Super Self-Healing, Super Dodge, and Invincibility

timidobserver

Most of the stuff mentioned in the OP is not cheating. It's mostly balance issues. There are a ton of legit* ways to reduce incoming damage. The wrath passive opens the possibility of dealing damage at the same time.

*I am defining legit as stuff that ZOS made available on purpose.

Edit: I haven't seen the 0% health thing myself. It's either cheating or a UI bug

NewBlacksmurf

Well I followed some folks to Cyrodil last night on Xbox one NA and in the level 49 and below campaign, two guys seemed to almost wipe our group of 6.

While that was impressive, they were not seen as invincible.

I intentionally don't PvP OR duel but theres another thread on a similar concern.
A few videos on this forum as well and a few days ago on Xbox One NA there's a video I re shared of a player killing one of the VMSA bosses in

He had on SCT
Vid- https://gameclipscontent-d2024.xboxlive.com/0009000009dbaa6d-2020fe61-4c98-4434-9e3f-daad61dc6dc8/GameClip-Original.MP4?sv=2014-02-14&sr=b&si=DefaultAccess&sig=bstfUpFBxJ8ShycBlOG+0Xwpy/CCm3XaMHHGiaHXq6o=&__gda__=1487282117_80f3d4d1b3fa4179c1d21fae296e41a9


Not sure how to explain it but it's on console so it seems their dmg is legit but a bit of an eyebrow raiser for sure. And ppl say bows aren't viable.....seems they are if used correctly.

OldSmeller

timidobserver wrote: »

Most of the stuff mentioned in the OP is not cheating. It's mostly balance issues. There are a ton of legit* ways to reduce incoming damage. The wrath passive opens the possibility of dealing damage at the same time.

*I am defining legit as stuff that ZOS made available on purpose.

Edit: I haven't seen the 0% health thing myself. It's either cheating or a UI bug

By your logic the god mode stuff is legit because ZOS made it available on purpose.

cjthibs

OldSmeller wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Most of the stuff mentioned in the OP is not cheating. It's mostly balance issues. There are a ton of legit* ways to reduce incoming damage. The wrath passive opens the possibility of dealing damage at the same time.

*I am defining legit as stuff that ZOS made available on purpose.

Edit: I haven't seen the 0% health thing myself. It's either cheating or a UI bug

By your logic the god mode stuff is legit because ZOS made it available on purpose.

Are you sure that's what he said?

timidobserver

OldSmeller wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Most of the stuff mentioned in the OP is not cheating. It's mostly balance issues. There are a ton of legit* ways to reduce incoming damage. The wrath passive opens the possibility of dealing damage at the same time.

*I am defining legit as stuff that ZOS made available on purpose.

Edit: I haven't seen the 0% health thing myself. It's either cheating or a UI bug

By your logic the god mode stuff is legit because ZOS made it available on purpose.

Incorrect. I am saying there is a distinction between cheating and using poorly balanced gear/skill combinations.

For example, having the bark buff or multiple mundus stones without wearing the required set is not legit. It's not intended and is obvious cheating. On the other hand, stacking major vitality with Malubeth last patch was a legitimate gear combination.

Spacemonkey

Honestly the moment you go PvP, you are going to run up against serious min-maxers (thats how i call em anyway :P) ;
I'm mostly unkillable in PvE (not exactly hard); only the new WB since 1T pose a threat if I'm alone or in a 2 man team, OR if I'm not paying attention. But my build is 0 optimized. My damage is pretty low, leading me to use wrecking blow a LOT when solo-ing. (I mean if the build is crappy, its crappy, WB is still the thing that gives the most bang for your buck vs lil mobs)

I get wrecked in a shameful way , especially in Imperial City. Since my dmg is low, its 1000 times more apparent here. And My build (if it can be called a build) revolves heavily around regen healing and minor constant defensive buffs. They cut through that like butter, and my healing is halved because IC.. -_- so I sneak around a lot and avoid most fights. Even with that though, cz my gear isnt maxed its even worse (battle leveled);

So yup, totally normal. Potions remain the best heal in PvP, and if you want to experience the whole differently you will have to invest into a good PvP build. I gave up on my hilarious Beta hybrid tank/healer with hybrid stats being competitive AGES ago, but its still somewhat viable in PvE and I like it,

it has its funny invulnerable moments where I look at other people with their hp bars constantly dropping and skyrocketing back up, while mine just doesnt move.

OldSmeller

cjthibs wrote: »

OldSmeller wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Most of the stuff mentioned in the OP is not cheating. It's mostly balance issues. There are a ton of legit* ways to reduce incoming damage. The wrath passive opens the possibility of dealing damage at the same time.

*I am defining legit as stuff that ZOS made available on purpose.

Edit: I haven't seen the 0% health thing myself. It's either cheating or a UI bug

By your logic the god mode stuff is legit because ZOS made it available on purpose.

Are you sure that's what he said?

There is no official post or mention indicating that use of the one tamriel system to gain unfair advantages over players is considered an exploit or in any way illegitimate. Hence it's intended until otherwise indicated.
So I will repeat, by your logic anything intended by ZOS is legit.

