just been told we won't get anything new for another 4 months (and everyone will have to pay for it).
    • It creates the illusion that housing gives you a lot to do. There's not much you can do with a fully decorated house - fight your target skeleton, craft, stand (or sit!) around with friends...but if you have to spend months obtaining decorations, gradually building it up you get a lot more 'use' from what's actually a pretty basic system.

    There may also be others I've forgotten.

    Whether that's good or bad is debatable, and I suspect it varies for each person. I'm frustrated that getting the things I want isn't straight-forward (especially because I'm well aware it's intended to push me to spend crowns) but on the other hand it's exciting when I do find something useful and I'm already finding this system is encouraging me to consider a wider range of objects. For example I didn't put any decorative food in my house on the PTS because it seemed like a waste of money to spend crowns on it (I know the crowns are free on the PTS but I was thinking about what I'd do with my 'real' house). But I've got more decorative wax than any of the other materials and a few designs for food, so I probably will use some.
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  • Runs
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    Probably so that hoarders didn't have all the advantages.

    This would also explain why paintings from treasure maps haven't been fixed, but you can find them in open world chests. My guess is when the newness settles down that will be fixed. And there will be a point these new furniture items are almost considered junk and everyone will have thousands in their crafting bags.
    Edited by Runs on February 17, 2017 9:57AM
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    I like having to work for it. My house is coming along slowly but steadily. Like the old Johnny Cash song, I'm building her one piece at a time.

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