Up too and including the use of One Tamriel Scaling to 1 shot a boss mob or a player in pvp.


Edit: let me clarify.

I am not saying I like the fact the system can be easily exploited, I am saying it's a reality and something that we can't really do anything about. The part of the games code that allows for this to happen has been here since alpha testing phases. It's probably not going to go away.

So by making threads like this you are only hurting yourself by alerting more people to the fact this game breaking bug exists and is almost impossible to detect.

timidobserver

OldSmeller wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

OldSmeller wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Most of the stuff mentioned in the OP is not cheating. It's mostly balance issues. There are a ton of legit* ways to reduce incoming damage. The wrath passive opens the possibility of dealing damage at the same time.

*I am defining legit as stuff that ZOS made available on purpose.

Edit: I haven't seen the 0% health thing myself. It's either cheating or a UI bug

By your logic the god mode stuff is legit because ZOS made it available on purpose.

Are you sure that's what he said?

There is no official post or mention indicating that use of the one tamriel system to gain unfair advantages over players is considered an exploit or in any way illegitimate. Hence it's intended until otherwise indicated.
So I will repeat, by your logic anything intended by ZOS is legit.

Up too and including the use of One Tamriel Scaling to 1 shot a boss mob or a player in pvp.


Edit: let me clarify.

I am not saying I like the fact the system can be easily exploited, I am saying it's a reality and something that we can't really do anything about. The part of the games code that allows for this to happen has been here since alpha testing phases. It's probably not going to go away.

So by making threads like this you are only hurting yourself by alerting more people to the fact this game breaking bug exists and is almost impossible to detect.

I am saying something can be legit and poorly balanced at the same time. Anything beyond that is what you are saying not me.

Recremen

Invincibility is often a display bug, as happens to most large groups at some point or another. This is where your healthbar gets visually stuck at some percentage, even though in fact you are fully healed. Mine got stuck at 13% last night for a good 20 minutes before getting stuck back up at 34%, for instance. All these poor dears were just wailing on me with their executes and I was like "oh, honey, I know, it sucks, just keep trying and at some point it will work". It eventually worked.

SnubbS

The first one is a Tank build, and pretty normal. Number two is a complete myth, and I'll pay anyone $500 paypal to prove otherwise with a video of someone dodging every attack for 45 seconds straight, no hits. Number three is a health desync, and it happens quite often.

tplink3r1

No mention of Super Damage? Biased topic ignored.

danno8

Be careful reporting people with the 0% HP thing. I have had it happen to me and it is really strange when it does.

Only ever once, but I certainly have no cheats or hacks or junk, lol. I die far too much for that.

MakoFore

i think in the past u had every build have a weakness. now with the interesting combinations of armour sets that noone could foresee- and with so much CP, proc sets - that give auto damage and makeup for low weapon dmg, potions and poisons that can compensate for other gaps - players can make amazing builds that have literally no weakness. high damage, high tankiness and high sustain.
u didn't mention what skill he/she used when their health went back up- id say it sounds like ur opponent popped a potion .

Johngo0036

KingYogi415 wrote: »

These unkillable dk's are chugging vitality pots, the only counter is 60% drain poisons.

Broken AF but it's getting nerfed pretty hard with homestead.

Anyone with this invincable bug should be reported to sony as a hacker. Most likely a rare case of a jailbroken ps4 and sony bricks those guys pretty quickly.

Cheers!

there is little difference to these tanks that deal major damage post homestead.. be prepared to still see these guys running around... Broken as f@ck but what can we do....

Stam sorcs with their endless resources and high damage is also there.... dark dealing every 2 seconds and go from zero resources to full on health and stam almost instantly...

ItsMeToo

I was hitting this DK that was afk, so were others, and he wouldn't die. We did this for over 5 mins. Explain that one away.

Don't say he wasn't afk. He was.

Brutusmax1mus

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

Probably CE, this is why PvP sucks.

Why pc sucks

cjthibs

Ran into two of these last night.

One was a duo using Guard. I'm guessing one had an insane health pool and was shielding his glass cannon buddy. Took 5 or 6 of us to take him down.

The other was a DK with just under 50k health.
He didn't do much damage...but it took a hell of a lot of people to take him down.

The guard duo though...got to admit that was a nasty fight. I'm not sure if I want to consider it broken, but it did seem pretty damn OP.

Gedalya

Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Select Start; try that.

Sureshawt

Recremen wrote: »

Invincibility is often a display bug, as happens to most large groups at some point or another. This is where your healthbar gets visually stuck at some percentage, even though in fact you are fully healed. Mine got stuck at 13% last night for a good 20 minutes before getting stuck back up at 34%, for instance. All these poor dears were just wailing on me with their executes and I was like "oh, honey, I know, it sucks, just keep trying and at some point it will work". It eventually worked.

This^

I go the bug once and went to a pack of mobs to die because I thought I didn't actually have my full health. The mobs took me to 0% yet I was still alive and remained so quite some time after. Pretty easy to test for yourself if you get the bug.

Game has plenty of issues but it is still lots of fun once you stop thinking of it as a competitive or skillful PvP game. Enjoy it for what it is 'Gimmicks and Giggles'